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Space Forum / Shuttle / January 2008were is Kim keller
Who nows what happend to Kim Keller Inspector, Fraternal Order of the Pad Rat who was an active writer to this news group in 1999/2000 He had an ecxelent web site with great Shuttle photo's....  Signature-------------- Jacques :-) www.spacepatches.nl > Who nows what happend to > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > He had an ecxelent web site with great Shuttle photo's.... Where were you when he lost his job? Search Google Groups for "kim keller fired" and you'll find this: | Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle | From: "Kim Keller" <kekel...@cfl.rr.com> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | to expand a little on the facts surrounding my termination so everyone | understands. As far as I can tell, NASA PAO had nothing to do with this. My | website and posts were evidently discovered while USA security was | investigating another employee's computer abuse at work - that person and I | were both posting to the space.com bulletin board and I think that's how | they got interested in me. I was fired because my postings about the work we | were doing allegedly gave away proprietary information, i.e. time required | to perform tasks and the number of personnel involved. USA felt this info | was of sufficient quantity to be considered damaging to company interests. I | didn't even realize what I was discussing could be considered that useful to | a potential competitor. But ignorance is no excuse, so they felt my "crime" | was serious enough to warrant firing. I appealed the decision, a lengthy | process that just concluded last week, and lost. I did find out that my [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | | -Kim- Jeff SignatureA clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein There was also a lot more paranoia around at that time of course. I'm sure more is now being revealed officially than he ever put on his site. Sad, but there are always those with knee jerk reactions and they would lose face if they changed their minds. Its always good practice to ask before doing anything that affects others in the field of publicity I found. Brian SignatureBrian Gaff - briang1@blueyonder.co.uk Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! > >> Who nows what happend to [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Jeff > There was also a lot more paranoia around at that time of course. I'm sure > more is now being revealed officially than he ever put on his site. Sad, > but there are always those with knee jerk reactions and they would lose > face if they changed their minds. > Its always good practice to ask before doing anything that affects others > in the field of publicity I found. True. NASA seems to be releasing a lot more information these days than they used to. Space news sites also exist which provides a bit of anonymity to the information they provide. Kim was releasing similar information on public forums using his own name, so he was an easy target for this company's wrath. Jeff SignatureA clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein > > There was also a lot more paranoia around at that time of course. I'm sure > > more is now being revealed officially than he ever put on his site. Sad, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > public forums using his own name, so he was an easy target for this > company's wrath. Remember it was the private company that fired him not NASA >> > There was also a lot more paranoia around at that time of course. I'm >> > sure [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Remember it was the private company that fired him not NASA That's why I said "he was an easy target for this company's wrath". Still, NASA seems to release a lot of information these days that is similar to what Kim used to release (as an employee of a government contractor). Jeff SignatureA clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein Kim's posted occasionally since leaving the pad rat nest, but I think the selection of Ares may have slowed him down. /dps >Who nows what happend to > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >He had an ecxelent web site with great Shuttle photo's.... ...Yes he did. However, when USA took over Shuttle launch prep ops, he got fired when he inadvertently got caught up in an investigation on another employee over what was rumored to be a kiddie porn sting. Kim wasn't involved, but his info postings were discovered and declared "proprietary" by USA. Just to be total cocksuckers, USA fired Kim, and most of us old sci.space.* regulars have desired to see everyone in the USA upper management responsible suffer some sort of painful, hideous demise. Kim's info wasn't "proprietary" in the least, as it was all publically accessable if you knew where to look. Kim was simply making it easier for us to use it a la Jenkins. What we should have done when that happened was to write our respective Congressional reps with demands that USA C&D this sort of crap and rehire Kim on 1st Amendment grounds. One day, those responsible will pay. And we'll all be there to laugh at them, with Kim pressing the button on the "laughter" sign. OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ > On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:53:41 +0100, "Jacques van Oene" > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > OM > - Kim is doing fine > Kim is doing fine Well, I'm not sure I'm doing "fine"....more like "okay". Then again, I do have a cube with a view of the meat servos, eh Jim? > ...Yes he did. However, when USA took over Shuttle launch prep ops, he > got fired when he inadvertently got caught up in an investigation on > another employee over what was rumored to be a kiddie porn sting. Nah, wasn't porn. A coworker and her boyfriend were using company computer assets to run a personal business. They tracked her computer usage, which took them to her postings on space.com forums, which in turn led to their discovering my posts on the website. > Who nows what happend to > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > He had an ecxelent web site with great Shuttle photo's.... Glad you enjoyed it (while it lasted). I'm doing fine (according to Jim!) working in NASA's Launch Services Program. Sorry I've been absent from sci.space, but I kind of lost my interest in posting. > > Who nows what happend to > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Program. Sorry I've been absent from sci.space, but I kind of lost my > interest in posting. have you thought of suing or some group suining to get your old job back? your job might not exist by the time a lawsuit had gone thru the court but think of the back pay:) Kim, Glad to hear that you are doing fine :-) I'm going to try and contact you personally, Hope it will work, I have some personal questions for you (I hope you do not mind) Talk to you soon :-) And yes I did enjoy your (photo) web site... Signature-------------- Jacques :-) www.spacepatches.nl >> Who nows what happend to >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Program. Sorry I've been absent from sci.space, but I kind of lost my > interest in posting. > Kim, > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> Program. Sorry I've been absent from sci.space, but I kind of lost my >> interest in posting. Good to hear from you. I miss your pad rat posts. Good luck. Al G |
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