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Space Forum / Shuttle / June 2008Astronaut Mass Exodus coming
With the winding down of shuttle ops, will we soon see a mass exodus of longer-term shuttle astronauts who don't want to wait for 2014/2015 to fly again at the earliest. > With the winding down of shuttle ops, will we soon see a mass exodus > of longer-term shuttle astronauts who don't want to wait for 2014/2015 > to fly again at the earliest. No. >> With the winding down of shuttle ops, will we soon see a mass exodus >> of longer-term shuttle astronauts who don't want to wait for 2014/2015 >> to fly again at the earliest. > >No. I don't see why not. D.  SignatureTouch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. http://derekl1963.livejournal.com/ -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings. Oct 5th, 2004 JDL >>> With the winding down of shuttle ops, will we soon see a mass exodus >>> of longer-term shuttle astronauts who don't want to wait for 2014/2015 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I don't see why not. They're already busy in developing Orion. Astronaut is a big word - remember that John Young was never described as a "former astronaut" while he was with NASA; most astronauts spend their time either training for an upcoming mission or on other duties - it doesn't take nine years to train an astronaut how to be an astronaut, but many astronauts have waited that long for a flight - they do other things in 'the program' in the mean time. That will be the case for the 2010-2014/15 time frame. >>>> With the winding down of shuttle ops, will we soon see a mass exodus >>>> of longer-term shuttle astronauts who don't want to wait for 2014/2015 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >remember that John Young was never described as a "former astronaut" while >he was with NASA; John Young was never described as a former astronaut for the blindingly simple reason that, on paper at least, he never was a former astronaut. >most astronauts spend their time either training for an >upcoming mission or on other duties - it doesn't take nine years to train an >astronaut how to be an astronaut, Very true, and utterly unrelated to the issue at hand. >but many astronauts have waited that long >for a flight - they do other things in 'the program' in the mean time. That >will be the case for the 2010-2014/15 time frame. There's a considerable difference between waiting for a flight in an active program, and waiting for a flight on a program that isn't flying. D. SignatureTouch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. http://derekl1963.livejournal.com/ -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings. Oct 5th, 2004 JDL >>> With the winding down of shuttle ops, will we soon see a mass exodus >>> of longer-term shuttle astronauts who don't want to wait for 2014/2015 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I don't see why not. Also, there wasn't a mass exodus after Apollo; that happened during Apollo, especially for the scientist/astronauts. There was even an Apollo astronaut who was born in Australia (Peterson?). Many Apollo astronauts went on to work in the Shuttle program - Crippen and Young are two examples, but Crippen wasn't originally an Apollo astronaut - he was from MOL. If they stay around, they won't be short of work, just short of flight opportunities for a couple of years. > With the winding down of shuttle ops, will we soon see a mass exodus > of longer-term shuttle astronauts who don't want to wait for 2014/2015 > to fly again at the earliest. what makes anyone think the pork piggie will ever fly? shuttle retirement date will be pushed back. and new manned launcher redsigned to use existing boosters. the solids were a bad idea from day one....... I'd imagine this depends on whether they feel engaged enough in what they are doing and why. They seem to have been leaving quite a lot of late from what I hear. Brian SignatureBrian Gaff - briang1@blueyonder.co.uk Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! > With the winding down of shuttle ops, will we soon see a mass exodus > of longer-term shuttle astronauts who don't want to wait for 2014/2015 > to fly again at the earliest. > I'd imagine this depends on whether they feel engaged enough in what they > are doing and why. They seem to have been leaving quite a lot of late from [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > of longer-term shuttle astronauts who don't want to wait for 2014/2015 > > to fly again at the earliest. With the quantity of astronauts on duty, there are a limited number of flight available. Some have already flown so will go on to other pursuits. Others who have not flown will likely have the patience to wait out the hiatus after the shuttle retires. The same thing happened after ASTP in 1975. I would guess it would all depend if the current astronaut corps has private opinions on whether that CEV thing will really fly or not. If there are feelings that it will be cancelled, as have all other shuttle replacement programmes, then once the shuttle is retired, I suspect many will retire with it. Note that a year ago, NASA hired a new bunch of astronauts. Those might stick around long enough, doing office work or whatever, until NASA has a viable human space programme again. If the CEV thing really does materialise, then this new bunch of astronauts will become the new core since by then, a big part of the shuttle astronauts will have become near retirement age. >I would guess it would all depend if the current astronaut corps has > private opinions on whether that CEV thing will really fly or not. If > there are feelings that it will be cancelled, as have all other shuttle > replacement programmes, then once the shuttle is retired, I suspect many > will retire with it. What "other shuttle replacement programmes"? PLONK - pver alan is so out of date and dogs and all think he is a fire hydrant. and little boy alan & marty wallace has made over 200 10min. voice mails from +616045507000. with sex soumds and the words f.ck, dick, suck, sh.t, gay, a.shole, f.ck you, ANIMAL, SEX,balls,hair and alot of other words i don't want to post BECAUSE I AM A CHRISTIAN. >With the winding down of shuttle ops, will we soon see a mass exodus >of longer-term shuttle astronauts who don't want to wait for 2014/2015 >to fly again at the earliest. There is still the International Space Station. Brian Frankly who cares? There will always be plenty of applicants any time there is a call. If people want to move on they are free to do so. If you aren't picked to go on shuttle after 6 years you must be doing something wrong I think. It will be somewhat different, but Obama may push back the shuttle retirement if Congress wants to do it, no matter what NASA plans are. Griffin is quietly opposed to this stupid decision and he may gain influence or make the pitch for continued flights till Orion is up and running. January arrives in 6 months remember, and Congress is already thumbing their nose at Bush's wants in terms of legislation. They just voted for an additional flight you know. There's no reason SHuttle can't fly to 2020 if we make the decision. NEVER SAY NEVER LOL! >>With the winding down of shuttle ops, will we soon see a mass exodus >>of longer-term shuttle astronauts who don't want to wait for 2014/2015 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Brian >Frankly who cares? Those of us concerned about the future of the program. >There will always be plenty of applicants any time there is a call. Having plenty of applicants is a Good Thing, not having sufficient continuity and experience on hand is a Bad Thing. >If you aren't picked to go on shuttle after 6 years you must be doing >something wrong I think. That's more a reflection of the bloated state of the Astronaut Office than any shortcomings of an individual astronaut. D. SignatureTouch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. http://derekl1963.livejournal.com/ -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings. Oct 5th, 2004 JDL |
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