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Space Forum / Shuttle / September 2006Soyuz launch video much better than shuttle's!
Why don't the shuttle launch videos ever show much video of inside the cabin? The Soyuz launch video puts you inside the cabin from the moment the rocket lights all the way until they are well in orbit! And the quality of the video is pretty good. Its bad a.s and really cool to watch. The perspective is awesome. Much better than watching some little white dot moving across the sky (shuttle). If the Russians can do it, certaintly NASA should not only be able to do it to but also do it in high definition! Yes, I want the eye candy! I was thinking the exact same thing while watching last night! I don't have access to NASA TV, so I watch the streaming video. This mission is the first time I have spent very much time watching it and many times I think "man, NASA's PR bunch just absolutely misses the point". There is so much cool footage they could be showing, but they will show the boards at MCC, and even at that, they are unreadable on streaming. Even when they do post the extremely cool SRB videos, they either put them in a crappy format, or stuff them away on some streaming site so you can't download them (I know Chuck there are ways... ;) ). As a taxpayer, I feel like this is my property and I ought to be able to download as high a resolution as I want. NASA, are you listening????  SignatureDavid Stribling Remove the 2x to reply > Why don't the shuttle launch videos ever show much video of inside the > cabin? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Yes, I want the eye candy! >I was thinking the exact same thing while watching last night! I don't >have access to NASA TV, so I watch the streaming video. This mission is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > NASA, are you listening???? Got to agree with that, why don't they make all the HD footage available as well - it's taxpayers money that paid for it! And while we're about it, how about a 24/7 streaming webcam from the ISS looking down on the earth? That would be cool. >Got to agree with that, why don't they make all the HD footage available as >well - it's taxpayers money that paid for it! > >And while we're about it, how about a 24/7 streaming webcam from the ISS >looking down on the earth? That would be cool. Very cool and they should have done it years ago. Bandwidth's can't be that expensive. I always thought they missed a chance with Walter Cronkite. I'd have loved to have seen him do a newscast from space, with all of the imagery being the earth below. Might have changed some people's persepectives on things. Keith >>Got to agree with that, why don't they make all the HD footage available >>as >>well - it's taxpayers money that paid for it! >>And while we're about it, how about a 24/7 streaming webcam from the ISS >>looking down on the earth? That would be cool. > Very cool and they should have done it years ago. Bandwidth's can't be > that > expensive. The fact that the view is of the earth moving slowly beneath would mean you'd get extremely good motion compression I would imagine, even at reasonable resolution. And it would have far more impact on more people than any number of obscure microgravity experiments. I'd have it as my permanent screensaver:) > reasonable resolution. > > And it would have far more impact on more people than any number of obscure > microgravity experiments. I'd have it as my permanent screensaver:) wasnt triana built but never launched for real time video of earth? cause it was al gores pet project? > >And while we're about it, how about a 24/7 streaming webcam from the ISS > >looking down on the earth? That would be cool. > > > Very cool and they should have done it years ago. Bandwidth's can't be that > expensive. NASA TV between flights shows lots of this sort of video, from the payload bay cams. How often do you watch that? > I always thought they missed a chance with Walter Cronkite. I'd have loved to > have seen him do a newscast from space, with all of the imagery being the > earth below. Might have changed some people's persepectives on things. I seem to recall (ISTR) that a reporter in space was in the plans for after Teacher In Space, only to be removed from consideration when Challenger came apart. /dps >>>And while we're about it, how about a 24/7 streaming webcam from the ISS >>>looking down on the earth? That would be cool. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > after Teacher In Space, only to be removed from consideration when > Challenger came apart. Miles O'Brien of CNN has said that he was about two weeks away from announcing he was going on the Shuttle when Columbia broke up. They shelved the idea afterward. >> >And while we're about it, how about a 24/7 streaming webcam from the ISS >> >looking down on the earth? That would be cool. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > NASA TV between flights shows lots of this sort of video, from the > payload bay cams. How often do you watch that? It's no good just having it at odd times on NASA TV, now the ISS is established there really is no reason not to have a 24/7 webcam, interrupted only by LOS or maintenance. > Got to agree with that, why don't they make all the HD footage available as > well - it's taxpayers money that paid for it! <snips> I could be imagining things - but I thought that I read someplace some company had done some kind of 'exclusive' deal; they equipped with HD cameras in return for exclusive commercial rights to the HD footage. Am I going crazy or did this deal actually happen? Mike >> Got to agree with that, why don't they make all the HD footage available >> as [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mike It did, and NASA should never have done it. Now the HD footage is only accessible to a very small set of people. >> Got to agree with that, why don't they make all the HD footage available >> as [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mike Yep, a government agency sold exclusive rights for profit. I'm not sure how that works... Otherwise, "Discovery HD Theater" could, should, and probably would cover launches! >I was thinking the exact same thing while watching last night! I don't >have access to NASA TV, so I watch the streaming video. This mission is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > NASA, are you listening???? Exactly. The whole "exclusive rights" for HD video really irks me. Since when does a gub'mint agency get off selling exlusive video rights for profit? > Why don't the shuttle launch videos ever show much video of inside the > cabin? Evidently this camera doesn't get connected to the live feed (there's some serious telemetry traffic going on at that time, but the SRB cams are live). Occasionally, the tape gets onto the Video Gallery, but it may or may not get downlinked during flight. If it sits on the shelf until landing, it probably won't get on the web site. > The Soyuz launch video puts you inside the cabin from the moment the rocket > lights all the way until they are well in orbit! And the quality of the > video is pretty good. > > Its bad a.s and really cool to watch. The perspective is awesome. Much > better than watching some little white dot moving across the sky (shuttle). You don't see much besides launch-and-entry suits. You can tell the light through the window is changing because the helmets go in and out of shadow. You can also see how much smoother the ride is when the SRBs peel away. > If the Russians can do it, certaintly NASA should not only be able to do it > to but also do it in high definition! > > Yes, I want the eye candy! Hey, I like it, too! Tides me over until my ride comes up ;-) /dps >> Why don't the shuttle launch videos ever show much video of inside the >> cabin? [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > /dps Yeah, sometimes (after a launch) they put out short duration video taken from inside the shuttle cabin, buts its always very short. I always wondered why they never show a long video from inside the cabin. The angle isn't all that great (taken from behind the seats), but it would be cool to watch. I've seen video taken from inside the shuttle, looking out a side window, live during a launch but as soon as you really start getting into it they switch to another feed! I forget which launch it was, but one was really cool as you could see the coastline falling away and see the contrails. I give them credit for all the other cool video that they do live, such as the outside shots, but seeing it from a perspective of inside the cabin is really cool. The way that angle the camera (looking downward at the astro^H^H^H^H^H cosmonauts) in the Soyuz launch is like watching a movie (i.e., Apollo 13). Its cool watching their stuff animal "good luck charm" begin to float as they get into orbit... Yep, exactly! I look the inside-cabin video for the same reason.. :^) > Yeah, sometimes (after a launch) they put out short duration video taken > from inside the shuttle cabin, buts its always very short. I always > wondered why they never show a long video from inside the cabin. The > angle They did show T-30s - T+9min video from inside the flight deck with picture looking "down" towards the astronauts on mission STS-112 or STS-113 I think. That video, although not the complete version with numerous abort boundary calls talked by PLT and CDR, should be downloadable on www.insideksc.com when they get their website back to normal service. The complete video was only shown once, and I think it is not available for download anywhere :/ - perhaps nobody managed to capture it. The video that is available, has a significant part of the ascent between SRB separation and 3G-limiting cut out, and that is because the couple of replays of the video were shown that way... SignatureMika Takala Danny Dot wrote: > Yeah, sometimes (after a launch) they put out short duration video taken > from inside the shuttle cabin, buts its always very short. I always [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Yep, exactly! I look the inside-cabin video for the same reason.. :^) As an astronaut instructor during simulation runs, we wanted video of the crew for the instructors to see. We were told we would not get it based on some type of privacy issues. I suspect something like this for live ascent video. But, NASA should have a full length video clip of ascent somewhere in the archives. If not they should. I saw a couple when I was an instructor. I can tell you most it is pretty boring. First stage shakes a lot, second stage is smooth, the seats "jump" forward at Main Engine Cut Off (MECO). > Danny Dot wrote: > > As an astronaut instructor during simulation runs, we wanted video of > the crew for the instructors to see. We were told we would not get it > based on some type of privacy issues. I suspect something like this > for live ascent video. There are cameras in the Motion Base now... SignatureJRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. Danny Dot wrote: >> Danny Dot wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > There are cameras in the Motion Base now... This is great. I would have loved to have seen the video of Marsh Ivins beating Loren Shiver on the head with the Contengency Abort Cue card after they "died" because Loren didn't obey her on how to run a very compex contengency abort proceedure. Danny Dot www. mobbinggonemad.org P.S. All of these procedures are automated now, thanks to John Young. > Why don't the shuttle launch videos ever show much video of inside the > cabin? > > The Soyuz launch video puts you inside the cabin from the moment the rocket > lights all the way until they are well in orbit! And the quality of the > video is pretty good. With Soyuz, that's all there is. You're inside a can. It ain't pretty like the shuttle. George Evans >> Why don't the shuttle launch videos ever show much video of inside the >> cabin? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > With Soyuz, that's all there is. You're inside a can. It ain't pretty like > the shuttle. Yeah, and it looks like the Soyuz is stuffed full of cargo too. Big bags of stuff all around the Cosmonauts. SignatureCraig Fink Courtesy E-Mail Welcome @ WeBeGood@GMail.Com > Yeah, and it looks like the Soyuz is stuffed full of cargo too. Big bags > of stuff all around the Cosmonauts. Looked a whole lot like when we used to pack up the Caravan w/ the 4 kids to go to grandma's ;^) >> Yeah, and it looks like the Soyuz is stuffed full of cargo too. Big bags >> of stuff all around the Cosmonauts. > > Looked a whole lot like when we used to pack up the Caravan w/ the 4 kids to > go to grandma's ;^) That's why the Russians gave up on Buran, it didn't feel right, too roomy. George Evans > Yeah, and it looks like the Soyuz is stuffed full of cargo too. Big bags > of stuff all around the Cosmonauts. Looked a whole lot like when we used to pack up the Caravan w/ the 4 kids to go to grandma's ;^) >> Why don't the shuttle launch videos ever show much video of inside the >> cabin? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > With Soyuz, that's all there is. You're inside a can. It ain't pretty like > the shuttle. No, the "cabin" (reentry module) is actually the smaller of the two modules. What you don't see is the (larger) orbital module. Still, much smaller than the Shuttle. Jochem Signature"A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery > Why don't the shuttle launch videos ever show much video of inside the > cabin? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Yes, I want the eye candy! Could you please provide me with the link to this video? I would like to see it. Thank you very much DB > Why don't the shuttle launch videos ever show much video of inside the > cabin? > > The Soyuz launch video puts you inside the cabin from the moment the rocket > lights all the way until they are well in orbit! And the quality of the > video is pretty good. Oh yeah, baby, watch them flip those check list pages! /dps (Sorry, I think it's an interesting video, but hardly eye-candy -- you don't see much besides the gloves waving and the pages fluttering.) |
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