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Brian Gaff - 02 Jul 2006 16:42 GMT
Well, the weather is, as we UK folk call it, Pants' at the Cape by the sound
of it, why are they bothering? Do they know something  we don't?

Brian

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Simon Howson - 02 Jul 2006 16:59 GMT
> Well, the weather is, as we UK folk call it, Pants' at the Cape by the sound
> of it, why are they bothering? Do they know something  we don't?
>
> Brian

This: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?product=NCR&rid=mlb&loop=yes 
Looks a lot worse than when I was watching yesterday.

Simon Howson
Craig Fink - 02 Jul 2006 17:11 GMT
>> Well, the weather is, as we UK folk call it, Pants' at the Cape by the sound
>> of it, why are they bothering? Do they know something  we don't?
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> This: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?product=NCR&rid=mlb&loop=yes 
> Looks a lot worse than when I was watching yesterday.

Yeah, much worse. How many tanking tests do they need?

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Simon Howson - 02 Jul 2006 17:52 GMT
> Yeah, much worse. How many tanking tests do they need?

No idea. But currently the following whether tests are "no go":

"due to violations of the lightning, electrical charge potential,
cumulus cloud and anvil cloud rules."

Didn't yesterday fail 'only' due to lightning and anvil clouds?

Simon Howson
Brian Gaff - 02 Jul 2006 18:18 GMT
I think the only reason they tried today was to see if they could get a 4th
July docking, or am I being cynical again...:-)

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>>> Well, the weather is, as we UK folk call it, Pants' at the Cape by the
>>> sound
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>
> Yeah, much worse. How many tanking tests do they need?
Simon Howson - 02 Jul 2006 18:29 GMT
> I think the only reason they tried today was to see if they could get a 4th
> July docking, or am I being cynical again...:-)
>
> Brian

Isn't a 4th of July launch even more impressive?

Simon Howson
Joe Delphi - 02 Jul 2006 17:43 GMT
>> Well, the weather is, as we UK folk call it, Pants' at the Cape by the
>> sound of it, why are they bothering? Do they know something  we don't?
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>
> Simon Howson

I agree, but the weather changes rapidly in Florida - especially this time
of year.  Never know when they will hit a window of blue skies and bright
sunshine that just might coincide with the launch window.

JD
Simon Howson - 02 Jul 2006 18:21 GMT
> I agree, but the weather changes rapidly in Florida - especially this time
> of year.  Never know when they will hit a window of blue skies and bright
> sunshine that just might coincide with the launch window.

Damn, the weather didn't change fast enough...

Simon Howson
Brian Gaff - 02 Jul 2006 18:17 GMT
Well, not being able to see, just the description from the area looks bad,
and I see they have now scrubbed.

Brian

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>> Well, the weather is, as we UK folk call it, Pants' at the Cape by the
>> sound of it, why are they bothering? Do they know something  we don't?
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>
> Simon Howson
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andr=E9,_Pe1PQX?= - 02 Jul 2006 18:19 GMT
Brian Gaff schreef :
> Well, not being able to see, just the description from the area looks bad,
> and I see they have now scrubbed.
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>>
>> Simon Howson

Again a scrub for today's attempt, due to bad weather (again)

Next teusday (july 4th) ther will try again, time: 2:38 ET
Craig Fink - 02 Jul 2006 17:09 GMT
I'm sorry your going to have to explain your British slang to us here
on the other side of the Atlantic.

Pants' at the Cape?

> Well, the weather is, as we UK folk call it, Pants' at the Cape by the sound
> of it, why are they bothering? Do they know something  we don't?
>
> Brian

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Brian Gaff - 02 Jul 2006 18:22 GMT
I cannot explain it any more than any other slang term, who knows the
derivation, but when things look bad they are described as 'pants' You have
to realise that the word pants over here means underpants, not trousers.

Underpants tend to get  messy, just a thought, hope you were not eating your
lunch.

:-)

Brian

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> I'm sorry your going to have to explain your British slang to us here
> on the other side of the Atlantic.
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>> Brian
Craig Fink - 02 Jul 2006 18:31 GMT
lol, explanation is perfectly clear, well maybe clear isn't the right
word.

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> I cannot explain it any more than any other slang term, who knows the
> derivation, but when things look bad they are described as 'pants' You
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>
> Brian
Brian Thorn - 02 Jul 2006 17:26 GMT
>Well, the weather is, as we UK folk call it, Pants' at the Cape by the sound
>of it, why are they bothering? Do they know something  we don't?

Yes. They know "If you don't like the weather in Florida, wait five
minutes."  :-)

Brian
Brian Gaff - 02 Jul 2006 18:23 GMT
Well, they say that about the Weather in the UK too, it has a lot to do with
peninsulars and islands obviously.

Brian

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>>Well, the weather is, as we UK folk call it, Pants' at the Cape by the
>>sound
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>
> Brian
MichaelJP - 03 Jul 2006 11:21 GMT
> Well, the weather is, as we UK folk call it, Pants' at the Cape by the
> sound of it, why are they bothering? Do they know something  we don't?
>
> Brian

Also, as this flight has to launch in only a 10 minute window due to ISS
docking, it does seem very unlikely that they will go anytime the weather is
in this pattern.

As this pattern is typical for Florida in summer, we could be in for a lot
more scrubs!
Jorge R. Frank - 03 Jul 2006 14:02 GMT
> As this pattern is typical for Florida in summer, we could be in for a
> lot more scrubs!

The ISS launch window shifts earlier each day by an average of 24 minutes,
so soon the launch window will be in the morning when there is a lower
chance of thunderstorms.

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Simon Howson - 03 Jul 2006 14:03 GMT
> As this pattern is typical for Florida in summer, we could be in for a lot
> more scrubs!

Is it true if they can't do it by Thursday then they won't try again
until August?

Simon Howson
Jorge R. Frank - 03 Jul 2006 14:03 GMT
>> As this pattern is typical for Florida in summer, we could be in for
>> a lot more scrubs!
>
> Is it true if they can't do it by Thursday then they won't try again
> until August?

No. The end of the window is July 19.

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Simon Howson - 03 Jul 2006 17:17 GMT
>>> As this pattern is typical for Florida in summer, we could be in for
>>> a lot more scrubs!
>> Is it true if they can't do it by Thursday then they won't try again
>> until August?
>
> No. The end of the window is July 19.

Cool, thanks.

Simon Howson
 
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