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Brian Gaff - 16 Jun 2009 22:25 GMT
Is it actually worth complaining to Googlegroups about this  porn advert
spam here?
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Alan Erskine - 17 Jun 2009 04:15 GMT
> Is it actually worth complaining to Googlegroups about this  porn advert
> spam here?

No.  Complaints go to the ISP - I didn't do so this time, but it's easy to
find.  If you have Outlook Express, the process is as follows:

1    Right click on the post.
2    Click on "Properties".
3    Click on "Details" tab; highlight all the information and then copy it.
4    Close the "Properties" tab.
5    Click on the post and then on "Forward".
6    Above the body of the email, paste all the details.
7    Find the IP (something like "NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.43.144.244" - yours,
by the way) and copy it.
8    Go to an "IP Look-up" site like WHOIS Lookup
(http://domains.whois.com/domain.php?action=whois) and paste the IP in the
appropriate box.  Fill out the rest of the form as needed and then click
"Search".  This will bring up the ISP for the spammer.
9    Put the ISP's "Abuse" email address (something like abuse@bigpond.com)
in the "To:" box at the top of the email and then put "Spam" into the
Subject: box.
10    Send the email - if everyone did this (and it's simpler to do than
type out here!), it would eliminate spam from all groups - ISP's won't
ignore hundreds of complaints about one of their customers.
nmp - 17 Jun 2009 14:25 GMT
> ISP's won't ignore hundreds of complaints about one of their customers.

That strikes me as hopelessly optimistic - if that isn't a contradiction
in terms :)

Too many ISPs are actually "in" on the spamming game or they just really
don't care. Much spam is also sent through hijacked Windows PCs of their
customers and ISPs refuse responsibility. Google which acts as a provider
of Usenet groups really could do something about newsgroup spam but they
can't be bothered to either. Your complaints will be ignored by these
hostile parties.
Alan Erskine - 18 Jun 2009 11:43 GMT
>> ISP's won't ignore hundreds of complaints about one of their customers.
>
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> can't be bothered to either. Your complaints will be ignored by these
> hostile parties.

Surprisingly few are ignored; especially if you threaten to inform the
FTC/Better Business Bureau or similar if the ISP doesn't do something.
nmp - 20 Jun 2009 10:45 GMT
>>> ISP's won't ignore hundreds of complaints about one of their
>>> customers.
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> Surprisingly few are ignored; especially if you threaten to inform the
> FTC/Better Business Bureau or similar if the ISP doesn't do something.

You remain a hopeless optimist. Which is an endearing quality, just not a
very practical one ;)

And why do you insist on letting Google of the hook?
Alan Erskine - 20 Jun 2009 18:06 GMT
> And why do you insist on letting Google of the hook?

I don't.  It's just a matter of being practicle; a quality you seem to think
I lack.  If the ISP is contacted, something is usually done to stop the
spam; if Google is contacted with a complaint, they either don't reply or
simply say they are only the storehouse of posts.  Also the spammer would
simply be able to open a new account at Google (usually using a new Yahoo or
Hotmail email address - takes about five minutes to set up); bypassing the
complaint to Google altogether.

So, to save time, I would simply contact the ISP - for instance, if you
posted anything objectionable via Google, I would simply find your IP
(82.95.242.16), go to an IP search engine and find your Internet Service
Provider in order to make a complaint.  By complaining to abuse@xsfall.nl,
it gets right to the source of the problem.  I'm sure, however, that you
wouldn't post anything objectionable, so that course of action won't be
necessary.
 
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