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Space Forum / Shuttle / July 2005Update: 3 hours tanking + movie external tank
windows media stream : http://space44.sp.funpic.de/gigashare8.php Nasa TV live: http://space-tv.6x.to - Realplayer 350/225/150K streams - Windows Media player: 150K stream - replay's 4:45 a.m. - T-3 hours and holding. Good morning, and welcome to the Virtual Launch Control Center. Space Shuttle Discovery is poised for launch at Kennedy Space Center's Launch Pad 39B, and so far the countdown is proceeding smoothly toward a liftoff later this morning at 10:30 a.m. EDT. Fueling of the massive orange External Tank began at 12:48 a.m. with the chilldown thermal conditioning of the propellant lines in preparation for the pumping of 500,000 gallons of super-cold propellants. Tanking began at 1 a.m. and entered stable replenish at 3:39 a.m. EDT. The engine cut-off (ECO) sensors in the External Tank were tested from wet to dry state during the tanking process, and are performing as expected. At this time the Final Inspection Team, also known as the ice team, is conducting its two hour inspection of the launch pad. Another big concern for today -- the weather -- is looking more promising. We're now up to an 80% probability of favorable weather at launch time. http://www.nasa.gov/returntoflight/launch/launch-vlcc.html Is that just after 14.38 gmt, or is that what it is in bst, my brain hurts. I think we should all just adopt the same time and just get used to it.. (Brian who knows this is a physical impossibility, rather like a one dimensional object. B  SignatureBrian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: briang1@blueyonder.co.uk ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > windows media stream : http://space44.sp.funpic.de/gigashare8.php > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > http://www.nasa.gov/returntoflight/launch/launch-vlcc.html lol, that's easy for you to say, your probably sitting within a couple hundred kilometers of Greenwich. SignatureCraig Fink Courtesy E-Mail Welcome @ WeBeGood@GMail.Com > Is that just after 14.38 gmt, or is that what it is in bst, my brain hurts. > I think we should all just adopt the same time and just get used to it.. > (Brian who knows this is a physical impossibility, rather like a one > dimensional object. > Is that just after 14.38 gmt, or is that what it is in bst, my brain hurts. > I think we should all just adopt the same time and just get used to it.. > (Brian who knows this is a physical impossibility, rather like a one > dimensional object. Blame the PAOs again. Listening to the talk between the closeout team and control while the crew were loaded onboard they were using GMT/UTC. Anthony JRS: In article <INoFe.77333$G8.925@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, dated Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:05:12, seen in news:sci.space.shuttle, Brian Gaff <Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> posted : >Is that just after 14.38 gmt, or is that what it is in bst, my brain hurts. The East Coast of the USA is always five hours behind us, except for the March/April week, when they are six hours behind us, and for a few hours near the end of October, when they are only four hours behind us. If you have javascript, you can probably do the conversions at <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/js-date5.htm>. Signature© John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v4.00 MIME. © Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms PAS EXE etc : <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see 00index.htm Dates - miscdate.htm moredate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc. > JRS: In article <INoFe.77333$G8.925@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, dated > Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:05:12, seen in news:sci.space.shuttle, Brian Gaff [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/js-date5.htm>. > And it's going to get weirder because we're about to extend "Daylight Savings Time" to cover most of the year instead of just about half. Signature"Fame may be fleeting but obscurity is forever." ~Anonymous "I believe as little as possible and know as much as I can." ~Todd Stuart Phillips <www.angryherb.net> >> JRS: In article <INoFe.77333$G8.925@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, dated >> Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:05:12, seen in news:sci.space.shuttle, Brian Gaff [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >And it's going to get weirder because we're about to extend "Daylight >Savings Time" to cover most of the year instead of just about half. Completely OT follow-up, but why? And do you have the same problem we do, in that a time zone which is convenient for the south of the country is highly inconvenient in the north? SignatureRemove spam and invalid from address to reply. JRS: In article <0001HW.BF0D37840237EE93F0284550@enews.newsguy.com>, dated Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:07:16, seen in news:sci.space.shuttle, Herb Schaltegger <herb.schaltegger@NOSPAMgmail.com.INVALID> posted : >> The East Coast of the USA is always five hours behind us, except for the >> March/April week, when they are six hours behind us, and for a few hours >> near the end of October, when they are only four hours behind us. >> >> If you have javascript, you can probably do the conversions at >> <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/js-date5.htm>. >And it's going to get weirder because we're about to extend "Daylight >Savings Time" to cover most of the year instead of just about half. Can you (or other) provide a concise but authoritative reference for that? I've seen a mention in Risks Digest. I will need to update, at least, my <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/uksumtim.htm>, some of my js-date*.htm material, and some programs. The rest of the world is frequently annoyed by US-specific date/time habits : the 12-hour clock, MM/DD/YYYY ; it will be amusing to see you annoy yourselves by making so much software (and IIRC hardware) out-of- date, especially if it is done at short notice. IIRC, Canada and Mexico have, for obvious reasons, chosen to use the same change dates as the USA - will they have a democratic voice in the decision? Signature© John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v4.00 MIME. © Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms PAS EXE etc : <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see 00index.htm Dates - miscdate.htm moredate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc. > JRS: In article <0001HW.BF0D37840237EE93F0284550@enews.newsguy.com>, > dated Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:07:16, seen in news:sci.space.shuttle, Herb [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > least, my <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/uksumtim.htm>, some of my > js-date*.htm material, and some programs. <http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/22/congress.daylighttime.ap/> First hit on a Google search for "U.S. daylight savings time extension" . Didn't seem all that difficult to find. > The rest of the world is frequently annoyed by US-specific date/time > habits : the 12-hour clock, MM/DD/YYYY ; And we're annoyed by your continued misspellings of "color". It's tough old world, isn't it? > it will be amusing to see you > annoy yourselves by making so much software (and IIRC hardware) out-of- > date, especially if it is done at short notice. Most modern consumer software syncs to time servers anyway so any change to DST dates are going to make little difference to most folks in a practical sense. > IIRC, Canada and Mexico have, for obvious reasons, chosen to use the > same change dates as the USA - will they have a democratic voice in the > decision? Sure - they can decide to go along with it or not. What other input should they be allowed to have? Hell, some part of the U.S. don't follow DST as it is, so what do we care if Canada or Mexico do? Signature"Fame may be fleeting but obscurity is forever." ~Anonymous "I believe as little as possible and know as much as I can." ~Todd Stuart Phillips <www.angryherb.net> JRS: In article <0001HW.BF0E864702637300F0284550@enews.newsguy.com>, dated Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:55:35, seen in news:sci.space.shuttle, Herb Schaltegger <herb.schaltegger@NOSPAMgmail.com.INVALID> posted : >> Can you (or other) provide a concise but authoritative reference for >> that? I've seen a mention in Risks Digest. I will need to update, at >> least, my <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/uksumtim.htm>, some of my >> js-date*.htm material, and some programs. > ><http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/22/congress.daylighttime.ap/> Well, I asked for "concise". That took 30 seconds or so, then jammed the browser window. >First hit on a Google search for "U.S. daylight savings time extension" >. Didn't seem all that difficult to find. Google searches are always easy if one knows what to search for, As a dial-up user, however, I prefer to use News as a discussion medium, so that poor answers can be corrected by others. Signature© John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v4.00 MIME. © Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms PAS EXE etc : <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see 00index.htm Dates - miscdate.htm moredate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc. JRS: In article <0001HW.BF0E864702637300F0284550@enews.newsguy.com>, dated Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:55:35, seen in news:sci.space.shuttle, Herb Schaltegger <herb.schaltegger@NOSPAMgmail.com.INVALID> posted : >Most modern consumer software syncs to time servers anyway so any >change to DST dates are going to make little difference to most folks >in a practical sense. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Time servers serve a close approximation to the Real Time, GMT. Consumer software will sync the machine's GMT to that, and then display civil time according to the rules currently set in the software and the alleged location. So the time seen on the computer by the user will change on the traditional dates, or so ISTM, until the computer's rules are updated. Computers without a time server link will change on the traditional dates; the user will emit expletives, and change the apparent civil time to what it would have been; when the civil clocks actually should change, the user will emit further expletives and readjust the clock. Some users, no doubt, rather than adjusting the manifest time, will try setting to an adjacent time zone. There will be an overlap period each year during which times generated in "small" computer systems will be extra unreliable. Signature© John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v4.00 MIME. © Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms PAS EXE etc : <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see 00index.htm Dates - miscdate.htm moredate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc. |
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