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Danny Deger - 15 Jul 2007 18:23 GMT

Here is a link to a great letter from the NASA Shuttle Program Manager,
Wayne Hale. With people like Wayne in charge, NASA may have a chance of
getting to the moon.

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=24762

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Brian Gaff - 16 Jul 2007 11:42 GMT

Yes, sounds like common sense, but it does not take account of those who are
in management who do not share that view and seem to be interested
in'managing', rather than listening and then deciding.

Brian

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> Here is a link to a great letter from the NASA Shuttle Program Manager,
> Wayne Hale. With people like Wayne in charge, NASA may have a chance of
> getting to the moon.
>
> http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=24762

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Derek Lyons - 16 Jul 2007 19:33 GMT

>Yes, sounds like common sense, but it does not take account of those who are
>in management who do not share that view and seem to be interested
>in'managing', rather than listening and then deciding.

'Listening and deciding' _is_ 'managing'.

D.

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nmp - 21 Jul 2007 19:16 GMT

Op Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:33:07 +0000, schreef Derek Lyons:

>>Yes, sounds like common sense, but it does not take account of those who
>>are in management who do not share that view and seem to be interested
>>in'managing', rather than listening and then deciding.
>
> 'Listening and deciding' _is_ 'managing'.

You also know that many "managers" in all sorts of organisations
routinely forget to do the "listening" part... Or even the "deciding"
part, busy as they are looking important behind their desks and at
meetings with other "managers".

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Danny Deger - 21 Jul 2007 21:40 GMT

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>...busy as they are looking important behind their desks and at
> meetings with other "managers".

A perfect summary of many managers throughout the world -- especially
meetings with other managers. Great line, thanks.

Danny Deger

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Jim Kingdon - 24 Jul 2007 01:13 GMT

> http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=24762

Am I the only cynic here? I read this letter as "management is making
bad decisions, and it is all the fault of the non-managers, because
they didn't lead their leaders enough".

Such things can be hard to make sense of out of context, so it could
be I'm just thinking of a different organization with different
problems when I read it. But it seems to be all about making managers
lives easier, not the lives of the "smart guys" who it is addressed
to.

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Space Forum / Shuttle / July 2007

Wayne Hale's Letter