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Space Forum / Shuttle / April 2008A article written with maxon in mind
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1097/1 > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1097/1 Actually, it's written for those of us who are debating whether or not to reply to Maxon's obviously factually incorrect ramblings. Here's what he had to say near the end: Should those of us who know better try to contradict the crazies in order to protect the vast uneducated public? Or should we ignore them? Should we let the crazy people stand on their tiny soapboxes and yell nutty things about Freemasons and alien structures, confident that they will ultimately have little influence on others, and that the few people they will influence are beyond saving anyways? Should we be amused by the monkey, but not give him our car keys? Man, I don't know. (Yes, I realize that all of you were hoping for a bigger, stronger finish. Sorry, I ran out of steam.) I do know that it takes a lot of time and energy to try to reason with the nutcases. And there will always be nutcases. And as long as there are nutcases, there will also be people who will be influenced by them. Most of us here choose to killfile Maxon, or at least not respond to him. When I young and attending college at Purdue, there was a middle-aged guy who would show up in the same public place every (nice) day. His goal in life seemed to be to tell us all how we were going to all go to hell if we didn't convert to his religion. There were very few people who listened to him. Some shouted back challenges to him. He always had an answer, even if it didn't make logical sense. Some listeners were clearly enamoured by the guy. I chose to ignore him by making sure I had my Sony Walkman clone cassette player with me. For all you kids, a Sony Walkman was the state of the art in portable music players at the time. Jeff  SignatureA clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein > Actually, it's written for those of us who are debating whether or not to > reply to Maxon's obviously factually incorrect ramblings. Don't you wish? Don't you wish even more that you could get Day to say that? Who's Maxon? Last I knew, Maxon built garbage trucks or such. Maybe the Maxon company will bring suit against you, Findley. (Don't I wish?) You're so out of line that you make a snake look like an arrow. JTM On Apr 7, 2:51 pm, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com> wrote: > > Actually, it's written for those of us who are debating whether or not to > > reply to Maxon's obviously factually incorrect ramblings. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > JTM Woops -- I forgot to change the subject. Sorry about that. JTM On Apr 7, 4:00 pm, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com> wrote: > On Apr 7, 2:51 pm, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > JTM On Apr 7, 8:59 am, charliexmur...@yahoo.com wrote: > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1097/1 You compare me with Day's conspiracy nuts? They don't even have valid topics, let alone professional backgrounds and credible pre-disaster warnings -- sent or presented as requested to persons of authority who failed to act responsibly! You belong right in the center of the people he ridicules. JTM On Apr 7, 3:21 pm, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com> wrote: > On Apr 7, 8:59 am, charliexmur...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > warnings -- sent or presented as requested to persons of authority who > failed to act responsibly! It screams maxson and fits you to a "T" On Apr 7, 7:27 pm, charliexmur...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Apr 7, 3:21 pm, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > It screams maxson and fits you to a "T" It quite obviously screams from a right-wing motivated ivory tower. NASA disinformation editor Dwayne Allen Day is too lazy and disconnected from real work to engage in the practical engineering matters of our civilian space program. Despite any Mars/VSE propaganda to the contrary, the Bush/Bush agenda for NASA has been quite transparent. It began in the Reagan administration with acts of militarization, disinformation, and destruction . Bush Sr. plainly summarized this right-wing intent in the summer of 1990, when he vowed to "destroy NASA." . . JTM On Apr 8, 8:13 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com> wrote: > On Apr 7, 7:27 pm, charliexmur...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > JTM On Apr 10, 8:53 am, charliexmur...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > It screams <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwayne_A._Day> "Dwayne Allen Day is an American space historian and policy analyst. He received a doctorate degree in political science from The George Washington University[1] where he specialized in space policy and management of the national security bureaucracy. He worked as the Congressional Budget Office Historian and wrote a book on the U.S. Air Force Chief Scientist's Office. He has written many articles in space magazines including Spaceflight, Quest, Novosti Kosmonavtiki and other publications such as Space News. Day published the book Eye in the sky about the CORONA spy satellite programme, and was investigator for the Commission for the Columbia disaster.[1] Currently he is a staff officer at the Space Studies Board of the National Academies of Science in Washington, D.C. Day is a regular contributor to The Space Review, writing on subjects such the Blackstar spaceplane, the Chinese space programme, and Skylab photography of Area 51." On Apr 7, 8:59 am, charliexmur...@yahoo.com wrote: > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1097/1 For serious students of space, I suggest John Doe -- on the sci.space forums. JTM On Apr 10, 10:29 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com> wrote: > On Apr 7, 8:59 am, charliexmur...@yahoo.com wrote: > > >http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1097/1 > > For serious students of space, Avoid all maxson threads and posts On Apr 10, 4:02 pm, charliexmur...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Apr 10, 10:29 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Avoid all maxson threads and posts Like you do, huh? JTM On Apr 10, 5:15 pm, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com> wrote: > On Apr 10, 4:02 pm, charliexmur...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Like you do, huh? It's like poking a caged animal with a stick On Apr 10, 4:44 pm, charliexmur...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Apr 10, 5:15 pm, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > It's like poking a caged animal with a stick You and your cohorts will all be caged animals if Dwayne Allen Day has his way. He brags about being the first to formally promote a policy of outsourcing our civilian space work to China. JTM > On Apr 10, 10:29 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Avoid all maxson threads and posts Well aren't you a hypocrit. You're the only one who responds to his posts and rants anyway. If you stopped, he'd probably go away. >> On Apr 10, 10:29 am, "max...@mission51l.com" <max...@mission51l.com> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Well aren't you a hypocrit. You're the only one who responds to his posts > and rants anyway. If you stopped, he'd probably go away. Even if he didn't go away, those of us who *do* have Maxson killfiled wouldn't have to read Maxson's posts in charliexmurphy's replies to him. Jeff SignatureA clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein On Apr 11, 9:06 am, "Jeff Findley" <jeff.find...@ugs.nojunk.com> wrote: > > Well aren't you a hypocrit. You're the only one who responds to his posts > > and rants anyway. If you stopped, he'd probably go away. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jeff Whine, whine, whine. > Even if he didn't go away, those of us who *do* have Maxson killfiled > wouldn't have to read Maxson's posts in charliexmurphy's replies to him. Agreed; which is what I was getting to. If Murph-Man stopped replying, most of this group wouldn't even know that Maxson was alive, albeit in a highly doubtful mental state. > > Even if he didn't go away, those of us who *do* have Maxson killfiled > > wouldn't have to read Maxson's posts in charliexmurphy's replies to him. > > Agreed; which is what I was getting to. If Murph-Man stopped replying, most > of this group wouldn't even know that Maxson was alive, albeit in a highly > doubtful mental state. Look yourself in the mirror. |
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