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aero_engineer - 21 Nov 2003 01:24 GMT

Those who are [He who is] being harassed on s.s.s. might want to
consider reporting the harassment here:

http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm

Even if the harasser ["it"] lives in another country, perhaps "it" can
be pursued via the cooperation of the FBI and that country's
equivalent.

Check your country for similar avenues.

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Chuck Stewart - 21 Nov 2003 05:27 GMT

> Those who are [He who is] being harassed on s.s.s. might want to
> consider reporting the harassment here:

> http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm

Hmmm....

1) The FBI has repeatedly affirmed that the FBI mandate to combat actual
internet harassment has _no_ relation whatsover to common netkook
activities such as publicly outing oneself as being abysmally stupid.

2) It was a latch. Get over it.

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Alan Erskine - 21 Nov 2003 10:42 GMT

> > Those who are [He who is] being harassed on s.s.s. might want to
> > consider reporting the harassment here:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> internet harassment has _no_ relation whatsover to common netkook
> activities such as publicly outing oneself as being abysmally stupid.

Oh, but it wasn't "common netkook" stuff: Netkooks don't refer to people as
Nazi's or paedophiles, they don't go through the white pages looking for
your address or follow someone to many, many groups. That is harrassment
and also defamation on a major scale if they can't prove their claims.

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Alan Erskine
alanterskine(at)hotmail.com

Iraq, America's new Vietnam

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Chuck Stewart - 21 Nov 2003 12:07 GMT

>> > Those who are [He who is] being harassed on s.s.s. might want to
>> > consider reporting the harassment here:

>> > http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm

>> Hmmm....

>> 1) The FBI has repeatedly affirmed that the FBI mandate to combat actual
>> internet harassment has _no_ relation whatsover to common netkook
>> activities such as publicly outing oneself as being abysmally stupid.

> Oh, but it wasn't "common netkook" stuff:

?
Was "aero_engineer" you?
I was referring to the only listing concerning "harassment" that I saw on
that page... which was a US FBI listing.

> Netkooks don't refer to people as Nazi's

Errr... Yes.
Netkooks do _just_ that.
Early and often.
I know this from experience... :)

> or paedophiles,

Errr... Yes.
Netkooks do _just_ that.
Early and often.
I know this from experience... :))

> they don't go through the white pages looking for your address

Errr... Yes.
Netkooks do _just_ that.
Early and often.
I know this from experience... :)

> or follow someone to many, many groups.

Errr... Yes.
Netkooks do _just_ that.
Early and often.
I know this from experience... :)

> That is harrassment

It's harassment, but has the crap that I've seen directed at Alan Erskine,
so far, fallen under the FBI mandate ?

Laws broken? In some jurisdictions, yes.

Way sufficient to get accounts yanked and lawsuits underway? Yes, if the
culprit can be located.

But FBI level? Did you ask them?

> and also defamation on a major scale if they can't prove their claims.

But have you located the appropriate venue to file suit?

> --
> Alan Erskine
> alanterskine(at)hotmail.com

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Anonymous Sender - 24 Nov 2003 00:10 GMT

>Oh, but it wasn't "common netkook" stuff: Netkooks don't refer to people as
>Nazi's or paedophiles, they don't go through the white pages looking for
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Alan Erskine
>alanterskine(at)hotmail.com

Alan, don't over-react. First of all, I suggest you dump your Hotmail
account. No matter what precautions you take, you will get a hundred spam
messages a day on it, much of it "off color." That kind of harrasment you
can avoid just by switch to a POP mail account with your ISP or even an
online e-mail service like Excite or Yahoo.

Also, let's face it, the newsgroups have always been an anarchaic place
where speech is still free. I don't know how long it will stay free. There
are government forces that would close all news servers down in the blink
of an eyelid in the name of anti-terrorism or anti-pornography; only the
Bill of Rights, on shakey grounds itself, stands in the way. But, along
with free speech comes the unwanted, but necessarily tolerated harrasment.
It can be no other way. If you throttle what you think is harassment, then
valid free speech will go down the drain as well, because who is going to
draw the line? I used to post using my NTTP server just like many of you
do, but it only takes one "I am holier than thou" reader to send an
unwarranted complaint to my ISP and ruin my day. The standard response of
an ISP provider to his loyal, paying customer, whether or not a complaint
is justified, is a threat to terminate service. There is no reading the
facts, a committee of just peers or whatever. Just a threat for that is the
easy and cheap solution to keep posters in line. And in line means the
lowest common denominator of politeness to exclude debate for reason of
fear. That is why some of you have gone to online newsgroup servers which
are semi-anonymous and why I have gone all the way to "Nomen Nescio" to
shield myself from those who would get satisfaction in causing me
unwarranted harm or as you say, harassment. Then the question would remain,
who harasses whom?

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