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Carol Singer - 29 Jul 2005 09:16 GMT
I understand that there are 6 people very close to the Shuttle in bunkers at
launch to help in any escape.

Has anyone ever spoken to one of these people, what must it be like so close
to the Shuttle at launch.
Brian Gaff - 29 Jul 2005 09:40 GMT
>I understand that there are 6 people very close to the Shuttle in bunkers
>at
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> close
> to the Shuttle at launch.

Pardon, I'm a little deaf, sorry!

:-)

That roast Duck was delicious...

:-)

Brian

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Carol Singer - 29 Jul 2005 09:54 GMT
I hate smart arses like you, either answer the question or go away and die.

> >I understand that there are 6 people very close to the Shuttle in bunkers
> >at
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> Brian

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Jim Oberg - 29 Jul 2005 11:10 GMT
I thought it as pretty funny,
and since you're the supplicant,
you need to show some manners.

I've heard of some folks trying to get in
as close as possible as a macho thing,
but not regularly as an operational safety
thing.

> I hate smart arses like you, either answer the question or go away and die.
Carol Singer - 29 Jul 2005 11:47 GMT
Then let me enlighten you, if the crew need to vacate the Shuttle in an
emergency then they use a rope slide.
There are people inbunkers 6 I believe close to the pad who's job it is to
help the safe escape.

Now all I want to know is what is must be like to be that close to the
Shuttle at launch.

We learn something new everyday and in your case you just learnt something
new today.

> I thought it as pretty funny,
> and since you're the supplicant,
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> > I hate smart arses like you, either answer the question or go away and
> die.
Andromeda et Julie - 29 Jul 2005 13:50 GMT
Carol Singer a écrit :
> Then let me enlighten you, if the crew need to vacate the Shuttle in an
> emergency then they use a rope slide.
> There are people inbunkers 6 I believe close to the pad who's job it is to
> help the safe escape.

yep, and then they have an army tank  hidden somewhere to drive away

I always thought of this as a quite scary procedure , no need to wonder
why this procedure is not on the top of the 'communication agenda'
Greg D. Moore (Strider) - 29 Jul 2005 13:15 GMT
> I hate smart arses like you, either answer the question or go away and die.

Can I suggest lightening up.   And not top-posting.

Anyway, yes, there is a rescue team in an armored personal carrier at the
end of the zipline from the top of the pad.

And my understanding was up until 9/11, they would allow other agency folks
from outside the area to apply to be on a team on a one-shot basis.

Other than the folks in the crew cabin, they're the closest human souls to
the shuttle at launch.

> > >I understand that there are 6 people very close to the Shuttle in bunkers
> > >at
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> > Brian

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Carol Singer - 29 Jul 2005 16:58 GMT
Does anyone know of these people, have we ever heard their story of what its
like to be so close when the Shuttle takes off.

> > I hate smart arses like you, either answer the question or go away and
> die.
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> > >
> > > Brian

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Neil Gerace - 29 Jul 2005 17:33 GMT
> Other than the folks in the crew cabin, they're the closest human souls to
> the shuttle at launch.

There could be lots of other human souls around, without the humans
themselves :)
Greg D. Moore (Strider) - 30 Jul 2005 00:56 GMT
> > Other than the folks in the crew cabin, they're the closest human souls to
> > the shuttle at launch.
>
> There could be lots of other human souls around, without the humans
> themselves :)

Nah, they have strict safety limits they have to follow also.:-)

(and I put HUMAN in that sentence in there figuring some would quibble about
animals having souls or something.  Geesh. :-)
Kim Keller - 30 Jul 2005 04:43 GMT
> Anyway, yes, there is a rescue team in an armored personal carrier at the
> end of the zipline from the top of the pad.

Not really. The fire/rescue team takes up position about a mile down the
crawlerway from the pad, inside an M-113. No one but the astronauts is any
closer.
Greg D. Moore (Strider) - 30 Jul 2005 05:49 GMT
> > Anyway, yes, there is a rescue team in an armored personal carrier at the
> > end of the zipline from the top of the pad.
>
> Not really. The fire/rescue team takes up position about a mile down the
> crawlerway from the pad, inside an M-113. No one but the astronauts is any
> closer.

Umm, Kim, not really what?  My understanding isthe zipline ends at the
M-113.  So what's incorrect about my statement?
LooseChanj - 30 Jul 2005 10:31 GMT
>> Not really. The fire/rescue team takes up position about a mile down the
>> crawlerway from the pad, inside an M-113. No one but the astronauts is any
>> closer.
>
> Umm, Kim, not really what?  My understanding isthe zipline ends at the
> M-113.  So what's incorrect about my statement?

Isn't there one for the astros, and one for the fire/rescue folks?  The one
at the end of the zipline being unmanned.
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Kim Keller - 30 Jul 2005 14:20 GMT
> Umm, Kim, not really what?  My understanding isthe zipline ends at the
> M-113.  So what's incorrect about my statement?

There is an M-113 at the end of the slidewire, which ends just inside the
west perimeter of the pad. That station is unmanned. The fire/rescue crew,
sometimes referred to as the "dead crew" because a blast would likely kill
them, is stationed down the crawlerway about a mile from the pad.
Joe Delphi - 30 Jul 2005 05:55 GMT
> Not really. The fire/rescue team takes up position about a mile down the
> crawlerway from the pad, inside an M-113. No one but the astronauts is any
> closer.

If the Shuttle ascent is an "E-Ticket" then I bet sitting in the M-113
during launch is at least a "D-Ticket".

JD
LooseChanj - 30 Jul 2005 10:30 GMT
> Can I suggest...not top-posting.

Sure, if you admit that not trimming your quotes, which resulted in about 95%
of your post being below what you contributed, is just as bad...
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) - 30 Jul 2005 16:59 GMT
> > Can I suggest...not top-posting.
>
> Sure, if you admit that not trimming your quotes, which resulted in about 95%
> of your post being below what you contributed, is just as bad...

Actually you're right, I should have trimmed that.  mea culpa.
Brian Gaff - 30 Jul 2005 08:04 GMT
its quite OK to dislike my comments, but hate me? Come on, where is your
sense of humour today?

Brian

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>I hate smart arses like you, either answer the question or go away and die.
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Neil Gerace - 29 Jul 2005 17:34 GMT
> That roast Duck was delicious...

Never say 'duck' that close to a rocket :)
C.P Kurz - 31 Jul 2005 04:08 GMT
Neil Gerace schrieb:

> Never say 'duck' that close to a rocket :)

:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))

- Carsten
Neil Gerace - 31 Jul 2005 19:15 GMT
> Neil Gerace schrieb:
>
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>
> - Carsten

Just as when you go on a plane trip somewhere, and the inflight movie is
about to start, you should never say:

"Ah, I don't think I'll watch this movie, it's a bomb."
C.P Kurz - 31 Jul 2005 20:10 GMT
Neil Gerace schrieb:

> Just as when you go on a plane trip somewhere, and the inflight movie is
> about to start, you should never say:
>
> "Ah, I don't think I'll watch this movie, it's a bomb."

I never finish movies on board anway ...

- Carsten
GD - 30 Jul 2005 05:41 GMT
> I understand that there are 6 people very close to the Shuttle in
> bunkers at launch to help in any escape.
>
> Has anyone ever spoken to one of these people...

I'm sure somebody must have done at some time or another.  ;)

Seriously though, theres this invention called "search engines",
and if one bothers using one of them, then one would eventually find
that some useful keywords are "George Hoggard", and "pad rescue team".

Seems to be a few short news articles around.  Maybe you'll find
more than I did if you search harder.
Carl Anderson - 30 Jul 2005 17:55 GMT
<what must it be like so close
<to the Shuttle at launch.

if your close to the shuttle at launch, you be roasted to death...idiot!

> I understand that there are 6 people very close to the Shuttle in bunkers at
> launch to help in any escape.
>
> Has anyone ever spoken to one of these people, what must it be like so close
> to the Shuttle at launch.
 
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