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launch delay to july possibly in the works

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Jim Oberg - 28 Apr 2005 20:18 GMT
see
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/custom/space/orl-bk-nasa042805,0,3809195
.story?coll=orl-home-headlines
Gareth Slee - 28 Apr 2005 22:11 GMT
> see

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/custom/space/orl-bk-nasa042805,0,3809195
> .story?coll=orl-home-headlines

I'm on vacation (from the UK) in Florida and was hoping to see the Shuttle
on the pad. That could be in danger now I guess?

Still, safety has to be the *No.1* priority.

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Lynndel Humphreys - 29 Apr 2005 19:26 GMT
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/ats-ap_top14apr29,1,2874667.stor
y?coll=sns-newsnation-headlines


"The work means that NASA will have to remove Discovery from the launch pad
and return it to the Vehicle Assembly Building"

Exactly when?

> > see

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/custom/space/orl-bk-nasa042805,0,3809195
> > .story?coll=orl-home-headlines
>
> I'm on vacation (from the UK) in Florida and was hoping to see the Shuttle
> on the pad. That could be in danger now I guess?
>
> Still, safety has to be the *No.1* priority.
Bruce Palmer - 29 Apr 2005 21:18 GMT
>>see
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Still, safety has to be the *No.1* priority.

It sounds like rollback to the VAB could commence at any time starting
this afternoon if that's the decision they make.

Safety has always been the #1 priority.  IMO we have a somewhat
increased safety margin over what we had 3 years ago.  It's difficult to
put a number to it, but I think it's real nonetheless.

On the other hand we have a _much_larger_ quantity of "perceived safety"
above and beyond what we had 3 years ago.  This is what makes me think
that the May launch date is moot at this point.  Even if everything is
ready to fly, the sheer number of open issues in various states of
un-done-ness is enough to warrant a change in the launch date, if for no
other reason than to make it appear as though they're being "even safer".

The latter is for PR and political purposes, but it's the former I
sincerely hope we have enough of to run through 2010 without any more
shuttle disasters.
James - 29 Apr 2005 23:58 GMT
> Safety has always been the #1 priority.  IMO we have a somewhat
> increased safety margin over what we had 3 years ago.  It's difficult to
> put a number to it, but I think it's real nonetheless.

Must be true, NASA hasn't lost a single shuttle in 2 years...

Whatever they've been doing, they should keep doing it.

> On the other hand we have a _much_larger_ quantity of "perceived safety"
> above and beyond what we had 3 years ago.  This is what makes me think
> that the May launch date is moot at this point.  Even if everything is
> ready to fly, the sheer number of open issues in various states of
> un-done-ness is enough to warrant a change in the launch date, if for no
> other reason than to make it appear as though they're being "even safer".

Of  course it's PR. All the PR in the world isn't going to amount to squat
if they lose another one.
snidely - 28 Apr 2005 22:31 GMT
> see

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/custom/space/orl-bk-nasa042805,0,3809195
> .story?coll=orl-home-headlines

What was the result of any observations made during the tanking test?

Also, there must be some documentation of previous icing on this line.
I found

<quote>
The tradition after this struggle was to write our initials in the
accumulated frost of the 18-inch liquid oxygen supply line nearby,"
Whitson wrote. "It's odd the things that make an event real for you,
but writing my initials in this frost was one of those moments. The
frost was about five inches deep, and Valery (Korzun, station
commander) thought we should have a snowball fight while we were
waiting our turn to get in the toilet and orbiter."
</quit>

at
<http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/fl_sts112_preview_021006.html>,
but this is probably GSE rather than the umbilical.

/dps
Lynndel Humphreys - 29 Apr 2005 19:30 GMT
By MARCIA DUNN | AP Aerospace Writer
Posted April 29, 2005, 1:07 PM EDT

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/ats-ap_top14apr29,1,2874667.stor
y?coll=sns-newsnation-headlines


> see

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/custom/space/orl-bk-nasa042805,0,3809195
> .story?coll=orl-home-headlines
Bruce Palmer - 29 Apr 2005 21:20 GMT
> By MARCIA DUNN | AP Aerospace Writer
> Posted April 29, 2005, 1:07 PM EDT
>
> http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/ats-ap_top14apr29,1,2874667.stor
y?coll=sns-newsnation-headlines

That link took me directly to a story about a "Mermaid baby" in Peru.
Lynndel Humphreys - 30 Apr 2005 00:39 GMT
Go directly to orlandosentinel,com
Look under national news Article will only be available until about midnight

> > By MARCIA DUNN | AP Aerospace Writer
> > Posted April 29, 2005, 1:07 PM EDT

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/ats-ap_top14apr29,1,2874667.stor
y?coll=sns-newsnation-headlines


> That link took me directly to a story about a "Mermaid baby" in Peru.
 
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