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Is a booster launch ramp feasible?

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George Orwell - 22 Jul 2007 22:17 GMT
In the film classic, "When Worlds Collide," a mile-long ramp was fitted
with a rocket propelled sled upon which the spaceship-plane was given its
intial "impetus."  This makes a lot of sense to me.

In the first phase, the ship goes down hill via rocket-sled, with wing
engines lit.  As the ramp curves upward, the ship's main engines are
additionally fired.  With all engines at full blast, the spaceship leaves
at about a 45 degree angle upwards with all engines going.  The sled is
runs off the ramp and is discarded.  The ship has achieved flying speed and
continues to accelerate against Earth's gravity to its 1500 mile, 10 mile
per second rendeavous with Zyra.  This scene is totally believable and
appears scientifically accurate to the point where I cannot understand why
NASA has not adapted this approach to rocketship blast offs.
Brian Gaff - 23 Jul 2007 13:25 GMT
Hmm, well what about the g forces in the curve? The other problem is that
your ship needs wings, at least for the first part. Many winged missiles did
and do launch this way, but then, they are not trying to get into space and
eventual orbit.

If you watch what really happens in a standard launch, the  thick atmosphere
is cleared in the shortest time by having a large vertical component. This
presumably is the most efficient way to use fuel.

So what next. How about a tube launcher partially evacuated of air by huge
pumps to make the air thinner at ground level? :-)

Brian

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> In the film classic, "When Worlds Collide," a mile-long ramp was fitted
> with a rocket propelled sled upon which the spaceship-plane was given its
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> appears scientifically accurate to the point where I cannot understand why
> NASA has not adapted this approach to rocketship blast offs.
robert casey - 24 Jul 2007 22:03 GMT
> In the film classic, "When Worlds Collide," a mile-long ramp was fitted
> with a rocket propelled sled upon which the spaceship-plane was given its
> intial "impetus."  This makes a lot of sense to me.

As the other poster said, you want to avoid having to punch thru too
much lower atmosphere.  Also you lose some energy in the friction in the
wheels of that sled, and the energy to accerlate the mass of that sled,
even though it's discarded early.  Also changing the vector costs some
energy too.  When you add up all these things on a ledger, vs the
straight up launching NASA does today, it's probably not worth the extra
complexity.  Other schemes, like having the launch pad atop a tall
mountain, become too much of a PITA to be worth the trouble of getting
your rockets delivered up that mountain.
 
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