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Lisa Nowak, Back in the News

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Steven L. - 15 Jul 2007 02:44 GMT
Nowak Agreeable to Sharing Oefelein with Other Woman
By John A. Torres
FLORIDA TODAY
posted: 10 July 2007
04:53 pm ET

During her initial interview with police, Lisa Nowak asked more than a
dozen times if she could speak with Colleen Shipman, the woman she was
charged with having just attacked, according to a transcript of the
February interrogation.

Nowak said she did not intend to kill Shipman during their Orlando
International Airport encounter. She also pleaded with police to reduce
her charges, asked whether she could go to work after the interview, and
insisted she would have been comfortable sharing the affections of
former astronaut Bill Oefelein with Shipman.

The State Attorney's Office in Orlando released the 72-page transcript
Monday despite the objections of Nowak's attorney, Donald Lykkebak.

There was no mention of Nowak wearing diapers, despite earlier police
reports that she admitted using them to reduce the number of times she'd
have to stop during her drive from Houston to Orlando. Lykkebak has
denied those reports, which he called "a preposterous tale."

According to the transcript, on two occasions she mentioned the prospect
of both she and Shipman dating Oefelein.

 "I don't know that he was in a position of exclusively being with one
person," Nowak said. "As long as everybody knows that that's the case .
. . I mean a single person can go out with as many people as they want .
. . At some point if everyone all knows about that and they're all OK
with it, you don't have to make a choice if everyone's OK."....

She also stressed that just two weeks earlier, Oefelein picked her up
from an airport.

"I mean, you just don't do that for anybody," she said.

http://www.space.com/news/070710_ft_nowak_police.html

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So because Oefelein drove Lisa Nowak home from the airport, she thought
that meant he had fallen in love with her?

The limo drivers in Houston should be thankful she didn't call a limo
service.
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Brian Gaff - 15 Jul 2007 11:25 GMT
I think its all very sad. Over here, we would call this a domestic, but I
imagine the other woman, is pressing charges so  it probably does not matter
what Lisa thought.

Unfortunately, some emotions can make the most apparently level headed
person  into an idiot. A salutary tale and a warning for future long term
space colonies I feel.

I wonder if this sort of stuff happens at Antarctic bases?

Brian

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> Nowak Agreeable to Sharing Oefelein with Other Woman
> By John A. Torres
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> service.
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Danny Deger - 15 Jul 2007 18:26 GMT
>I think its all very sad. Over here, we would call this a domestic, but I
>imagine the other woman, is pressing charges so  it probably does not
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>
> I wonder if this sort of stuff happens at Antarctic bases?

Good question.  I wonder if they stock anti-depressants, anti-psychotic, and
other medications "just in case".  My thought is any trip to Mars should
stock some.

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> Brian
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>> service.
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robert casey - 16 Jul 2007 01:18 GMT
> Good question.  I wonder if they stock anti-depressants, anti-psychotic,
> and other medications "just in case".  My thought is any trip to Mars
> should stock some.

Long term nuclear submarine tours of duty, and even the Shackelton(sp)
and other early Antarctic exploration trips should offer lessons here.
There was that trip to Antarctica where their ship got frozen in the ice
over the water, got crushed, they refitted a lifeboat for some of that
crew to sail to a small group of islands that some whalers were based
in, then went back to get the rest of the crew back in Antarctica.
IIRC, they didn't lose any of that crew.  Surely someone in that crew
had issues one time or another...

And be sure that the bureaucrats don't much up the HAL9000 computer... :-)
hallerb@aol.com - 16 Jul 2007 02:03 GMT
> > Good question.  I wonder if they stock anti-depressants, anti-psychotic,
> > and other medications "just in case".  My thought is any trip to Mars
> > should stock some.

had a friend who spent years in alaska working for GE the contractor
looking for inconing russian bombs. said there was lots of wierd
behavior and thats backed up by my friend and some others I met over
the years.

these sorts of jobs must attract people who go to the beat of a
different drummer.

basically voluntarily locked up 24 / 7 on a island or small base in
turkey
12 hours on 12 hours off for years at a time......

takes a different sort of person.........

drug use was rampant, odd behavior the norm.
Jan Vorbrüggen - 16 Jul 2007 10:27 GMT
> Long term nuclear submarine tours of duty, and even the Shackelton(sp)
> and other early Antarctic exploration trips should offer lessons here.
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> they didn't lose any of that crew.  Surely someone in that crew had
> issues one time or another...

It was luck that allowed a subgroup to reach the whaling station, and indeed
nobody of the crew was killed. But with regard to interperseonal
relationships, it is widely recognized that it was Shakelton's style of
leadership that made this possible at all.

    Jan
Derek Lyons - 16 Jul 2007 19:31 GMT
>> Good question.  I wonder if they stock anti-depressants, anti-psychotic,
>> and other medications "just in case".  My thought is any trip to Mars
>> should stock some.
>
>Long term nuclear submarine tours of duty, and even the Shackelton(sp)
>and other early Antarctic exploration trips should offer lessons here.

Yes.  Comparing apples to oranges is almost always a useful method of
deductive reasoning.

D.
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robert casey - 17 Jul 2007 03:46 GMT
> Yes.  Comparing apples to oranges is almost always a useful method of
> deductive reasoning.

The revelant part is that you have a crew of people stuck together for
long periods of time in uncomfortable and maybe dangerous conditions.
That it's a wooden ship just of Antarctica vs a spacecraft going to Mars
is a minor point for this.  No real way to up and quit, and no quick way
to bail out and go home...
chuck - 16 Jul 2007 19:38 GMT
>> Good question.  I wonder if they stock anti-depressants, anti-psychotic,
>> and other medications "just in case".  My thought is any trip to Mars
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>IIRC, they didn't lose any of that crew.  Surely someone in that crew
>had issues one time or another...

The ship was the "Endurance", and the story is told in the book of the same
name. If I ran this world that book would be required reading for every American
man, woman & child at least once a decade, especially for members of minority
groups. Everyone was required to pull their weight(often literally) and whining
wasn't tolerated.
Danny Deger - 16 Jul 2007 20:06 GMT
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> The ship was the "Endurance", and the story is told in the book of the
> same
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> minority
> groups.

I didn't know you were a racial bigot.

Danny Deger
 
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