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Brian Gaff - 09 Jan 2008 08:50 GMT
We hear a lot about radiation in space, and a lot of what is out there is
coming from a long way away in the form of gamma ray bursts. Unlike  the
radiation from the sun, there is no warning at all, and I just wondered how
much this has an impact on Shuttle and station crew. Or is the orbit pretty
well screened from this sort of event?
As an aside, I keep reading about the events which cause these bursts may
cause gravitational waves, but I've not seen anyone prove these waves
actually occur, or if they lag or  precede the burst if they do.

OK, they are supposed to exist, but....!

I think the powers that be have a lot of serious thinking to do if they
intend to base people out on our moon.

Incidentally, I think we need a name for our moon. All the other planets
with moons have had them named, yet ours is just known as 'the moon'. Lets
give it a name!

Brian

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Damon Hill - 09 Jan 2008 09:13 GMT
> We hear a lot about radiation in space, and a lot of what is out there
> is coming from a long way away in the form of gamma ray bursts. Unlike
>  the radiation from the sun, there is no warning at all, and I just
> wondered how much this has an impact on Shuttle and station crew. Or
> is the orbit pretty well screened from this sort of event?

For all intents and purposes, gamma ray bursts are extremely distant
and too weak to be any kind of a threat.

> As an aside, I keep reading about the events which cause these bursts
> may cause gravitational waves, but I've not seen anyone prove these
> waves actually occur, or if they lag or  precede the burst if they do.

The gravitational waves are even weaker; scientists are struggling to
find ways to measure them.  They may or may not appear with a specific
gamma ray burst event as the possible causes may be several.

--Damon
Revision - 09 Jan 2008 09:42 GMT
>> We hear a lot about radiation in space,

There has recently been some discussion of radiation beaming from stellar
collapse as a possible cause of planetary extinction, along the lines of
asteroid collisions, climate change, a few others.

The lethal radius of lethal radiation is considerable, say 500 light years.
I call it the charcoal briquette effect.

As far as gravity waves, I think these are more of an interest to
cosmologists and theoretical physicists and not so much in terms of relating
to a specific astronomical events.

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Jorge R. Frank - 09 Jan 2008 12:43 GMT
> We hear a lot about radiation in space, and a lot of what is out there is
> coming from a long way away in the form of gamma ray bursts. Unlike  the
> radiation from the sun, there is no warning at all, and I just wondered how
> much this has an impact on Shuttle and station crew. Or is the orbit pretty
> well screened from this sort of event?

The latter.

> Incidentally, I think we need a name for our moon. All the other planets
> with moons have had them named, yet ours is just known as 'the moon'. Lets
> give it a name!

Luna.
Greg D. Moore (Strider) - 10 Jan 2008 03:20 GMT
>> Incidentally, I think we need a name for our moon. All the other planets
>> with moons have had them named, yet ours is just known as 'the moon'.
>> Lets give it a name!
>
> Luna.

Selene

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Damon Hill - 10 Jan 2008 04:10 GMT
"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" <mooregr_deleteth1s@greenms.com> wrote in
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>>> Incidentally, I think we need a name for our moon. All the other
>>> planets with moons have had them named, yet ours is just known as
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>
> Selene

The Big Cheese

--Damon
robert casey - 10 Jan 2008 22:43 GMT
> Incidentally, I think we need a name for our moon. All the other planets
> with moons have had them named, yet ours is just known as 'the moon'. Lets
> give it a name!
>
> Brian

Back before the space age, the word "satellite" was used to describe
natural objects that orbit planets.  But since, that word has evolved to
mean "artificial orbiting object" and the lower case "moon" is used to
describe natural objects that orbit planets.  But upper case "Moon"
means our (Earth's) moon.
BradGuth - 12 Jan 2008 03:00 GMT
> We hear a lot about radiation in space, and a lot of what is out there is
> coming from a long way away in the form of gamma ray bursts. Unlike  the
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> I think the powers that be have a lot of serious thinking to do if they
> intend to base people out on our moon.

According to everything NASA/Apollo, our atmosphere and even the
magnetosphere doesn't filter out hardly anything of X-rays or gamma,
as well as our naked moon isn't the least bit anticathode worthy,
therefore LEO EVA's and even moon surface EVAs are of no significant
radiation concern whatsoever.

You buy any of that?

- Brad Guth
BradGuth - 12 Jan 2008 03:05 GMT
> Incidentally, I think we need a name for our moon. All the other planets
> with moons have had them named, yet ours is just known as 'the moon'. Lets
> give it a name!
>
> Brian

How about Hoax, Fake or Selene, except w/o anything NASA/Apollo on
deck that isn't parked within an artificial crater.
- Brad Guth
 
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