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Space Forum / Shuttle / November 2003Shuttle Ambassador?
A Google search didn't seem to provide the answer for this question, so I'll ask it here. I was looking through a set of photos that I took on a 1991 trip to Florida, and in the photos taken near the visitors center at the Cape space complex, there is a photo of a shuttle orbiter on display, and it has "Ambassador" stenciled on the side under the cockpit windows. Was there a mockup of the orbiter by this name? -- Scott M. Kozel Highway and Transportation History Websites Virginia/Maryland/Washington, D.C. http://www.roadstothefuture.com Philadelphia and Delaware Valley http://www.pennways.com >I was looking through a set of photos that I took on a 1991 trip to >Florida, and in the photos taken near the visitors center at the Cape >space complex, there is a photo of a shuttle orbiter on display, and it >has "Ambassador" stenciled on the side under the cockpit windows. Its a mock up walk thru display, not bad and I understand they added some flight flown components. I remember touching its tires which had been to space. Nice display:) "Ambassador" is a mockup, constructed by a commercial firm. For a long time, its solids were flown hardware, but they were actually changed out for parts that were needed. The replacements may also be former flown hardware that was discarded, post "Challenger". > "Ambassador" is a mockup, constructed by a commercial firm. For a long > time, its solids were flown hardware, but they were actually changed out > for parts that were needed. The replacements may also be former flown > hardware that was discarded, post "Challenger". Thanks for the responses! > "Ambassador" is a mockup, constructed by a commercial firm. For a long > time, its solids were flown hardware, but they were actually changed out > for parts that were needed. The replacements may also be former flown > hardware that was discarded, post "Challenger". You sure about that? You may be thinking of the fustrums that came from another mock-up I believe. (The one in Alabama if my memory serves.) >> "Ambassador" is a mockup, constructed by a commercial firm. For a >> long time, its solids were flown hardware, but they were actually [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > from another mock-up I believe. (The one in Alabama if my memory > serves.) In december 1990, the first Orbiter mock up is display at KSC Visitor. It s called "Ambassador" and was builted by Guard Lee and Co, and shipped by truck. This mock up was sheduled remaind at KSC one year. 1992, its was sheduled Ambassador leave the KSC on junary 19 and shipped in Europ. The KSC Visitor awarded other mock up for the center on permanent display. But in february, Ambassador remains another year in display at center. Junary 1993, Ambassador was dismanteled and shipped in Coréa. The Apopka Florida compagny Guard Lee was built another mock up in 1994. The name "Explorer" was choised by Florida scool. Any view of Amabssador at KSC taken by a french friend. http://www.capcomespace.net/dossiers/espace_US/shuttle/annexes/3_expo_shuttl e_ambassador.htm -- Cordialement, Didier Capdevila Capcom Espace, le site de l' espace www.capcomespace.net mailto:capcom@capcomespace.net > In december 1990, the first Orbiter mock up is display at KSC Visitor. It s > called "Ambassador" and was builted by Guard Lee and Co, and shipped by [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > http://www.capcomespace.net/dossiers/espace_US/shuttle/annexes/3_expo_shuttle_am bassador.htm Their first photo looks almost exactly like my photo, from nearly the same vantage point, with the Mercury-Redstone and Mercury-Atlas in the background. -- Scott M. Kozel Highway and Transportation History Websites Virginia/Maryland/Washington, D.C. http://www.roadstothefuture.com Philadelphia and Delaware Valley http://www.pennways.com > > In december 1990, the first Orbiter mock up is display at KSC Visitor. It s > > called "Ambassador" and was builted by Guard Lee and Co, and shipped by [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > same vantage point, with the Mercury-Redstone and Mercury-Atlas in the > background. If Ambassador wasn't renamed to Explorer, then where exactly is Ambassador right now, and why the need to build another mockup from scratch? -Mike > > "Ambassador" is a mockup, constructed by a commercial firm. For a long > > time, its solids were flown hardware, but they were actually changed out [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You sure about that? You may be thinking of the fustrums that came from > another mock-up I believe. (The one in Alabama if my memory serves.) I think that they are indeed confusing the Pathfinder mockup in Alabama with the formerly named mockup "Ambassador", now "Explorer". I remember reading the old magazine "Odyssey" about the mockup's construction. I was a bit suprised to read later on in the second addition to Jenkin's Space Shuttle, that it was renamed. -Mike |
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