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Space Forum / Shuttle / November 2007Oh goody they took Luke's lightsabre on this mission.
Question: What is the cost to put a pound in orbit now? Because I want to send my one of my flashlights to spend some time in space. Was Lucas paying for this? > Question: What is the cost to put a pound in orbit now? Because I > want to send my one of my flashlights to spend some time in space. > Was Lucas paying for this? Doesn't really matter: the amount of consumables and resources spent on a given mission is fixed and a pound or several of non-technical odds and ends won't make a measurable difference. The main objectors might be the crew, who will be busy enough with their tasks. --Damon > Doesn't really matter: the amount of consumables and resources spent > on a given mission is fixed and a pound or several of non-technical > odds and ends won't make a measurable difference. The main objectors > might be the crew, who will be busy enough with their tasks. How does the cargo affect the crew? I wouldn't think they have to interact with it during the mission.  SignatureDarren Dunham ddunham@taos.com Senior Technical Consultant TAOS http://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area < This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. > >> Doesn't really matter: the amount of consumables and resources spent >> on a given mission is fixed and a pound or several of non-technical [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > How does the cargo affect the crew? I wouldn't think they have to > interact with it during the mission. One, all the additional cargo makes it less safe for the crew. Performance can easily be traded for low vehicle loads. >> Question: What is the cost to put a pound in orbit now? Because I >> want to send my one of my flashlights to spend some time in space. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > odds and ends won't make a measurable difference. The main objectors > might be the crew, who will be busy enough with their tasks. No, they're not free, maybe spent on the wrong things, and it does matter. TANSTAAFL. I disagree. >TANSTAAFL. > >I disagree. I agree with your disagreement. But what means TANSTAAFL? Jim in Houston. Contrary to popular opinion RN does not mean Real Nerd! Teddy Roosevelt's mother said: "Fill what is empty, empty what is full, and scratch where it itches" SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I agree with your disagreement. But what means TANSTAAFL? > Jim in Houston. "There aint no such thing as a free lunch" But astronauts have always been allowed a kilogram or so of personal items to take up with them. As long as the stuff doesn't outgas or potentially cause similar such problems, you can't just open windows to get some fresh air. That kilogram is well lost in the "noise" of vehicle flight performance anyway. I don't think NASA normally expects to run the tanks completely dry on a normal flight. You might be just a little short on fuel you'd need to get to ISS. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > dry on a normal flight. You might be just a little short on fuel you'd > need to get to ISS. and George Lucas was at the Launch. Its True. angela >>>TANSTAAFL. >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> > "There aint no such thing as a free lunch" From the book by Robert Heinlein, "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TANSTAAFL lol, someone even tried to corrected the grammar, TINSTAAFL? Good for an election year, when you hear a politician giving away free stuff. $5000 to every child born in America. Go figure. SignatureCraig Fink Courtesy E-Mail Welcome @ WeBeGood@GMail.Com >>"There aint no such thing as a free lunch" > > From the book by Robert Heinlein, "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" That's a great book. oh, there's some holes, but overall a good read. > That kilogram is well lost in the "noise" of vehicle flight performance I don't believe that is true. dSafety/dPayLoad is not zero with the Space Shuttle, and it is measurable. Statistically increasing safety for every kilogram not taken up. For a quite a while, the Space Shuttle has had the capability to reduce dynamic pressure for every kilogram taken off. Take one kilogram off, get this much in terms of dynamic pressure. That equates to safety, loads are related to dynamic pressure, angle of attack, slip... It was implemented in DOLILU I, and became available. The dynamic pressure part anyway. SignatureCraig Fink Courtesy E-Mail Welcome @ WeBeGood@GMail.Com > I don't believe that is true. > > dSafety/dPayLoad is not zero with the Space Shuttle, and it is measurable. > Statistically increasing safety for every kilogram not taken up. Does NASA worry about it if some of the astronauts starts putting on a little too much weight? Too many beers and nachos... :-) >I agree with your disagreement. But what means TANSTAAFL? ...There's Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. Thinking they exist is about as wishful as someone like Craig Fink posting coherently. OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ > Question: What is the cost to put a pound in orbit now? Because I want > to > send my one of my flashlights to spend some time in space. Was Lucas > paying for this? A billion per launch, $1,000,000,000 / 50,000 lbs = $20,000 $/lbs The questions are who paid for it, and who owns it? Lucas, probably not, it's a cheap prop from a great movie. Can I send mine too. It would be cool to have a Space Flashlight. [...] > The questions are who paid for it, and who owns it? Lucas, probably not, > it's a cheap prop from a great movie. Wasn't that in the press release a few months back? ISTR we hashed it out then in this forum, so it should be in the archives. And the PR would be in the ssn archives, I bet. > Can I send mine too. It would be cool to have a Space Flashlight. All you need to do is find an astronaut willing to take it up as part of her/his personal allotment. I think I've seen that NASA gets real huffy if stuff appears on eBay too quickly, though. Another option would be to have it one of Bigelow's test launches, but then you might have trouble carrying it Trick-or-Treating. /dps > [...] >> The questions are who paid for it, and who owns it? Lucas, probably not, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > out then in this forum, so it should be in the archives. And the PR > would be in the ssn archives, I bet. What's ISTR? I like Usenet. :-) What I don't like is when the PR is link to Disney Land and Movies. At the JSC "Disney Land" visitor center, in some ways reality has lost out to the movie universe. In particular, the last time I was there (years ago) they played some movie about the future. They started talking about education over at an outpost somewhere in the solar system. The teacher was talking to the student with some sort of subspace Star Trek communicator. They were talking real time, like a video link on Earth. When in reality, there would be hours of delay in the conversation. It's was only a small part, but it blurs the line between reality and movies for the young people. They should really get rid of most of the movie props and go with what the visitors center is for, JSC, NASA and what they have done and are reasonably going to do. I understand the PR aspects, but its a government agency not Private Enterprise. I did like the Russian golf ball drive from the space station. The best part was, they got payed for the PR stunt. But I like everyone else likes the Star Wars films, so can't too upset about NASA doing something that should be done by Private Enterprise. Where are the pics? >> Can I send mine too. It would be cool to have a Space Flashlight. > > All you need to do is find an astronaut willing to take it up as part > of her/his personal allotment. I think I've seen that NASA gets real > huffy if stuff appears on eBay too quickly, though. lol, I'm sure Astronauts have better things to bring up into Space than a flashlight for me in their personal allotment. Like a flashlight for somebody they actually know. :-) > Another option would be to have it one of Bigelow's test launches, but > then you might have trouble carrying it Trick-or-Treating. lol, I agree. Bigelow needs a fly your stuff on their Space Station that is going to be visited. They could charge extra to bring your stuff back to your livingroom. I'm sure they probably already have that one planned. Isn't NASA really unfairly competing with Bigelow Aerospace's "fly your stuff" business? SignatureCraig Fink Courtesy E-Mail Welcome @ WeBeGood@GMail.Com >They should really get rid of most of the movie props and go with what the >visitors center is for, JSC, NASA and what they have done and are >reasonably going to do. Then they'll lose the kids, which are the future taxpayers funding all of the stuff that they hope to reasonably do. Look at what's taught in school these days. My daughter is in the High Achiever classes and she barely gets a dose of science as it is... -- lab~rat >:-) Stupid humans... lab~rat >:-) wrote: > Look at what's taught in school these days. My daughter is in the > High Achiever classes and she barely gets a dose of science as it > is... > > -- Sounds like my grammar school days back in the 60's. In 4th grade science class came after math class, and with the same teacher. As math questions greatly outnumber science questions on the yearly school achievement measuring tests (may be that era's "No child left behind" testing), the teacher would make math class run long, and drop that day's science class. I used to sneak read some science book while multiplication table drills were going on... Or in subsequent grades I'd have science teachers who seemed to know less science than I did in that grade. And in high school they made a history teacher teach algebra II class ("Hey Joe" says the principal late summer before school starts. "We need an algebra teacher". "I'm a history teacher, I haven't done an algebra class before". "How hard could it be, 15 year old kids routinely learn it?". "Okay, I'll do it..." :-) And this was a college prep school. >lab~rat >:-) wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >day's science class. I used to sneak read some science book while >multiplication table drills were going on... My daughter brought home a science book the other day, they were learning about the planets. Of course, she was told that now there are only 8 major planets, and her book included 9, but it also said that Saturn had 18 known moons... LOL She'd be better off learning this stuff on her own... -- lab~rat >:-) Stupid humans... > My daughter brought home a science book the other day, they were > learning about the planets. Of course, she was told that now there > are only 8 major planets, and her book included 9, but it also said > that Saturn had 18 known moons... Back in the mid 60's, my 4th grade history textbook ended US history with the current event of the Korean War. And told all about "evil Godless communism"... :-) Later on, as a working adult at various electronics companies, I met various people who came from Red China and communist Russia, and they all said that communism did suck. > Back in the mid 60's, my 4th grade history textbook ended US history with > the current event of the Korean War. And told all about "evil Godless > communism"... :-) Later on, as a working adult at various electronics > companies, I met various people who came from Red China and communist > Russia, and they all said that communism did suck. Korean War? When was that? I never had a history class that ever went any further then the war between the states. >> Back in the mid 60's, my 4th grade history textbook ended US history with >> the current event of the Korean War. And told all about "evil Godless [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Korean War? When was that? I never had a history class that ever went any >further then the war between the states. You had to tune into M*A*S*H to learn about it. Evidently it was about doctors sleeping with women and making booze from a still and whatnot... -- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? lab~rat >:-)" <chase@sheeze.net> wrote in message news:lfdhj3lpa31hgai7mu9a4ci8j6lqs7c3im@4ax.com... > You had to tune into M*A*S*H to learn about it. Evidently it was > about doctors sleeping with women and making booze from a still and > whatnot... That describes many wars. > -- > lab~rat >:-) > Do you want polite or do you want sincere?-- Greg Moore SQL Server DBA Consulting Remote and Onsite available! Email: sql (at) greenms.com http://www.greenms.com/sqlserver.html > You had to tune into M*A*S*H to learn about it. Evidently it was > about doctors sleeping with women and making booze from a still and > whatnot... > -- > lab~rat >:-) > Do you want polite or do you want sincere? My father was in the Korean War. Two people my father would not walk across to street to pee on if on fire, Jane Fonda & Alan Alda. My father could not stand MASH. Anytime they showed any character that was actually patriotic, the character was all ways written as an idiot, buffoon, insane, racist, etc. MASH never would show a North Korean that was unlikable. I might have found it funny when I was 7, but even I started growing tired of Alan Alda's sermons and sarcasm. MASH ended in the early eighties, but still today I cannot watch that man. My father was too young for WWII but knew older class mates that went and did not return. One classmate who joined the Army Air Corp later lost his life as a crewman aboard a RB-47 when it was downed by a MIG in one of those incidents that was not publicised until years later. His family was only told something to the effect that he died in an aircraft accident. Both my father and this hero were from the same small town in SE Oklahoma. Many in town suspected more, but knew that there had to be some secrets in this world. A much different time. If Wolf Blitzer had turned up in this town try to push the family to "FIND THE TRUTH" he would likely have been escorted away for his own protection. Sorry to ramble >My father was in the Korean War. Two people my father would not walk across >to street to pee on if on fire, Jane Fonda & Alan Alda. My father could not [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >sermons and sarcasm. MASH ended in the early eighties, but still today I >cannot watch that man. ...Some points of order: 1) The major mistake made with Hanoi Jane was *not* arresting her for treason the second she stepped off the plane after getting that Ack-Ack barrel wet. From what's been leaked over the years, much of the reason behind that not being done was that her father, Henry, got a *lot* of his Hollyweird buddies to put pressure on Washington to simply let Jane's stupidity blow over. It is considered by many political historians as the first sign of just how much influence Hollywood could have on foreign policy - a fact not lost on that particular leftist element that happened to still be stinging from the McCarthy "Witch Hunts" from a decade earlier. 2) While M*A*S*H was clearly anit-war propaganda, it was also far more fair towards the necessity of the military than most of the entertainment industry was at the time. At the same time, while being harshly satirical of the military leadership, it also presented quite a fair balance of when the military *was* doing its job right. Where it screwed up was exaggerated for comedy and/or made blatantly obvious, respective where applicable. This added up to a show that poked fun at the Military-Industrial Complex in effect at the time, and not at the necessity of the war itself. Not once did any of the 4077th claim that the US should pack up and leave South Korea to the Communists; they simply wanted the return to the pre-war status quo so nobody else would die and they could go home again. OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ > 1) The major mistake made with Hanoi Jane was *not* arresting her for > treason the second she stepped off the plane after getting that > Ack-Ack barrel wet. From what's been leaked over the years, much of > the reason behind that not being done was that her father, Henry, got > a *lot* of his Hollyweird buddies to put pressure on Washington to > simply let Jane's stupidity blow over. Maybe she was really a CIA spy. :-) Though how the CIA could recruit her with a reasonable expectation that she wouldn't blab about such recruitment attempts if she turns them down is another question that would cast doubt on that theory... >> 1) The major mistake made with Hanoi Jane was *not* arresting her for >> treason the second she stepped off the plane after getting that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >recruitment attempts if she turns them down is another question that >would cast doubt on that theory... Any time I see Barbarella, I pretend it isn't her. ;) -- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? > Any time I see Barbarella, I pretend it isn't her. ;) > -- > lab~rat >:-) > Do you want polite or do you want sincere? I think Ted Turner did the same thing when he had sleep with her. >> 1) The major mistake made with Hanoi Jane was *not* arresting her for >> treason the second she stepped off the plane after getting that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >recruitment attempts if she turns them down is another question that >would cast doubt on that theory... ...No, she wasn't a "CIA spy". She was simply a Hollywood bimbo brat who got her head turned around by the hippie counterculture, and made a seriously *STUPID* decision - one that damn near cost her a career. If Daddy Henry hadn't stepped in behind the scenes, she would have been literally crucified once she returned to the states. Freedom of Speech is one thing, but when you're committing an act of outright treason...well, let's just say to this day I'm reall surprised that some Vietnam vet hasn't whacked her. OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ > ...No, she wasn't a "CIA spy". She was simply a Hollywood bimbo brat > who got her head turned around by the hippie counterculture, and made > a seriously *STUPID* decision - one that damn near cost her a career. Let's all agree on stupid. I thnk even she had admitted that. > If Daddy Henry hadn't stepped in behind the scenes, she would have > been literally crucified once she returned to the states. Freedom of > Speech is one thing, but when you're committing an act of outright > treason...well, let's just say to this day I'm reall surprised that > some Vietnam vet hasn't whacked her. Perhaps because they understand far better what treason really is and her stupidity didn't rise to that level. > OM SignatureGreg Moore SQL Server DBA Consulting Remote and Onsite available! Email: sql (at) greenms.com http://www.greenms.com/sqlserver.html > Perhaps because they understand far better what treason really is and her > stupidity didn't rise to that level. IIRC, treason is the only crime spelled out in the Constitution, and also it takes two witnesses who saw the same act of treason to testify in court to convict someone of it. They probably didn't have two witnesses... >IIRC, treason is the only crime spelled out in the Constitution, and >also it takes two witnesses who saw the same act of treason to testify >in court to convict someone of it. They probably didn't have two >witnesses... ...IIRC, there's more than one photo of her waxing that VC Ack-Ack in tight jeans and a porno bimbo smile. And since she admits those were actual photos of her performing that act, and she did so willingly - far more than Patty Hearst, obviously - that easily suffices for the two witness rule. Now, anyone know if the SoL is still in effect, and can we still hang the bitch? OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ >> Perhaps because they understand far better what treason really is and her >> stupidity didn't rise to that level. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > in court to convict someone of it. They probably didn't have two > witnesses... Remember, Remember the Fifth of November.... I borrowed a copy of V for Vendetta from the library, with Natalie Portman and Hugo Weaving. I'm going to have to watch it again before I return it, I wasn't paying enough attention to enjoy how it relates... To me the Fifth of November had to do with ... >> You had to tune into M*A*S*H to learn about it. Evidently it was >> about doctors sleeping with women and making booze from a still and [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Sorry to ramble You have made a point that I never thought about. It's true what you say about that show. -- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? >My daughter brought home a science book the other day, they were >learning about the planets. Of course, she was told that now there [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >She'd be better off learning this stuff on her own... ...I know what you mean. My middle brother is a science teacher, and while his focus was on oceanography, he's also fairly up on astronomy and astronautics. Which is why when he looks at the supposedly *NEW* textbook and see the following, he gets pissed: * Jupiter has 12 moons and no ring * Saturn has 22 moons, and nobody knows what the rings are made of. * No mention of any other rings * Iapetus is spelled correctly, but is also listed as Japetus in the index! * Only Apollo 11 and 13 are mentioned in any detail, and the total content is about four pages and two pictures. * NO mention of Gemini at all! * Two pages dedicated to the Shuttle, and the only photos are of Challenger just after "Go for Throttle-Up". * Mercury gets three pages along with Vostok at least, but both are dismissed as having little scientific value and were more Cold War "Sabre Rattling" ...Which is why he's asked me to put together lecture notes for a week-long focus on space history for next February, about the time of the anniversary of Glenn's first flight (*). What I wonder is how much trouble he'll get into for telling his students that all Congressdorks who voted against NASA funding are traitors, and that Walter Mondale is going to hell for raping Senate page boys in between A1 hearing sessions? :-) (*) Never did expect to ever say "first" in between "Glenn's" and "flight"! OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ > ...I know what you mean. My middle brother is a science teacher, and > while his focus was on oceanography, he's also fairly up on astronomy [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > * Iapetus is spelled correctly, but is also listed as Japetus in the > index! I wouldn't be suprised if some new science textbook still has Mercury's day being the same as its year, 88 days. This reminds me of Richard Feymen's book "Surely you're Joking" where he describes badly written grade school math books (back in the late 50's). One had a word problem: Stars in the sky have different colors, depending on their surface temperatures. Red stars are 5000 degrees hot, yellow stars 6000 degrees, green stars 7000 degrees, blue stars 10000 degrees (I made up the numbers). Then it says "Johnny and his father go stargazing, they both see a total of 4 red stars, 3 yellow stars, one green and one blue star. What is the total of the temperatures of all these stars?" Which would give you a rather meaningless number, unless you then divide it by the number of stars to get an average. But if you don't do an average, but just keep the total, What does it mean? It was just a ruse to get you to do some addition... Also, there are no green stars, a minor mistake, but it indicates that whoever wrote this book didn't really know anything about how to use math to do science. So much for "New Math"... Speaking of "New Math", they talked about set theory, which seemed easy for me but I don't think the teacher or the rest of the class "got it". And I thought I was an ordinary dumb kid... :-) And I was right! :-) I thought it was a nice break from multiplication and addition drills, a vacation of sorts. I tried to help a classmate figure sets out, but I'm not that good at explaining stuff, and got blank stares. >>lab~rat >:-) wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > She'd be better off learning this stuff on her own... lol, I know a lot of home schoolers. You can choose the books she would read, and get a new one that's correct. Contrary to what most people believe, home schooled children seem to be much better socially, are readily accepted by Universities. They get a much better education, learn to study on their own sooner, with better study habits, and relate to adults much better. It really seems to strengthen the family bonds that are lost or strained by public schools. Usually there are other home schoolers around so, social interaction between kids, home school groups do meet to teach various subjects, participate in sports, outside activities... But, like anything, there are few that public schools may have been better for. If you can afford it, it has many positive benefits. > It really seems to strengthen the family bonds that are > lost or strained by public schools. As opposed to the bonds strained by parent trying to be teacher to child -- not to mention having the time to spend on preparing and teaching. Homeschooling is probably rare in 2-income families. /dps >Question: What is the cost to put a pound in orbit now? Because I want to >send my one of my flashlights to spend some time in space. Was Lucas paying >for this? ...You know, some dogsucking skank posted something similar to this over on Boing Boing today, and I tore her a new a.shole then as everyone here is about to tear one for you, you festering little luddite troll. OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ >...You know, some dogsucking skank posted something similar to this >over on Boing Boing today, and I tore her a new a.shole then as >everyone here is about to tear one for you, you festering little >luddite troll. Surely a luddite troll would be writing handwritten letters to the editor of a newspaper rather than posting on the Internet. On the other hand, perhaps those of us hanging out on Usenet are the luddites. > On the other hand, perhaps those of us hanging out on Usenet are the luddites. I hear all the cool kids use web forums nowadays. And won't get off my lawn! *shakes fist* SignatureThis is a siggy | To E-mail, do note | Just because something It's properly formatted | who you mean to reply-to | is possible, doesn't No person, none, care | and it will reach me | mean it can happen >> Question: What is the cost to put a pound in orbit now? Because I want to >> send my one of my flashlights to spend some time in space. Was Lucas paying [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > OM My, you are a real badass aren't you? Verbally ripping a woman a new arsehole anonymously via the internet. That must have really taken quite an impressive pair of stones. Congratulations. > >> Question: What is the cost to put a pound in orbit now? Because I want to > >> send my one of my flashlights to spend some time in space. Was Lucas paying [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > arsehole anonymously via the internet. That must have really taken > quite an impressive pair of stones. Congratulations. Being a woman buys no exemptions. Stupid is as stupid does. Mary "Although OM is careful what he calls them" SignatureMary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer We didn't just do weird stuff at Dryden, we wrote reports about it. reunite.gondwana@gmail.com or miliff@qnet.com Visit my new blog at http://thedigitalknitter.blogspot.com/ >> >> Question: What is the cost to put a pound in orbit now? Because I >> >> want to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Mary "Although OM is careful what he calls them" And, your praise of him is a reflection on you. Watch out group, civility is here is about t... >> Being a woman buys no exemptions. Stupid is as stupid does. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > is > here is about t... I don't see where Mary is praising OM. If you're referring to the tagline there, that's in reference to a time when Mary essentially ripped OM a new one over a specific term he used. If anything, Mary quite frequently brings a great deal of civility to the groups she participates in. (and btw, welcome back Mary, long time no see.) SignatureGreg Moore SQL Server DBA Consulting Remote and Onsite available! Email: sql (at) greenms.com http://www.greenms.com/sqlserver.html >>> Being a woman buys no exemptions. Stupid is as stupid does. >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > If anything, Mary quite frequently brings a great deal of civility to the > groups she participates in. Ok, you could be right, sometimes I miss the satire... I'll be... more... careful... On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 08:15:17 -0500, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" <mooregr_deleteth1s@greenms.com> wrote: >I don't see where Mary is praising OM. ...Oh yes she is. She's just veiling it so Ken doesn't get suspicious :-) > If you're referring to the tagline >there, that's in reference to a time when Mary essentially ripped OM a new >one over a specific term he used. ...Yes, I used the C-word, and really horked her off with it. Since then, I defer to her feelings, and any time I mention the little bastard, I spell it ~CT. >If anything, Mary quite frequently brings a great deal of civility to the >groups she participates in. ...Agreed. And it's a shame, too. With the exception of Dwayne Day - who left over issues with his own ego - a lot of the really knowledgible ones have been run off by the likes of ~CT and the rest of the trolls. >(and btw, welcome back Mary, long time no see.) ...Dittoed here as well. We were actually getting worried as to where you'd run off to. OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ Some people just choose to not read your filth and swill, or watch you go for a tumble with someone in a pile of.... Was it fun Mary? Good grief.... Don't answer that. > On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 08:15:17 -0500, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" > <mooregr_deleteth1s@greenms.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ...Dittoed here as well. We were actually getting worried as to where > you'd run off to. I've been dealing with my late mother's house, emptying it out and getting it ready to go on the market, and I just plain haven't had time to read Usenet. The probate is about to close, the house is on the market, and life may actually return to normal. Mary "Plus, I've been knitting a lot" SignatureMary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer We didn't just do weird stuff at Dryden, we wrote reports about it. reunite.gondwana@gmail.com or miliff@qnet.com Visit my new blog at http://thedigitalknitter.blogspot.com/ >> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 08:15:17 -0500, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" >> <mooregr_deleteth1s@greenms.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > time to read Usenet. The probate is about to close, the house is on > the market, and life may actually return to normal. Ah, sorry to hear you've had to deal with that. My condolences. > Mary "Plus, I've been knitting a lot" Make my hat a large one. (Speaking of which, something I'll have to post sometime.... got to the NASM annex. Ok, yeah. seeing the Enterprise and an SR-71 up close... real cool!) SignatureGreg Moore SQL Server DBA Consulting Remote and Onsite available! Email: sql (at) greenms.com http://www.greenms.com/sqlserver.html >My, you are a real badass aren't you? Verbally ripping a woman a new >arsehole anonymously via the internet. That must have really taken >quite an impressive pair of stones. Congratulations. ...This coming from an obvious twit who not only uses an alias, but has chosen one that happens to be a complete dweeb. But then again, if you'd had a clue you'd realize I'm *not* as anon as you'd love to believe. I've been a regular on the sci.space groups for over a decade, but not that it's of any concern to you. Your only concern is to f.ck off and die like a troll deserves. Painfully. <PLONK> ...There. Let him be dinner for Brad Guth now. OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ >>My, you are a real badass aren't you? Verbally ripping a woman a new >>arsehole anonymously via the internet. That must have really taken [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > <PLONK> Another totally meaningless statement, watch out group the swill meter on sci.space.shuttle is about to ... Say goodbye to civility here. >> My, you are a real badass aren't you? Verbally ripping a woman a new >> arsehole anonymously via the internet. That must have really taken [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > OM Oh my, you did really tell me off didn't you OM. You feel more like a man now? I've know people like you before. Impotent, powerless, frustrated little people who wield no power and command no respect in the real world but think they are some sort of King in Cyberspace. And to top it off I even got the "<PLONK>". Yes, you really put me in my place. I really don't doubt that you have been in here patrolling your territory for the last decade. I on the other hand have a real life for the last ten years. You ought to try it sometime. |
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