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Space Forum / Shuttle / September 2006Wayne Hale is good
Danny Dot wrote: Is it just me or is Wayne Hale good at explaining things in "plain English". I worked at NASA for 15 years so I know the jargon. Because I speak "NASA jargon", I may not be a good judge on him not using jargon, but I believe he doesn't. I do know every piece of technical information he has given out, as far as I know, has been perfect. This is a rare gift. Don't use jargon, just use English, but be technically correct. I think he may be one of the best press briefers NASA has ever had. Danny Dot www.mobbinggonemad.org [...] > I think he may be one of the best press briefers NASA has ever had. As a wannabee, I've picked up a fair amount of jargon too, but he sounds good to me. And patient with the press, if today's briefing after the MMT mtg was any indication. One thing I missed -- due to the acoustical environment at my end (audio debris? ;-} ) was the reasons late inspection isn't base-lined in on future flights. I'm guessing he said 'workload" as one reason, and "statistical model" seemed to be part of another reasion, but did he also say that waving the arm and boom around was a potential hazard? /dps Danny Dot wrote: > One thing I missed -- due to the acoustical environment at my end > (audio debris? ;-} ) was the reasons late inspection isn't base-lined [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > /dps Yes he did say it is a hazard. And it is. The thermal protection on the nose cap and the leading edge of the wings is very fragile. While the hazard is not large, there is a non-zero hazard. Danny [...] > Yes he did say it is a hazard. And it is. The thermal protection on the > nose cap and the leading edge of the wings is very fragile. While the > hazard is not large, there is a non-zero hazard. I need to go back in the archives and see how close the sensors have to be -- doesn't the LIDAR sensor have to be quite close? The regular video cams can stand back a bit farther, though. /dps > and "statistical model" seemed to be part of another reasion, but did > he also say that waving the arm and boom around was a potential hazard? This morning, I watched as they did a scan of wings. Going from one scan to the other involved moving the arm in such a way that there were times where nobody would have proper view to ensure nothing touched the orbiter. So they were basically blindly moving the arm "by the numbers" for a short period of time. So I can see why they would want to reduce such operations. Or, computerize the whole process with plenty of safe guards in case a joint failed. Then sit back and watch. I thought the infra-red on the transition from day to night and back gave the best information on the health of the RCC. If they truely are worried about orbital debris, I would think that doing the scan as close to the deorbit burn is important. Leave two crew members up all night, if that's what it takes.  SignatureCraig Fink Courtesy E-Mail Welcome @ WeBeGood@GMail.Com -- >> and "statistical model" seemed to be part of another reasion, but did >> he also say that waving the arm and boom around was a potential hazard? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > for a short period of time. So I can see why they would want to reduce > such operations. No, it's not just you, I like Wayne Hale too. From statements he made after the Columbia Disaster to how he talks about the what's going on in the Shuttle Program now. He seems like a genuinely good guy. SignatureCraig Fink Courtesy E-Mail Welcome @ WeBeGood@GMail.Com -- > Danny Dot wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I think he may be one of the best press briefers NASA has ever had. Danny Dot wrote: > No, it's not just you, I like Wayne Hale too. From statements he made > after the Columbia Disaster to how he talks about the what's going on in > the Shuttle Program now. He seems like a genuinely good guy. He IS a genuinely good guy. I went head to head against him on re-enabling limits after an engine failure on asent. But I am certain he was presenting what he thought was safest, i.e. keep them inhibited. He did listen to all sides of the story and encourgaed the dissenting opinion to be presented to him. I never felt disagreeing with him would hurt my career. I can't say this is true for most flight directors. With most flight directors you feel compelled to agree. Not with Wayne. He honestly wants to hear all sides of the story before he makes a decision. Also remember he, own his own, asked Department of Defence for spy satellitee pictures of Columbia after he knew about the debri strike. We need people with initiative in his possition. I do think he made a couple of "agressive" calls with regards to weather on entry when he was an ascent/entry flight director, e.g. STS-37 landed short of the runway. It is also my opinion he learned from these calls and listens "more closely" to his team than he did then. BTW, does anyone know what the current rule on engine limit inhibit on ascent is? >> Danny Dot wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> I think he may be one of the best press briefers NASA has ever had. Yup, and he is an enthusiast, which I think is why he takes the trouble. Brian SignatureBrian Gaff - briang1@blueyonder.co.uk Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. > Danny Dot wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Danny Dot > www.mobbinggonemad.org > Yup, and he is an enthusiast, which I think is why he takes the trouble. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> Danny Dot >> www.mobbinggonemad.org Someone else here who frequents this group found this several weeks ago, but its a pretty good interview by NPR of Mr Hale... especially like what he thinks he might do if he wasnt working for NASA... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5522536 Danny Dot wrote: > Someone else here who frequents this group found this several weeks ago, > but its a pretty good interview by NPR of Mr Hale... especially like what > he thinks he might do if he wasnt working for NASA... > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5522536 Thanks for the link. NASA has a good asset in Mr. Hale. I recommend everyone in this group to listen to what Mr. Hale says in this link. Danny Dot > Danny Dot wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Danny Dot Damn. Windows-only proprietary crap. Which is a shame because I was really interested in hearing it. He *is* a good guy. -gc SignatureIt's unfortunate, but the way the American people are, now that they have developed all this capability, instead of taking advantage of it, they'll probably just piss it all away. -- President Lyndon Johnson, on the Apollo program [...] > Thanks for the link. NASA has a good asset in Mr. Hale. I recommend > everyone in this group to listen to what Mr. Hale says in this link. Dwayne Day has evidently been scanning the group: <http://thespacereview.com/article/709/1> "Wayne Hale: one of the good guys by Dwayne A. Day Monday, September 25, 2006" /dps > Dwayne Day has evidently been scanning the group: Or independently coming to the same sage conclusions ;-} /dps |
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