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Ethics and young astronauts.

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Brian Gaff - 20 May 2007 10:03 GMT
Well, one of the replies on the recent  press event last Thursday was to do
with how does the space environment  affect the natural cycle of women, and
do men get affected at all.

The reply was one I'd not heard before, that the reason why older women fly
is that their cycle is suppressed, and that really more work needs to be
done in this area.

It struck me as an impending problem, as its inconceivable that when people
need to travel in space more, that young women  hwill not be there.

On the one hand, it needs research, and on the other, is it ethical to use
women who have still to reproduce, risk problems in this way?

Surely by now, enough mammals have been flown to get a good idea of what the
problems might be and some kind of  mitigation strategy used?

As for men, I never heard an answer...:-)

Brian

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Steven L. - 23 May 2007 04:24 GMT
> Well, one of the replies on the recent  press event last Thursday was to do
> with how does the space environment  affect the natural cycle of women, and
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> is that their cycle is suppressed, and that really more work needs to be
> done in this area.

The FDA has just approved Lybrel, the first medication that actually
stops menstrual periods *indefinitely*.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/23/business/23period.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

It doesn't work perfectly on all women, but when it does, it means that
female astronauts on long-duration space missions will be able to avoid
that whole messy menstruation problem (along with the monthly bad
feelings) for the duration of the mission--even many months.

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Brian Gaff - 23 May 2007 10:43 GMT
Yeah, but  the problem seems to be that if we do go off Earth and want to
reproduce out there, sooner or later someone has to conceive and give birth
in space, and htis is where ethics comes in, as we are talking making a
choice for an as yet unconceived person.

Brian

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>> Well, one of the replies on the recent  press event last Thursday was to
>> do with how does the space environment  affect the natural cycle of
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> that whole messy menstruation problem (along with the monthly bad
> feelings) for the duration of the mission--even many months.
Jim Priddy - 23 May 2007 18:02 GMT
> Yeah, but  the problem seems to be that if we do go off Earth and want to
> reproduce out there, sooner or later someone has to conceive and give
> birth in space, and htis is where ethics comes in, as we are talking
> making a choice for an as yet unconceived person.
>
> Brian

But hasn't this been true for every baby ever born?
Won't it continue to be true for every baby to be born?
And isn't it also true for every potential baby unconceived?

Curmudgeon
Brian Gaff - 23 May 2007 18:57 GMT
I think the point is one of degree, do we really know what will happen to a
human  conceived and born in a space environment? If we do, then why the
comment that was made in the  interview about older women only being flown?

Its interesting to note that the Russian girl flown, went on to have healthy
babies, but the exposure was not very long.

Brian

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>> Yeah, but  the problem seems to be that if we do go off Earth and want to
>> reproduce out there, sooner or later someone has to conceive and give
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>
> Curmudgeon
Greg D. Moore (Strider) - 24 May 2007 20:02 GMT
> Well, one of the replies on the recent  press event last Thursday was to
> do with how does the space environment  affect the natural cycle of women,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> fly is that their cycle is suppressed, and that really more work needs to
> be done in this area.

I suspect this reasoning is a bit post-hoc.

In reality, the largest reason older women fly is because it takes years to
get the skills that are required to become an Commander/Pilot or MS.

> It struck me as an impending problem, as its inconceivable that when
> people need to travel in space more, that young women  hwill not be there.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Brian

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