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Space Forum / Shuttle / January 2007Pointer: The Real Stuff -- Shuttle documentary at abd and abmd
This was just posted at alt.binaries.documentaries and alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries. It is a great documentary from 1987. Many of you may remember this show. It includes footage inside the MCC at the moment Cleon Lacefield made the "Abort To Orbit" call during the ascent of mission 51-F. Some great interviews of the astronauts, Max Faget, Gene Krantz, etc From the .nfo file: Narrated by James Reston, Jr. A documentary about the space shuttle highlighting its dramatic history from 1981 to 1986 with astronauts John Young, Rick Hauck, Hoot Gibson, Hank Hartsfield, Roy Bridges, Joe Allen, and Dick Covey. Also interviewed are shuttle designer Max Faget, and various other astronauts and some of their wives. This is a deeply personal, intimate account of what it was like to fly the most advanced and amazing launch vehicle / spacecraft / airplane ever created by mankind. The emphasis is on those golden days before the Challenger accident, but the accident is included as well as the efforts to recover from this first devastating in-flight loss of American astronauts. This PBS documentary includes very rare footage of actual real-time events inside Mission Control during the STS-51F Abort To Orbit launch, as well as the actual footage of the controllers experiencing the sudden impact of the 51-L launch tragedy. An epilogue by then PBS correspondent Judy Woodruff completes the show (I never previously realized how stunningly attractive Ms. Woodruff was during her heyday). This is a VHS-to-VCD conversion so the entire video is rather grainy. Please view the preview if you are concerned about its visual quality. The content of the show is so gripping that the video quality, to me, is a very, very, minor factor. Link? > This was just posted at alt.binaries.documentaries and > alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries. It is a great documentary from > 1987. > Link? > >> This was just posted at alt.binaries.documentaries and >> alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries. It is a great documentary from >> 1987. Um, he gave you the newsgroup names. What more do you want? :-)  SignatureHerb Schaltegger "You can run on for a long time . . . sooner or later, God'll cut you down." - Johnny Cash <http://www.angryherb.net> I went to both groups and did not find it. Jim in Houston >> Link? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Um, he gave you the newsgroup names. What more do you want? :-) >> Link? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Um, he gave you the newsgroup names. What more do you want? :-) Downloading binaries from Usenet is a bit of a black art to those of us who are used to just clicking links. Brian probably wants to see if he's in the video... he was an Ascent FDO back in the day. I haven't watched the documentary yet but I'd guess there are a lot of shots of the back of his head in there. :-) Brian, your headers indicate you're using Mozilla 5.0. I'd recommend another newsreader that has better handling of multipart binaries, such as XNews (which I use) or Agent. Once you've got that, subscribe to alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries just like you subscribed to sci.space.shuttle. (I picked alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries since it has fewer articles than alt.binaries.documentaries, so the headers will take less time to download). Once you've downloaded the headers, the documentary in question has a subject line starting with: PBS Frontline docu -- The Space Shuttle -- yenc -- Select them all and download them. The main video is in .rar format, which is like .zip but can archive across multiple files. You'll need a RAR application (like WinRAR) to extract the video file from the RAR files. If your Usenet service is not great, some of the RAR files may be incomplete. That's where the PAR2 files come in... they are parity files that can be used to repair incomplete files. You will need to download a PAR2 application like QuickPAR to repair the RAR files. If your Usenet service is bad enough, there may not be enough PAR2 blocks to repair all the broken RAR files. In that case, you are out of luck unless you subscribe to a premium Usenet service like Giganews or Easynews. The video is in VCD format. Once you have the video file, you'll need to burn it to CD-R in VCD format in order to play it. Most CD burning software supports VCD and most DVD players can play VCDs. SignatureJRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. > Downloading binaries from Usenet is a bit of a black art to those of us > who are used to just clicking links. (snipped much good stuff) My Usenet provider is Newguy and all files are there (including the PAR2 files). I downloaded all the binary attachments with Hogwasher for OS X and assembled/decoded the .mpg file with MacPAR Deluxe - no sweat. :-) You CAN burn it to a VCD if you want, but QuickTime plays it just fine off the disk. SignatureHerb Schaltegger "You can run on for a long time . . . sooner or later, God'll cut you down." - Johnny Cash <http://www.angryherb.net> >>>Link? >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Downloading binaries from Usenet is a bit of a black art to those of us > who are used to just clicking links... Thanks Jorge...I don't have time to do much w/ Usenet these days 'cept monitor the S/N here! I really don't recall a video guy being there that day, but now I think about it, he was *always* there...he was good at keeping out of the way, lest he find his lens up his ---. Much appreciated. BP What actually happened in the STS-51F Abort To Orbit launch,...any links or information??? John John >>>> This was just posted at alt.binaries.documentaries and >>>> alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries. It is a great documentary [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Downloading binaries from Usenet is a bit of a black art to those of us >who are used to just clicking links. Hell, downloading binaries from Usenet is a bit of a black art to those of us who are used to downloading binaries from Usenet. D. SignatureTouch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings. Oct 5th, 2004 JDL Is "Pointer: The Real Stuff" the name of the documentary? I am asking because I want to find the tape or CD. I don't want to DL it. I have tried to DL binaries and can't seem to get the hang of it. Have to have this reader and that compiler etc... and I just have no idea about yenc. I just want to watch the movie. Thanks. Jim >>>>> This was just posted at alt.binaries.documentaries and >>>>> alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries. It is a great documentary [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > D. > Is "Pointer: The Real Stuff" the name of the documentary? > I am asking because I want to find the tape or CD. I don't want to DL it. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks. > Jim The name of the documentary is "The Real Stuff." I think by "Pointer:" the original poster was pointing us at his upload, like saying "Heads Up" or "Atttention." Depending on what newsreader you use, binaries can be simple or incredibly complex. This one appears to be worth it, however. "Jorge R. Frank" <jrfrank@ibm-pc.borg> wrote stuff Jorge, was it Cleon that made that ATO call, or somebody else, of another gender? It was Jenny Howard, right? How did Cleon's name get associated with the call? As you may recall, the engine failure (sensor problem really) led to the ATO abort. I assume Booster (Jenny) was responsible for announcing that. I don't know enough about the MCC to know who actually tracks the abort regions (FIDO?), all I know is that, in the movie, its the Flight Director who tells CAPCOM who then calls to the crew Abort ATO. And although its over 20 years ago, when I look at the movie, and they show the Flight Director, that person, to me, looks like Cleon. Maybe I'm wrong. The movie focuses also on a later decision made during that same ascent. One of the sensors on one of the remaining engines goes bad and Jenny calls for the engine limits switch to go to inhibit to avoid a second engine out. She passes that on to the Flight Director and the movie shows that call being passed up to the crew via the CAPCOM. A rather exciting 9 minutes. I'm sure Gene Krantz was proud of everybody. > As you may recall, the engine failure (sensor problem really) led to > the ATO abort. I assume Booster (Jenny) was responsible for > announcing that. I don't know enough about the MCC to know who > actually tracks the abort regions (FIDO?), all I know is that, in the > movie, its the Flight Director who tells CAPCOM who then calls to the > crew Abort ATO. Yes, FDO makes the abort boundary calls. > And although its over 20 years ago, when I look at the movie, and they > show the Flight Director, that person, to me, looks like Cleon. Maybe [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > A rather exciting 9 minutes. I'm sure Gene Krantz was proud of > everybody. Lacefield was indeed the Ascent/Entry flight director for 51F. John Cox was Lead, Al Pennington and Lee Briscoe were the other two Orbit flight directors. Gene Kranz was MOD. Post-flight, the honor of hanging the plaque at Mission Control went to FDO/Brian Perry & BOOSTER/Jenny Howard (now Stein). Brian, if you have trouble downloading the video, let me know and I'll find a way to get you a copy. SignatureJRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. snip > Brian, if you have trouble downloading the video, let me know and I'll > find > a way to get you a copy. How about youtube? Danny Deger "Danny Deger" <dannydeger@hotmail.com> wrote in news:45ad9221$0$27097 $4c368faf@roadrunner.com: > snip > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How about youtube? Nah, too much quality loss from re-encoding it in their FLV format, plus you can't watch it on TV unless your PC is hooked up to it. I was going to offer to snail-mail the VCD, if it came down to that. SignatureJRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. Hi Jorge, > Brian, if you have trouble downloading the video, let me know and I'll > find a way to get you a copy. Thank you sir...Is there somewhere I can contact you outside this NG? BP [posted and mailed] Brian Perry <bdperry@binarystarltd.com> wrote in news:vkwrh.3260$hi7.2864 @trnddc08: > Hi Jorge, > > > Brian, if you have trouble downloading the video, let me know and I'll > > find a way to get you a copy. > > Thank you sir...Is there somewhere I can contact you outside this NG? I'll try emailing you. If the address in your headers (bdperry@binarystarltd.com) isn't a good address to reach you, let me know. SignatureJRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. > Brian, if you have trouble downloading the video, let me know and I'll > find a way to get you a copy. A lurker on the group has graciously agreed to host the files for direct download: <http://www.netwrx1.net/georgek/The_Real_Stuff> SignatureJRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. |
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