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super agency merge RSA,ESA  JSA , NASA, et al

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Lynndel K. Humphreys - 13 Nov 2005 23:24 GMT
Create a super agency by merging NASA,Japanese Space Agency, Russian Space
Agency ,European Space Agency, Chinese, and anyone else (India, Korea) with
space capability into the Global Space Administration. Independent of their
respective governments they would design and build a super shuttle. Free of
governmental demands it would be a beautiful ship to behold I am sure.

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Bob Haller - 14 Nov 2005 00:28 GMT
ALL governments would squabble, fight over funding, where to produce
stuff etc.

Look at ISS, then tell me this is a good idea:(
Adam Przybyla - 14 Nov 2005 08:54 GMT
> ALL governments would squabble, fight over funding, where to produce
> stuff etc.
>
> Look at ISS, then tell me this is a good idea:(
    ... ISS is wonderful idea but merging all that agencies it's not good idea;-) Regards
                                Adam Przybyla
Brian Gaff - 14 Nov 2005 11:47 GMT
Na, The French would never agree.

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> Create a super agency by merging NASA,Japanese Space Agency, Russian Space
> Agency ,European Space Agency, Chinese, and anyone else (India, Korea)
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> of
> governmental demands it would be a beautiful ship to behold I am sure.
Neil Gerace - 14 Nov 2005 15:50 GMT
> Na, The French would never agree.

Plus NASA would have to learn to use SI.
Brian Thorn - 14 Nov 2005 19:56 GMT
>Na, The French would never agree.

Irrelevant. If anyone threatens them, they'll just surrender...   :-)

Brian
Rémy MERCIER - 15 Nov 2005 01:21 GMT
Brian Thorn Wrote:

> Na, The French would never agree.
>
> Irrelevant. If anyone threatens them, they'll just surrender...   :-)
>
> Brian

yes, like the french Villepin in U.N (about Irak).... and the worl
applaud!...
(I remember... so nice... this sound...).
and to show in classrooms... for many generations... everywhere in th
world...
Rém

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Jeff Findley - 14 Nov 2005 16:49 GMT
> Create a super agency by merging NASA,Japanese Space Agency, Russian Space
> Agency ,European Space Agency, Chinese, and anyone else (India, Korea) with
> space capability into the Global Space Administration. Independent of their
> respective governments they would design and build a super shuttle. Free of
> governmental demands it would be a beautiful ship to behold I am sure.

Without any accountability, which is what you get when you're "free of
governmental demands", it's far more likely to do nothing of significance.

Jeff
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Bob Haller - 14 Nov 2005 17:08 GMT
hey a first! We all agree this will not work!

One for the record books!
Fred J. McCall - 18 Nov 2005 13:15 GMT
:> Create a super agency by merging NASA,Japanese Space Agency, Russian Space
:> Agency ,European Space Agency, Chinese, and anyone else (India, Korea) with
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:Without any accountability, which is what you get when you're "free of
:governmental demands", it's far more likely to do nothing of significance.

Accountability isn't the issue.  MONEY is the issue.  Where's the
funding for this wet dream supposed to be coming from, again?

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Brian Thorn - 14 Nov 2005 20:00 GMT
>Create a super agency by merging NASA,Japanese Space Agency, Russian Space
>Agency ,European Space Agency, Chinese, and anyone else (India, Korea) with
>space capability into the Global Space Administration. Independent of their
>respective governments they would design and build a super shuttle. Free of
>governmental demands it would be a beautiful ship to behold I am sure.

Hell, ESA can't even get its member states to agree (France wants
emphasis on Ariane, Germany wants more man-in-space, England... well,
England doesn't seem to want anything.) How will a worldwide ESA ever
get anything done?

Sounds like a U.N. in space, and the U.N. never accomplishes anything.

(Nevermind that NASA"s budget is double that of all the others,
combined. So the US has little incentive to go along.)

Brian
Neil Gerace - 15 Nov 2005 00:45 GMT
> Sounds like a U.N. in space, and the U.N. never accomplishes anything.

Airbus has accomplished quite a lot :)
Brian Thorn - 15 Nov 2005 01:21 GMT
>> Sounds like a U.N. in space, and the U.N. never accomplishes anything.
>
>Airbus has accomplished quite a lot :)

So has United Technologies. What does that have to do with
governments?

Brian
Neil Gerace - 15 Nov 2005 01:42 GMT
>>> Sounds like a U.N. in space, and the U.N. never accomplishes anything.
>>
>>Airbus has accomplished quite a lot :)
>
> So has United Technologies. What does that have to do with
> governments?

Isn't it obvious? As with Concorde, international agreements had to be made
to allow Airbus to be set up in the first place. Some of the consortium's
members were government-owned, too.
Lynndel K. Humphreys - 15 Nov 2005 22:50 GMT
So if the corporations could form a consortium with the government owned
aerospace entities (if the non corporate entities  aren't companies how are
they referred to other than by name Never had that problem in corporate
Americas.) there would be peace in our time and the
Global Space Administration is a viable dream.
 As I recall the vertical assembly building was built by an international
comsortium. Not sure but think  it was German.

first place. Some of the consortium's
> members were government-owned, too.
Rémy MERCIER - 15 Nov 2005 01:42 GMT
Brian Thorn Wrote:

> Create a super agency by merging NASA,Japanese Space Agency, Russia
> Space
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>
> Brian

Irrelevent for the past and for the future...
Beyond the divergences, the point is the final agreement (and his valu
is greater because of these divergences... not smaller).  
ESA Council meeting at ministerial level: Berlin, 5 - 6 December 2005
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMICOTLWFE_index_0.html

and about $ ... when you know where and how more than 50% of NASA $ ar
lost...  
Rém

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Rémy MERCIER - 14 Nov 2005 21:07 GMT
Lynndel K. Humphreys Wrote:
> Create a super agency by merging NASA,Japanese Space Agency, Russia
> Space
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> ___________________
> wine is better with cheese when I watch Ariane5 takeof

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