Space Forum / Space Policy / January 2004

Follow the money.  The supposed plan calls for increasing
NASA's budget from $15.5 billion to $20 billion over a five
year period.  The only actual new program mentioned is the
new crew exploration vehicle (CEV), which will probably take

Strong signal from the suface!  Looks good so far...
Doug

There's a very interesting and odd-looking linear feature in the large
crater in the DIMES images from Opportunity.
     Brett

The media and this group should stop calling the new NASA directive a 'moon
plan'.  It seems that the belief is that Bush is cancelling everything NASA
does and moving all the money into a manned moon base.  This isn't the case
at all.

    Dateline - Washington     The NASA chief held a press conference
today to talk about the good news and the bad news surrounding the Mars
rover, as well as to clear up any public misunderstandings about what has
happened.  The good news is that the rover is now communicating with ...

This is my new Idea for spaceship of future Today!!!!
Why Not use SUBMARINE as space ship? Isnot SUBMARINE already in hostile
water enviroment? Not all that much difference between preasure being
inside or outside! and All They have nearly endless Nuclear Power Now and

You won't find this information because it's bullshit. But you go ahead and
search for it. When you can't get it, ask yourself WHY. Or do like all the
other good citizen sheep do and make excuses for the lack of proof. And be
sure to precede each fact with "They probably used..." or ...

One of the minor nits I have about the President's space initiative is that
it perpetuate's NASA's modern tendency to have boring names for proposed
space vehicles. Crewed Exploration Vehicle somehow does not sing as well
as--say--Mercury, or Gemini, or Apollo. So, as a public ...

Reading your posts concerning President Bush's proposed return to the
Moon and on to Mars I am surprised by the degree of cynicism and
negativity a lot of you have shown towards it and NASA.  Whatever
happened to the American can-do attitude and Americans loving a

http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/2004-01-13-rise-robots_x.htm
headline
osted 1/13/2004 8:23 AM
Famed Iowa space expert opposes Bush space plan

Now that the Spirit rover isn't working what scientific data can the
lander itself send?  In particular, does the lander provide Martian
atmospheric data?

Is there any science in Bush's space proposal?
1) Robotic exploration of the moon.
    Long overdue.
2) Maned Martian flyby.

From nasawatch.com:
"To pay for the new effort -- which would require a new generation of
spacecraft but use Europe's Ariane rockets and Russia's Soyuz capsules
in the interim -- NASA's space shuttle fleet would be retired as soon

In recent years a few Americans have started to worry about Europe falling far
behind the United States. I am so glad that Europe has finally got around to
discovering water on Mars. ;-)
A discovery which America appears to have made over 30 years ago.

Today here in England on the noon ITN news was a report on Bush's
space program for the Moon and Mars, the ITN 'science correspondent'
popped on after the report and said that as the "Martian atmosphere is
so thin, the Suns UV rays go straight to the surface, and the most