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Space Forum / Shuttle / July 2004Kerry calls for shutting station, and grounding shuttles permanetely.
To be replaced by a study of future manned options. The present nasa funding is to all be directed into robot operations and planetary operations. The eventual manned launcher will be a modest rework of a apollo or gemini sized craft, to service a small man tended station that will be robotically operated much of the time. Just a occasional service call for repair and resupply. heres the link.... HAVE A GREAT DAY! > To be replaced by a study of future manned options. The present nasa funding is > to all be directed into robot operations and planetary operations. The eventual [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > heres the link.... > HAVE A GREAT DAY! If his political power is as strong as his pitching arm then he's on a loser. Did you see that first pitch at Fenway last night?? Like a big jessie!!! >To be replaced by a study of future manned options. The present nasa funding >is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >heres the link.... It was on the florida today website but disappeared.:( I wonder if this is what kerry will talk about tonight in florida? on his campaign stop? Ambitious robotic program with orbiters to all planets, and robot crawlers to all non gaseous planets, including merrcury. venus lander, but admittely it will have a short life. robot crawlers to the moon with a comm sat for back side operations. attempt to find the remains of the apollo 11 LM upper stage and recover some pieces.along wiith a distant look at 11 lower stage remains sample returns from all non gas planets. KSC would be busy with a launch a week avearge for a variety of probes. A investigation of a nuclear engine for deep space probes to places like pluto and unmanned mission even futherr. All paid for by the scrapping of ISS shuttle. Although ISS will be offered as gift to international partners, who can either continue it or we will de orbit it safely in the pacific. If you get past the ending of most manned space the rest is pretty exciting... HAVE A GREAT DAY! > >To be replaced by a study of future manned options. The present nasa funding > >is [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > HAVE A GREAT DAY! I've been a vocal advocate for manned spaceflight, but the proposal as you describe it is, indeed, exciting. Lew Haller is bullshitting again -- no such story ever appeared on Florida Today, today or any date. >Haller is bullshitting again -- no such story ever appeared on Florida >Today, today >or any date. Guilty as charged, I do wonder, is what I posted a bad thing? If it were true? as klong as funding remained stable theres so much more we could do. still get a small manned launcher, ditching the money eating black hole of a station, while getting a real positive, orbiters, landers, and robotic crawlers on so mnany planets, along with a advanced nuclear booster for long distance operations. the first version for unmanned probes, and later fast transit for manned missions. I seriously du\oubt we will get much more than a replacement manned launcher. so science wise my joke post could be a winner HAVE A GREAT DAY! > Haller is bullshitting again -- no such story ever appeared on Florida > Today, today > or any date. OK. Here's a link that works that addresses the topic minus the hallerbian fantasy: "John Kerry on Space 2004" http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=965  Signaturerk, Just an OldEngineer "Dealing properly with very rare events is one of the attributes that distinguishes a design that is fit for safety-critical systems from one that is not." -- John Rushby in "A Comparison of Bus Architectures for Safety- Critical Embedded Systems," March 2003 > > Haller is bullshitting again -- no such story ever appeared on Florida > > Today, today [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=965 Was John Kerry influenced by some of the anti-space station rhetoric in these news groups or just ahead of his time? If take Cowling's analysis about Kerry's commitment to space based on his comments on the space station as a good way to discern the motives and deep feelings of people who post on this newsgroup then I must say: If you are anti-ISS you are against manned spaceflight. If you express doubts about the proposed Bush Lunar-Mars exploration plans and their cost you are against space progress. OK, go read the article, it does raise valid points. What it doesn't do is give you very much of a handle on what Kerry might do with regard to manned space exploration if he is elected. On the the other hand, if he comes out and says something like "James Van Allen is right" then you have a point. Mike Walsh >> > Haller is bullshitting again -- no such story ever appeared on Florida >> > Today, today [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > On the the other hand, if he comes out and says something like > "James Van Allen is right" then you have a point. Actually I didn't express or mean to express a point, I was just posting an interesting article on topic. And for sci.space.station readers, note a reasonable reference above. :-) Signaturerk, Just an OldEngineer "Dealing properly with very rare events is one of the attributes that distinguishes a design that is fit for safety-critical systems from one that is not." -- John Rushby in "A Comparison of Bus Architectures for Safety- Critical Embedded Systems," March 2003 > "John Kerry on Space 2004" > > http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=965 kerry is upset his picture was taken in the shuttle. I guess he doesnt weant to be seen as pro space HAVE A GREAT DAY! > > "John Kerry on Space 2004" > > > > http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=965 > > kerry is upset his picture was taken in the shuttle. I guess he doesnt weant to > be seen as pro space You're such an idiot. The fact he was at KSC is because he wants to give the appearance, at least to NASA supporters, that he's interested in space. The fact that an unflattering photograph made news headlines is an indication that our media is more interested in the appearance of political candidates than in their actual political views. You should have realized this Bob, since you're the king of appearance trumping fact on these newsgroups. Jeff SignatureRemove icky phrase from email address to get a valid address. > The fact that an unflattering photograph made news headlines is an > indication that our media is more interested in the appearance of political > candidates than in their actual political views. There's really no way to take a flattering picture in one of those damn bunny suits. SignatureThis is a siggy | To E-mail, do note | Just because something It's properly formatted | who you mean to reply-to | is possible, doesn't No person, none, care | and it will reach me | mean it can happen > > The fact that an unflattering photograph made news headlines is an > > indication that our media is more interested in the appearance of political > > candidates than in their actual political views. > > There's really no way to take a flattering picture in one of those damn bunny > suits. Shades of Dukakis driving a tank in a helmet with "MIKE" penciled in on masking tape . . . SignatureHerb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D. "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity." ~ Robert A. Heinlein <http://www.angryherb.net> > > Jeff Findley <jeff.findley@ugs.nojunk.com> made > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Shades of Dukakis driving a tank in a helmet with "MIKE" penciled in on > masking tape . . . I recall well the video of Dukakis riding in the tank, with his helmeted head sticking up out of the hatch on top of the tank. Look at what I just found... he he! http://myaisling.blogspot.com/2004/07/kerry-high-tech-dukaksis.html http://www.acepilots.com/mt/archives/000405.html >> The fact that an unflattering photograph made news headlines is an >> indication that our media is more interested in the appearance of political >> candidates than in their actual political views. > > There's really no way to take a flattering picture in one of those damn bunny > suits. It did at least cover his chin. Well, one of them did. Signature-Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk > > "John Kerry on Space 2004" > > > > http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=965 > > kerry is upset his picture was taken in the shuttle. I guess he doesnt weant to > be seen as pro space He had a Micheal Dukakis moment! |
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