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Space Forum / Shuttle / September 2004Ways ISS shuttle can end near term.
KSC destroyed by hurricane Congress kills program permanetely without RTF. Another shuttle accident occurs, and congress ends the program. Soyuz cant get replacement crew to station, existing crew returns, and control over unmanned station is lost. Station deorbits, and iopefully no one is injured on the ground from debris. Russia US get into squabble, and decide to end ISS, shuttle ends with it. Kerry is elected and kills program. Progress resupply has troubles, and cant reach station.With shuttle grounded crew must return and unmanned station control is lost. A ISS accident like electron explodes or debris impact takes out station, and shuttle ends with it. I must emphasize I DONT want to see anyone hurt, but we are better off if the program ends, the sooner the better HAVE A GREAT DAY! I believe that the United States, within their mixup with local earthly issues such as the War on Terrorism, and other non-sense, has made a terrible error concerning international efforts to continue with the ISS mission. Instead of having Bush talk about "taking a man on the moon - again" (which ironically was first said by John F. Kennedy - democrat) and keep on with his political issues in earth, the truth is that because of the war on terrorism, the whole space international effort program has been affected. We should all step back and look at where we stand. The STS missions are critical, not only for the United States, but for the whole world being that the only instrument active (well, until the Columbia incident) in the field of human spaceflight. Either than or just give the russians funding (or how about if the U.S. steps down and even buys it themselves) so that they may go ahead and bring the Buran (the russian space shuttle) back on service. New technology won't be available any time soon, we're still in the models and research era - we must find a viable and quick solution before its too late and we might have to start over in the research for human exploration in space. Machines and satellites may do a descent job, but they do not substitute the fact that humans are still needed to compute and make specific complex tasks that enable machines to mantain later on. > We should all step back and look at where we stand. The STS missions > are critical, not only for the United States, but for the whole world Critical for what, exactly? Mark It is the only mechanism active to launch heavy payloads into space and support a fluid human visit into space. There are several other projects arising, such as Kipler (http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/09/16/kliper.shtml) to bring Russia into a safer and more fluid human space flight. Still, projects such as the Soviet Union's Buran Space Shuttle is a shame and waste of an excellent (much more superior) to the American Space Shuttle. Until then, the ISS will probably be unmanned for at least four to six months before an American shuttle (the only active shuttle capable of sending more than two or three persons (which is Russia's drawback) to the station. > Still, projects such >as the Soviet Union's Buran Space Shuttle is a shame and waste of an >excellent (much more superior) to the American Space Shuttle. If Buran were so superior (note the syntax) to STS, why did they never fly it with anyone in it? Seems the CCCP had less confidence in its own machine than you do. If you were to look back at the Buran era, you could probably see an array of projects of the Soviet Union which were always done with budget cuts. Possibly the Buran was not ready to support human life, yet if you look at the damage reports of each shuttle after re-entry, you would see a diference in the handling of each space craft. Still, with the fall of the Soviet Union lead to the fall of the Buran and other Soviet projects. If you were to look back at the Buran era, you could probably see an array of projects of the Soviet Union which were always done with budget cuts. Possibly the Buran was not ready to support human life, yet if you look at the damage reports of each shuttle after re-entry, you would see a diference in the handling of each space craft. Still, with the fall of the Soviet Union lead to the fall of the Buran and other Soviet projects. >yet if you look at the damage reports of each shuttle after re-entry, >you would see a diference in the handling of each space craft It ONLY renetered once. all other flights were atmospheric tests HAVE A GREAT DAY! How about if you do a little bit of research and compare the shuttle re-entry between Columbia's first flight and the Buran's ONLY flight? That might be a good start. Here you go to get you started: http://www.buran.ru/htm/molniya5.htm. > How about if you do a little bit of research and compare the shuttle > re-entry between Columbia's first flight and the Buran's ONLY flight? > That might be a good start. Here you go to get you started: > http://www.buran.ru/htm/molniya5.htm. 'course, Columbia managed to land on the right end of the runway. http://google.com/groups?selm=Xns9541B9200A473jrfrank@204.52.135.40  Signature-Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk > It is the only mechanism active to launch heavy payloads into space and > support a fluid human visit into space. Which is critical for what, exactly? Mark Bob, Let me tell you a little secret, so you can relax, but you have to promise not to tell anyone. Shhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The entire space program for all the world is a hoax, it's filmed on a sound stage and on the desert for scenes like the rovers on Mars. This is all paid for by movies like 2001: A Space Odyssey and Apollo 13; they use the extra (and in many cases the best!) footage for that. Now you can rest in peace, -- rk > KSC destroyed by hurricane > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > the program ends, the sooner the better > HAVE A GREAT DAY! Signaturerk, Just an OldEngineer "Engineers abhor extrapolation" -- Ken Iliff, from _Runway to Orbit_, 2004 > Bob, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Now you can rest in peace, If only. Signaturebp Proud Member of the Human O-Ring Society Since 2003 |
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