Good viewing of Shuttle and Station for the next few days. At a location
near you.
http://www.heavens-above.com/

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Ron Paul makes history, getting boos during the debate by a few fringe
Republicans, as he wins another Republican Debate. The Ron Paul rEVOLution
continues, First Place with 34%.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gsXLf_w_0fs
Republicans Boo The American People (well 70% of them)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5DmvKVVVX1o
Boo, notice the first boo appears to in a very low voice into a microphone
that was picked up on the video. Speculation is that it is Rudy cueing up
some fringe group.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H156PFxAh1E
Boo, Boo, Boo, Boo...speculation is it might be Rudy.
> Good viewing of Shuttle and Station for the next few days. At a location
> near you.
>
> http://www.heavens-above.com/
I live in the LA area and I saw ISS tonight, it was too bright to be the
shuttle, even with all the smoke in the sky. After a few minutes it passed
into
darkness. I waited around for the orbiter but it wasnt behind it?
Craig Fink - 24 Oct 2007 13:37 GMT
>> Good viewing of Shuttle and Station for the next few days. At a location
>> near you.
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> into
> darkness. I waited around for the orbiter but it wasnt behind it?
Well the wind quit blowing in Houston this morning, hopefully it quit
blowing in California too. The huge High pressure system and Low pressure
system to the east sure can move a lot of air, like a pump reinforcing each
other.

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rEvolution - 25 Oct 2007 04:15 GMT
Saw both the ISS and shuttle this evening from Boulder, CO, Shuttle about 2
minutes behind the ISS. I was quite surprised to see how dim the shuttle was
compared to ISS. Much dimmer than usual.
>> Good viewing of Shuttle and Station for the next few days. At a location
>> near you.
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> into
> darkness. I waited around for the orbiter but it wasnt behind it?
Wonderful pass of ISS and Discovery about 8 PM last night
from my son's backyard in Houston. I showed them both (12 minutes apart) to
my
6-year-old grandson, and described how the shuttle was chasing the
station, and he noticed that the shuttle, when it appeared, was well off to
the
left (west) of the station track. So I got to explain how he had
just seen proof that Earth was rotating. Made sense to him.
Both ISS and shuttle also went into shadow near zenith, and he wondered
why. Back in his bedroom (it was past his official bedtime but his mom
gave him an official waiver), we played with models of objects passing into
the shadow of other objects, using his bed reading light as the sun.
Cool.
> Good viewing of Shuttle and Station for the next few days. At a location
> near you.
>
> http://www.heavens-above.com/
Craig Fink - 24 Oct 2007 13:24 GMT
> Wonderful pass of ISS and Discovery about 8 PM last night
> from my son's backyard in Houston. I showed them both (12 minutes apart)
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>
> Cool.
I agree, viewing was great in the Houston area. It was really impressive to
watch the Space Station and Shuttle go through sunset onorbit. Dimming then
orange and finally fading into a very deep red. I wonder if the geometry
was right and the fires in California contributed to the impressive color
change.
Where they disappeared has a little bit to do with the Earths rotation, but
the major effect is the altitude difference between the Station and
Orbiter. The Shuttle being much lower and closer to the Earth hits the
Sunset line first. Being in a lower orbit to catch up with the Space
Station.
I'm glad you used such a good opportunity to teach your grandson. Looks like
we should have more good viewing in Houston for the next three days.

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Jim Oberg - 24 Oct 2007 13:31 GMT
Good point re the altitude -- probably a bigger
factor than the 12 minutes between them.
But 12 minutes of Earth's rotation meant we
were watching the same orbital plane but were
maybe 130 miles further east, and that was the very
noticeable difference in their tracks across the sky.
>> Wonderful pass of ISS and Discovery about 8 PM last night
>> from my son's backyard in Houston. I showed them both (12 minutes apart)
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> like
> we should have more good viewing in Houston for the next three days.
Craig Fink - 24 Oct 2007 13:39 GMT
Good point, I guess we'd have to do the geometry problem to figure out which
is bigger, 130 miles east is a lot. Maybe they're of the same magnitude.
> Good point re the altitude -- probably a bigger
> factor than the 12 minutes between them.
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John - 25 Oct 2007 00:18 GMT
Why not track it on your computer with something like Heavensat and receive
its radio signals on a scanner, it all adds to the experience !
John
>> Wonderful pass of ISS and Discovery about 8 PM last night
>> from my son's backyard in Houston. I showed them both (12 minutes apart)
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> like
> we should have more good viewing in Houston for the next three days.
Jim in Houston - 24 Oct 2007 22:50 GMT
>Wonderful pass of ISS and Discovery about 8 PM last night
>from my son's backyard in Houston. I showed them both (12 minutes apart) to
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>
>Cool.
Wow! I wanna come over too! I don't understand what you taught your
Grandson. Can you recommend a site which explains this? I know it
seems odd that I wouldn't understand such a seemingly simple concept,
but I just don't, and I would like to understand it and teach it to my
son.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Jim in Houston.
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Teddy Roosevelt's mother said: "Fill what is empty,
empty what is full, and scratch where it itches"

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