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Todd H. - 13 Jun 2008 16:04 GMT
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/5835201.html

They're playing the downlinked video in about a minute on NasaTV.

They think currently it's a thermal clip and not critical.

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Alan Erskine - 13 Jun 2008 16:18 GMT
> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/5835201.html
>
> They're playing the downlinked video in about a minute on NasaTV.
>
> They think currently it's a thermal clip and not critical.

They think... That means they simply don't know and are saying "There's
nothing we can do about it anyway".  Sounds like Challenger and Columbia all
over again.  I hope not.
Todd H. - 13 Jun 2008 16:37 GMT
>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/5835201.html
>>
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> They think... That means they simply don't know and are saying "There's
> nothing we can do about it anyway".

Based on the comment based on such limited data, are you perchance one
of the trolls I need to plonk?

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Alan Erskine - 13 Jun 2008 17:45 GMT
>>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/5835201.html
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Based on the comment based on such limited data, are you perchance one
> of the trolls I need to plonk?

No.  But I think you need to hang around for a while before opening your
mouth, which is obviously larger than your brain.
André, PE1PQX - 13 Jun 2008 18:24 GMT
Alan Erskine stelde de volgende uitleg voor :

>>>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/5835201.html
>>>>
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> No.  But I think you need to hang around for a while before opening your
> mouth, which is obviously larger than your brain.

And the bickering starts all over again....
Todd H. - 13 Jun 2008 19:26 GMT
>>>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/5835201.html
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> No.  But I think you need to hang around for a while before opening your
> mouth, which is obviously larger than your brain.

Ah, so you're not a troll but just an a.shole?  Gotcha.

Ironically it was your comments came off as (mouth > brain) initially,
or I'd not have bothered with a reply.

But pleased to make your acquaintance all the same.

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Alan Erskine - 14 Jun 2008 04:42 GMT
> Ah, so you're not a troll but just an a.shole?  Gotcha.

No, I just don't like people who make assumptions based on one post.

> Ironically it was your comments came off as (mouth > brain) initially,
> or I'd not have bothered with a reply.
>
> But pleased to make your acquaintance all the same.

Nice to meet you too. ;-)
OM - 14 Jun 2008 04:20 GMT
>No.  But I think you need to hang around for a while before opening your
>mouth, which is obviously larger than your brain.

...Down, Alan! Heel! Don't misplace the trust Pat placed upon you.

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Brian Gaff - 14 Jun 2008 08:38 GMT
Its so nice to see intelligent civil discussion isn't it?

I'm sure that you are aware that a very  good photo of the item is  on the
ground now and its been positively identified.

I thin the main worry left is what else might have dropped off that nobody
saw, but you can play that game all day, and nobody would ever go anywhere.

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>>>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/5835201.html
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> No.  But I think you need to hang around for a while before opening your
> mouth, which is obviously larger than your brain.
Alan Erskine - 14 Jun 2008 14:34 GMT
> Its so nice to see intelligent civil discussion isn't it?
>
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> saw, but you can play that game all day, and nobody would ever go
> anywhere.

Brian, if you played that game, you'd be called a troll.  ;-)
Jorge R. Frank - 13 Jun 2008 18:52 GMT
>>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/5835201.html
>>>
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> Based on the comment based on such limited data, are you perchance one
> of the trolls I need to plonk?

Hard to tell with Alan sometimes. But yeah, if that were the only post
I'd seen from him, I'd plonk him too.

Comparing the high-resolution in-flight photos with photos of the part
in question, there's little doubt in my mind that NASA ID'ed it
correctly as a rudder speed brake spring seal clip. These clips provide
a thermal seal for the RSB for ascent plume heating. They are not
required for entry. The clip probably came loose during the aerosurface
drive portion of FCS checkout. Orbiters have returned with missing clips
without issue, but this is the first time I'm aware that one has been
caught "in the act" of floating away.
Bash - 13 Jun 2008 19:09 GMT
> Comparing the high-resolution in-flight photos with photos of the part
> in question, there's little doubt in my mind that NASA ID'ed it
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> without issue, but this is the first time I'm aware that one has been
> caught "in the act" of floating away.

Just beat me and a much better explanation than I could offer!
Thanks Jorge :-)

Bry
Todd H. - 13 Jun 2008 19:26 GMT
>>>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/5835201.html
>>>>
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> missing clips without issue, but this is the first time I'm aware that
> one has been caught "in the act" of floating away.

Thanks Jorge.  Yeah, they've since been discounting this clip as any
concern, which makes sense.  I'm sure we'll get more detail in this
afternoon's press conferences, but it does seem like one of those
things that's normal but just not been observed in the act
previously.

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Bash - 13 Jun 2008 19:07 GMT
> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/5835201.html
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7453503.stm
Funny how BBC speculates ice - I was wondering if bbo ahller
contributed to that one ;-)

MSNBC states it is a thermal clip design to protect the insulation
from the (sound and vibration?) liftoff phase off flight. Apparently
there are three on the tail area and the shuttle has landed before
with one missing. NASA also thinks it is non critical.

Bry
OM - 14 Jun 2008 04:19 GMT
>Funny how BBC speculates ice - I was wondering if bbo ahller
>contributed to that one ;-)

...That would make him bbc hallr. Or is that bcb hallr?

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Bash - 14 Jun 2008 15:40 GMT
> ...That would make him bbc hallr. Or is that bcb hallr?
>
>                                 OM

Also bab lohler or barb hoell ;-)
 
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