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Space Forum / Shuttle / November 2003It's official: Enterprise jumps the shark
Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living Vulcans) off ten minutes into it. Will not be going back. Now have another evening free each week, woohoo!  SignatureTerrell Miller millerto@bellsouth.net "In the early days as often as not the (rocket) exploded on or near the launch pad; that seldom happens any longer." -Columbia Accident Investigation Board report, vol.1 p.19 On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:20:06 -0400, in a place far, far away, "Terrell Miller" <millerto@bellsouth.net> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: >Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living >Vulcans) off ten minutes into it. Will not be going back. > >Now have another evening free each week, woohoo! I'll bet that they were pleased with the audience response when T'Pal went into Pon Farr a few episodes ago, and decided to do another episode with an emotional sexy Vulcan. Signaturesimberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296 (Jackson Hole) interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..." Swap the first . and @ and throw out the ".trash" to email me. Here's my email address for autospammers: postmaster@fbi.gov > I'll bet that they were pleased with the audience response when T'Pal > went into Pon Farr a few episodes ago, and decided to do another > episode with an emotional sexy Vulcan. Well, yeah, I guess it was sexy *FOR A KLINGON*. Stuff her into a stasis tube- which has already been established- and spread the joy. Or build her a bubble boy chamber. Hell, find some crewmen jacking off and assign them the Red Dwarf detail- painting the stuff on the outside. SignatureIf you have had problems with Illinois Student Assistance Commission (ISAC), please contact shredder at bellsouth dot net. There may be a class-action lawsuit in the works. > Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living > Vulcans) off ten minutes into it. Will not be going back. > > Now have another evening free each week, woohoo! Ahh, t'were just as well . . . I need to devote more time to my guitars anyway and Wednesdays are one of the few nights NOT already given to soccer, baseball, plays or other stuff with the kids (one of the few advantages for living in the buckle of the Bible belt :-/ ) SignatureHerb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D. Reformed Aerospace Engineer "Heisenberg might have been here." ~ Anonymous In sci.space.policy Terrell Miller <millerto@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living > Vulcans) off ten minutes into it. Will not be going back. > > Now have another evening free each week, woohoo! I haven't seen the episode in question, but it's been pretty obvious it was going to happen, ever since the gratuitous-vulcan-oiling in episode 2 or so. Signaturehttp://inquisitor.i.am/ | mailto:inquisitor@i.am | Ian Stirling. ---------------------------+-------------------------+-------------------------- <Squawk> Pieces of eight! <Squawk> Pieces of eight! <Squawk> Pieces of eight! <Squawk> Pieces of eight! <Squawk> Pieces of eight! <Squawk> Pieces of nine! <SYSTEM HALTED: parroty error!> > In sci.space.policy Terrell Miller <millerto@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > was going to happen, ever since the gratuitous-vulcan-oiling in episode > 2 or so. Don't let him decide for you. The episode was actually pretty good, and overall has been getting a very positive response. I certainly enjoyed it. T'Pol is not emotional for no reason at all. -Mike In sci.space.policy Mike Dicenso <mdicenso@seds.lpl.arizona.edu> wrote: >> In sci.space.policy Terrell Miller <millerto@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> > Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> was going to happen, ever since the gratuitous-vulcan-oiling in episode >> 2 or so. > Don't let him decide for you. The episode was actually pretty good, and > overall has been getting a very positive response. I certainly enjoyed it. > T'Pol is not emotional for no reason at all. I have to admit, I'd prefer to see (generally) any new episode of any series of ST rather than Enterprise, but, there is little else on. Obsci.space.*: Routing extremely high power signal behind consoles is a bad idea. Signaturehttp://inquisitor.i.am/ | mailto:inquisitor@i.am | Ian Stirling. ---------------------------+-------------------------+-------------------------- Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off. - Random > In sci.space.policy Mike Dicenso <mdicenso@seds.lpl.arizona.edu> wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I have to admit, I'd prefer to see (generally) any new episode of any > series of ST rather than Enterprise, but, there is little else on. *cough* *cough* You'd rather watch VOYAGER???!!!! -Mike >> I have to admit, I'd prefer to see (generally) any new episode of any >> series of ST rather than Enterprise, but, there is little else on. >*cough* *cough* You'd rather watch VOYAGER???!!!! I didn't agree with that point of view in previous seasons, but now, after the episode in question, I would no longer be strongly critical of it. I had hopes for Enterprise to be the third best ST - better than Voyager, more exciting than Deep Space Nine - but while the most recent episode is not without its moments, it is all too clearly showing the series *is* running out of gas. I was able to accept the theme music as it was originally, but now they have made it awful as well. I'm afraid that Enterprise has become pretty much what those who trashed it at the beginning felt it to be then. But the Original Series had pretty awful episodes too... it is remembered, though, for the good ones. So Enterprise is *not* beyond redemption. Just a few good scripts, treated with respect... John Savard http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html <snip> > But the Original Series had pretty awful episodes too... it is > remembered, though, for the good ones. So Enterprise is *not* beyond > redemption. Just a few good scripts, treated with respect... Until they're willing to fire the writers they have now and get some good ones in there to do the job, I hold no hope that this series will make it past this year, thus ending the legacy of Star Trek. JazzMan Signature********************************************************** Please reply to jsavage"at"airmail.net. Curse those darned bulk e-mailers! ********************************************************** "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry ********************************************************** > So Enterprise is *not* beyond > redemption. Just a few good scripts, treated with respect... > > John Savard > http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html Yeah, but that's something like saying that that space flight would be more popular if only there were more public interest. The chances of good scripts, treated with respect, in this outfit are low. Shermanlee In sci.space.policy Johnny1A <shermanlee1@hotmail.com> wrote: >> So Enterprise is *not* beyond >> redemption. Just a few good scripts, treated with respect... > Yeah, but that's something like saying that that space flight would be > more popular if only there were more public interest. The chances of > good scripts, treated with respect, in this outfit are low. I wonder if a few "guest writer" episodes might be possible. David Weber, David Drake, S.M. Stirling, Stephen Baxter, Anne Mccafrey, ... It would be nice to know for example the incident that convinced starfleet never to allow automatic computer aiming of weapons. Signaturehttp://inquisitor.i.am/ | mailto:inquisitor@i.am | Ian Stirling. ---------------------------+-------------------------+-------------------------- "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornfull tone, "It means Just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less." -- Lewis Carrol > In sci.space.policy Johnny1A <shermanlee1@hotmail.com> wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I wonder if a few "guest writer" episodes might be possible. > David Weber, David Drake, S.M. Stirling, Stephen Baxter, Anne Mccafrey, ... What we need is someone to sneak into B & B's bedrooms in a yellow rad suit, snap earphones on them while they sleep, and crank up some death metal while chanting "I am Darth Vader from the Planet Vulcan..." SignatureIf you have had problems with Illinois Student Assistance Commission (ISAC), please contact shredder at bellsouth dot net. There may be a class-action lawsuit in the works. >Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living >Vulcans) off ten minutes into it. Will not be going back. > >Now have another evening free each week, woohoo! I felt like I was watching a lame first person shooter. > Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living > Vulcans) off ten minutes into it. Will not be going back. I think you all were just not in the spirit of it. I rather enjoyed it. When it comes around on reruns, try watching it again, but this time drink a bit of alcohol first and chant "Brains... Brains!" every time the Vulcan zombies reach for our intrepid heroes. My only disappointment was that T'Pol didn't kill the NPC... I was sure she was going to, and after all, that's what NPCs are for. It was infinitely better than the one where Reed fell *on a cometary nucleus* and broke his ankle! *That* one just about ruined the whole series for me. I mean, if your special FX budget doesn't allow for realistic low-G movement, fine, I can forgive that. But don't make the whole frickin' plot revolve around a gaffe so glaring any fifth-grader could see through it! Now *that* one was just plain silly. ,------------------------------------------------------------------. | Joseph J. Strout Check out the Mac Web Directory: | | joe@strout.net http://www.macwebdir.com | `------------------------------------------------------------------' > > Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living > > Vulcans) off ten minutes into it. Will not be going back. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > drink a bit of alcohol first and chant "Brains... Brains!" every time > the Vulcan zombies reach for our intrepid heroes. I missed it completely, both on initial showing and weekend repeat. I decided not to tape it, and to wait to see it in rerun *first*. :-) > My only disappointment was that T'Pol didn't kill the NPC... I was sure > she was going to, and after all, that's what NPCs are for. Now my curiosity is piqued. The only "NPC" I'm aware of is a D&D term. > It was infinitely better than the one where Reed fell *on a cometary > nucleus* and broke his ankle! *That* one just about ruined the whole > series for me. I mean, if your special FX budget doesn't allow for > realistic low-G movement, fine, I can forgive that. But don't make the > whole frickin' plot revolve around a gaffe so glaring any fifth-grader > could see through it! Now *that* one was just plain silly. I thought that substance they were drilling for was neutron-star dense, giving high gravity at the surface of the comet near the drilling site. By the way, someone mentioned that he thought the changes to the opening theme made it worse. I disagree entirely. It is *much* improved from the original. I think the remix with percussion makes it sound more like an anthem than a folk song now. > Now my curiosity is piqued. The only "NPC" I'm aware of is a D&D term. The Target Redshirts are NPCs, since they won't be coming back. Like the one character in "Galaxy Quest", who doesn't even have a name because he got offed. > I think the remix with percussion makes it sound more like an > anthem than a folk song now. My reaction is just the opposite. It sounds far too "folksy" now. What was needed was something to make it darker, in the mood with the season. The rest of the music is. On the lighter side, it's nice to see that Enterprise isn't *entirely* PC- after all, the quite female Cutler is still referred to as "Crew*man* Cutler". Too bad her latest roll is The Pitts. SignatureIf you have had problems with Illinois Student Assistance Commission (ISAC), please contact shredder at bellsouth dot net. There may be a class-action lawsuit in the works. >My reaction is just the opposite. It sounds far too "folksy" now. What was >needed was something to make it darker, in the mood with the season. Is that a reference to the story lines, or the moribund future of the series? Pat > > Now my curiosity is piqued. The only "NPC" I'm aware of is a D&D term. > > The Target Redshirts are NPCs, since they won't be coming back. Like the one > character in "Galaxy Quest", who doesn't even have a name because he got > offed. The MACO had a name; it was Hawkins. :-) -Mike > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >giving high gravity at the surface of the comet near the drilling site. > Unfortunately the gravity well on a piece such a substance would be so severe that standing above it your head would be almost weightless; whereas your feet would weigh several hundred pounds; I don't think that this is going to help blood flow at all...and the next question becomes how exactly do you get anywhere near the substance without getting compacted by its high gravity gradient? You get within a foot or two of it, and you are going to end up being a part of it...a very small part of it. In fact, given the low density of a cometary nucleus, the whole nucleus should have been collapsed by it. Unless, of course there was...a...REVERSE TACHYON FIELD involved! Pat On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:46:23 -0500, in a place far, far away, Pat Flannery <flanner@daktel.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: >Unfortunately the gravity well on a piece such a substance would be so >severe that standing above it your head would be almost weightless; [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >should have been collapsed by it. >Unless, of course there was...a...REVERSE TACHYON FIELD involved! Or reversing the polarity on the warp drive, or something. There's nothing that can't be solved in Star Trek by reversing the polarity on *something*. Though last time I tried it in my car, it fried my radio and electronic ignition... Signaturesimberg.interglobal.org * 310 372-7963 (CA) 307 739-1296 (Jackson Hole) interglobal space lines * 307 733-1715 (Fax) http://www.interglobal.org "Extraordinary launch vehicles require extraordinary markets..." Swap the first . and @ and throw out the ".trash" to email me. Here's my email address for autospammers: postmaster@fbi.gov >Or reversing the polarity on the warp drive, or something. There's >nothing that can't be solved in Star Trek by reversing the polarity on >*something*. Though last time I tried it in my car, it fried my radio >and electronic ignition... > > That's because you neglected to reverse the hydrogen flow through the Bussard collectors on the carburetor first! Jeeze, any first year warpfield/autorepair student knows that one! :-) Pat Reversing the polarity of the neutron flow is a trademark of Dr Who. SignatureIf you have had problems with Illinois Student Assistance Commission (ISAC), please contact shredder at bellsouth dot net. There may be a class-action lawsuit in the works. >Reversing the polarity of the neutron flow is a trademark of Dr Who. > > Was I the only one waiting for one of the Zathras brothers to pull a Sonic Screwdriver out of his temporal toolkit in "Babylon V"? "No...no...never use one of these...no good... not work...." (Shadow warrior flickers into view behind him with CO2 fire extinguisher) Strange insect-like voice: "EX-TERM-I-NATE! EX-TERM-I-NATE!" (Scene dissolves in white vapor). Pat > > My only disappointment was that T'Pol didn't kill the NPC... I was sure > > she was going to, and after all, that's what NPCs are for. > > Now my curiosity is piqued. The only "NPC" I'm aware of is a D&D term. Right, "non-player characters" -- the ones who are always first to die. In classic Star Trek, every away team destined for anything dangerous always contained at least one NPC, played by some actor you never saw before and would never see again, because they're the one to get axed. This episode contained one of the faceless marines (a great supply of NPCs in an otherwise small crew), who was arguing with T'Pol just as she was losing her self-control... I was sure she was going to shove his gonads down his gullet, as they say, by the time the episode was over. ,------------------------------------------------------------------. | Joseph J. Strout Check out the Mac Web Directory: | | joe@strout.net http://www.macwebdir.com | `------------------------------------------------------------------' > > > My only disappointment was that T'Pol didn't kill the NPC... I was sure > > > she was going to, and after all, that's what NPCs are for. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > was losing her self-control... I was sure she was going to shove his > gonads down his gullet, as they say, by the time the episode was over. Hmm, actually I believe there was one red shirt on ST:TOS that DID come back. Hard to say if it was as the same character. :-) > ,------------------------------------------------------------------. > | Joseph J. Strout Check out the Mac Web Directory: | > | joe@strout.net http://www.macwebdir.com | > `------------------------------------------------------------------' >Hmm, actually I believe there was one red shirt on ST:TOS that DID come >back. Hard to say if it was as the same character. :-) > > In the Negro/cube incident the white woman was the one that got turned into a cube (actually it looked more like a dodecahedron) and crushed....the black man got rehydrated and lived! This must make him a member of one of the most exclusive groups in the galaxy, a red shirt who went down to a planetary surface with James T. Kirk...and returned alive! Not only that, but the episode taught an IMPORTANT MORAL LESSON; When people are dehydrated into dodecahedrons, you can't tell the difference between BLACK MEN and WHITE WOMEN! So we ARE ALL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME IF YOU TAKE THE WATER OUT! This explains the police's use of fire hoses in riot control during the voting rights riots of the 1960's...there were trying to make sure that none of the blacks were going to try and fool them into thinking they were white people by turning themselves into dehydrated dodecahedrons! Pat > >Hmm, actually I believe there was one red shirt on ST:TOS that DID come > >back. Hard to say if it was as the same character. :-) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Pat ROTFLMAO!!! JazzMan Signature********************************************************** Please reply to jsavage"at"airmail.net. Curse those darned bulk e-mailers! ********************************************************** "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry ********************************************************** > In the Negro/cube incident the white woman was the one that got turned > into a cube (actually it looked more like a dodecahedron) and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > none of the blacks were going to try and fool them into thinking they > were white people by turning themselves into dehydrated dodecahedrons! time to take another pill, Pat SignatureTerrell Miller millerto@bellsouth.net "In the early days as often as not the (rocket) exploded on or near the launch pad; that seldom happens any longer." -Columbia Accident Investigation Board report, vol.1 p.19 > >Hmm, actually I believe there was one red shirt on ST:TOS that DID come > >back. Hard to say if it was as the same character. :-) [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Pat and Pat, what were you smoking in the '60's? :-) >> Hmm, actually I believe there was one red shirt on ST:TOS that DID come >> back. Hard to say if it was as the same character. :-) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Pat I believe in that episode it was a cube. http://www.thelogbook.com/log/toslog2.html By Any Other Name original broadcast: Feb 23, 1968 teleplay by D.C. Fontana and Jerome Bixby story by Jerome Bixby directed by Marc Daniels music by Fred Steiner Stardate 4657.5: The Enterprise responds to a distress call, finding only a trap set by a small group of aliens from the Andromeda galaxy who are assessing the potential of the Federation's home galaxy for colonization. The aliens successfully take over the ship, reducing all aboard except for Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scotty to dehydrated cubes so the ship's supply of food and oxygen can be used by the hijackers and Kirk's command crew for the staggering 300-year return to Andromeda. The aliens, having assumed human form, also gain attributes such as emotions, which may be just the weakness Kirk and the others need to attack to regain control of the Enterprise. Guest Cast: Warren Stevens (Rojan), Barbara Bouchet (Kelinda), Majel Barrett (Christine Chapel), Stewart Moss (Hanar), Robert Fortier (Tomar), Lezlie Dalton (Drea), Carl Byrd (Lt. Shea), Julie Cobb (Yeoman) It is green..... > The aliens successfully take over the ship, reducing all aboard > except for Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scotty to dehydrated cubes so the > ship's supply of food and oxygen can be used by the hijackers and > Kirk's command crew for the staggering 300-year return to Andromeda. This is the kind of shallow Star Trek research that I've come to expect from somebody that doesn't know Khan's middle name, or the combination to Kirk's safe; and further, has made the fatal mistake of moving out of the basement of his parent's house! Any REAL Star Trek fan knows that those damned Andromedans turned decent white and black people into polyhedral plant food blocks; not cubes! Why, here we have the extra-galactic slimeball leader talking to Kirk while holding two of the Enterprise's crew to his heartless chest: http://www.gateworld.net/startrek/tos/s2/graphics/222.jpg While here: http://www.70disco.com/images/kelvan3.jpg ...we have another of the filthy Andromedans talking to Kirk, while concealing two more crew members -on- her heartless chest...as if daring Kirk to reach out and crush them....wait, those may NOT be crew members! In fact, they may not even be polyhedra! This is going to take more careful study! Pat > > While here: http://www.70disco.com/images/kelvan3.jpg > ...we have another of the filthy Andromedans talking to Kirk, OH MY GOD! That's NOT Kirk! It's Mr. A-Hole, leader of the stinking Andromedans! How could I have thought Kirk would EVER wear a pink jumpsuit! I must not have been looking at that part of the picture carefully enough, having somehow become distracted! The way that she was thrusting her chest out, I assumed she was in the presence of James T. Kirk, as alien women were prone to do that at such times...the Shame! The Shame! Pat (using Agonizer on self) > Pat (using Agonizer on self) Stop that, you're enjoying yourself too much. > > >>Pat (using Agonizer on self) >> > >Stop that, you're enjoying yourself too much. I want a "Captain's Woman"! And a goatee! No, not a sheepee- a goatee! Pat The Empire >> The aliens successfully take over the ship, reducing all aboard except >> for Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scotty to dehydrated cubes so the ship's [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Pat Whoops. I could have sworn that when mr. alien zapped Uhura on the bridge she went cubist. only one other correction. Although we were in Oklahoma, we never had a basement so I lived in the garage. I still vote for the original crew as best cast. > only one other correction. Although we were in Oklahoma, we never had a > basement so I lived in the garage. I still vote for the original crew as > best cast. It says something about us Oklahomans that, despite being in the middle of tornado alley, very few post-WWII houses have basements... (Remembering spring evenings spent huddled under the dining room table.) >> only one other correction. Although we were in Oklahoma, we never had a >> basement so I lived in the garage. I still vote for the original crew [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > tornado alley, very few post-WWII houses have basements... > (Remembering spring evenings spent huddled under the dining room table.) I once spent my birthday at a skating rink hugging the concret wall as a tornado roared overhead. Ah those were the days. I think the no basement thing was mainly a cost issue. in the late 60's early 70's one of our neighbors built a bomb/tornado shelter. The rest of use watched and debated who would knock him over the head with a shovel to guarentee a seat for us. > in the late 60's early 70's one of our > neighbors built a bomb/tornado shelter. The rest of use watched and > debated who would knock him over the head with a shovel to guarentee a > seat for us. Which goes to show you that including firearms and ammunition in your bomb shelter supplies might be a good thing. :-( Jeff SignatureRemove "no" and "spam" from email address to reply. If it says "This is not spam!", it's surely a lie. >Which goes to show you that including firearms and ammunition in your >bomb shelter supplies might be a good thing. :-( > >Jeff With the terrorism threat they are becomingf popular again >It says something about us Oklahomans that, despite being in the middle of >tornado alley, very few post-WWII houses have basements... >(Remembering spring evenings spent huddled under the dining room table.) Here in Jamestown, North Dakota the post-war housing boom led to something very strange; people had their basements built first, and roofed over...they lived in these until the house proper could be built on top of the basement; I used to have some photos showing what my neighborhood (all new-build houses) looked like circa 1950; it would have done credit to the The Siegfried Line, with what looked like row upon row of concrete bunkers set in the ground. Very, very strange. The end result though were houses with quite well equipped basements; you might have a bathroom in your basement- but how about a kitchen and bedroom? Our house was apparently not built this way, unless living conditions were far more spartan than my parents were letting on, as our basement didn't have _any_ toilet facilities in it.... Pat > > >It says something about us Oklahomans that, despite being in the middle of > >tornado alley, very few post-WWII houses have basements... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Pat My grandparents did the same thing out in Washington state at the same time. Twice, actually. Jon Acheson >> ...there were trying to make sure that >> none of the blacks were going to try and fool them into thinking they >> were white people by turning themselves into dehydrated dodecahedrons! >I believe in that episode it was a cube. Actually, the shape was a cuboctahedron, if you watch the actual episode ("By Any Other Name"). But a well-known book about the history of Star Trek incorrectly referred to it as a dodecahedron. John Savard http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html >Right, "non-player characters" -- the ones who are always first to die. >In classic Star Trek, every away team destined for anything dangerous >always contained at least one NPC, played by some actor you never saw >before and would never see again, because they're the one to get axed. I think it was Richard Pryor (although I can't find this exact quote on the web) who described this phenomena in Star Trek TOS; it went something like this- "So they beam down to the planet, and there is a brother with them you have never seen before, and you realize for the first time that's there's more than one of us on the ship....and you know full well what is going to happen to him.... ZAP!... and then Spock turns to Kirk, and says: 'Captain, the alien has turned the nigger into a cube.' " Pat > >Right, "non-player characters" -- the ones who are always first to die. > >In classic Star Trek, every away team destined for anything dangerous [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Pat Don't forget, in this episode "By Any Other Name", the brother survived. The Asian woman's potting foam block was crumbled into tiny bits. >> > My only disappointment was that T'Pol didn't kill the NPC... I was sure >> > she was going to, and after all, that's what NPCs are for. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >always contained at least one NPC, played by some actor you never saw >before and would never see again, because they're the one to get axed. In Classic Trek, these were known as 'red shirts' (they were almost invariably wearing the red shirt that denoted they were part of Security). The term NPC as applied to Trek is of recent origin. D. SignatureThe STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to om@io.com, as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion. >>>> My only disappointment was that T'Pol didn't kill the NPC... I was >>>> sure she was going to, and after all, that's what NPCs are for. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > invariably wearing the red shirt that denoted they were part of > Security). The term NPC as applied to Trek is of recent origin. I coined the term ARSENIO HALL for those guys - Another Red-Shirted Extra - Nobody Important, Obviously - Has A Limited Lifespan. -- Gordon Davie Edinburgh, Scotland "Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God" > > Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living > > Vulcans) off ten minutes into it. Will not be going back. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > drink a bit of alcohol first and chant "Brains... Brains!" every time > the Vulcan zombies reach for our intrepid heroes. And indeed it's hardly the first time in all of Star Trek, or even just Enterprise, where we've see nome behavior-altering phenomenon that preferentally affected, or didn't affect Vulcans. One might remember the episode where everyone but T'Pol became obsesed with specific trivial matters.... Actually, it was refreshing to find that those Vulcan crews subcummed to something as mundane as a form of heavy-metal poisioning, rather than something more exotic about the expanse. Both ships had no opprotunity to report back that they were using a substance unknown to them (and unknowingly toxic *to* themselves), to protect them from phenomena that *were* exotic. > My only disappointment was that T'Pol didn't kill the NPC... I was sure > she was going to, and after all, that's what NPCs are for. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > whole frickin' plot revolve around a gaffe so glaring any fifth-grader > could see through it! Now *that* one was just plain silly. At least Enterprise technology doesn't (yet) allow for 'runaway holodeck' stories, thankfully.... SignatureYou know what to remove, to reply.... > At least Enterprise technology doesn't (yet) allow for 'runaway > holodeck' stories, thankfully.... Although in the first season a crew member and an alien found themselves attracted to each other and went into the alien's holodeck for a little fun. The crew member got pregnant from the act, shown on camera. (The crew member later displayed a bare nipple on screen.) SignatureDavid M. Palmer dmpalmer@email.com (formerly @clark.net, @ematic.com) > > At least Enterprise technology doesn't (yet) allow for 'runaway > > holodeck' stories, thankfully.... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > for a little fun. The crew member got pregnant from the act, shown on > camera. (The crew member later displayed a bare nipple on screen.) ...not as racy as it sounds, since the crew member was male, and the act, IIRC, essentially involved holding hands. ,------------------------------------------------------------------. | Joseph J. Strout Check out the Mac Web Directory: | | joe@strout.net http://www.macwebdir.com | `------------------------------------------------------------------' << It was infinitely better than the one where Reed fell *on a cometary nucleus* and broke his ankle! >> IIRC, it was Travis that had the mishap on the comet. And I believe he only sprained his ankle. Bill Harris Sci-Fi Quote of the month: "We will never forgive and we will never forget." - Stilgar, "Dune" >Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living >Vulcans) off ten minutes into it. Will not be going back. > >Now have another evening free each week, woohoo! Too bad..... It was pretty good along with the SFX. >Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living >Vulcans) off ten minutes into it. Will not be going back. That's a curious reaction. "Impulse" (aka NOTLV) was one of the better "Star Trek: Enterprise" episodes, I thought. If you thought *that* was bad, I'm surprised you've hung with Enterprise *this* long. "Enterprise" has done much, much worse. Brian > "Enterprise" has done much, much worse. At least the trellium-D didn't cause the Vulcans to change species- merely extremely horny *and* impotent. SignatureIf you have had problems with Illinois Student Assistance Commission (ISAC), please contact shredder at bellsouth dot net. There may be a class-action lawsuit in the works. > >Missed last week's ep, turned yesterday's (title: Night Of The Living > >Vulcans) off ten minutes into it. Will not be going back. > > That's a curious reaction. "Impulse" (aka NOTLV) was one of the better > "Star Trek: Enterprise" episodes, I thought. If you thought *that* was > bad, I'm surprised you've hung with Enterprise *this* long. The overall response to this episode so far has been very positive. My only really serious gripe with the episode was that it should have been aired the Wednesday before Halloween. > "Enterprise" has done much, much worse. I agree, Star Trek from TOS onward have had much, much worse. -Mike |
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