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Did Phoenix take any video?

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Author - 03 Oct 2008 20:44 GMT
Just curious.  Did the Phoenix take any video on the Mars?  I googled
a little, but didn't find any.

If it was not designed to take any videos, why?
Roland - 03 Oct 2008 20:56 GMT
Author schreef:
> Just curious.  Did the Phoenix take any video on the Mars?  I googled
> a little, but didn't find any.
>
> If it was not designed to take any videos, why?

Rocks don't move around a lot.
Scott M. Kozel - 05 Oct 2008 02:29 GMT
> Author schreef:
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> Rocks don't move around a lot.

Yabbut the Martians do ....
Leopold Stotch - 04 Oct 2008 00:56 GMT
> Just curious.  Did the Phoenix take any video on the Mars?  I googled
> a little, but didn't find any.
>
> If it was not designed to take any videos, why?

Closest thing to video I have seen is a fairly fast sequence of still
shots of a dust devil that, when shown in sequence made a decent movie
of the dust devil moving across the Martian surface.  The two MER rovers
have made similar shots.  I would estimate the frame rate at something
on the order of 1 frame/sec.

Aside from the occasional dust devil there is precious little on the
surface of Mars moving fast enough to warrant video. Probably next down
the list of things to watch would be the motion of celestial bodies, and
these move so slow to be more than adequately covered by time lapse
still photography.

The other thing about video is the bandwidth requirements.  Current
generation RF uplinks would be very hard pressed to keep up with the
bandwidth requirements of decent resolution/frame rate video. Best you
could hope for would to take a bit of video, store it and uplink it
non-real time.  Would take up lots of memory and uplink time which would
reduce the amount of bandwidth available for science data.

Future generation landers/rovers/probes may have access to optical data
uplinks that would have much more generous available bandwidths.
John Doe - 04 Oct 2008 02:53 GMT
> Aside from the occasional dust devil there is precious little on the
> surface of Mars moving fast enough to warrant video.

I *think* that this thread was begun because they THINK they have
pictures of what may be snowflakes. Having video would have been great
to watch them float/fall down.
Brian Gaff - 04 Oct 2008 20:40 GMT
I suppose it would depend on how fast and how many sequential shots were
taken at any time.

After all video is just sequential stills.
Brian

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>> Aside from the occasional dust devil there is precious little on the
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> pictures of what may be snowflakes. Having video would have been great
> to watch them float/fall down.
Leopold Stotch - 05 Oct 2008 17:27 GMT
>> Aside from the occasional dust devil there is precious little on the
>> surface of Mars moving fast enough to warrant video.
>
> I *think* that this thread was begun because they THINK they have
> pictures of what may be snowflakes. Having video would have been great
> to watch them float/fall down.

Esse, what's with the attitude?

Actually, you *think* wrong.  That's not why this thread was started.
Also, they don't *think* they have pictures of snow falling.  A laser
particle detector found what they *think* to be snow flakes two miles
above the lander, but these snow flakes are apparently sublimating
before getting near the ground.  This will probably change as we get
further into the Martian winter and the lander may actually image snowfall.
Brian Gaff - 06 Oct 2008 09:47 GMT
The problem is, before we get to the time where snowfall reaches the ground,
the keep alive and do something useful power available may well be too low
to be of any use.

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>>> Aside from the occasional dust devil there is precious little on the
>>> surface of Mars moving fast enough to warrant video.
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> getting near the ground.  This will probably change as we get further into
> the Martian winter and the lander may actually image snowfall.
Leopold Stotch - 07 Oct 2008 03:04 GMT
> The problem is, before we get to the time where snowfall reaches the ground,
> the keep alive and do something useful power available may well be too low
> to be of any use.
>
> Brian

Yes indeed, it will be a race.  One night the available power goes to
zero, the electronics box goes below -70ºC and the wirebonds break on
the ICs and that's all she wrote.  I really do hope we get to see some
substantial snow accumulation before it dies.
OM - 07 Oct 2008 05:08 GMT
>The problem is, before we get to the time where snowfall reaches the ground,
>the keep alive and do something useful power available may well be too low
>to be of any use.

...Which will suck because I'd love to see the arm used to throw the
first snowball on Mars :-)

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