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SS1: Abort to Apogee ?

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Bob Niland - 27 Jun 2004 22:15 GMT
Mike Melvill, quoted at:
http://spaceflightnow.com/ss1/040621launch.html

"This time, right after I lit the motor, the airplane
by itself rolled 90 degrees left. I stomped on the
rudder pedal and put in some control and it rolled
90 degrees right. And it's never, ever done that before.
So at that point, I was kind of reaching for the switch
to shut (the engine) down in case I was going to lose
control. But I was able to get it back, get it leveled
up and started trimming the nose up to pick up the
proper gamma, ..."

Is anyone else surprised that Mike didn't hit the kill
switch? An advantage of the SS1 hybrid engine is that
if you turn off the laughing gas, you stop burning
rubber.

I would have thought that SOP for this sort of
anomaly was abort and RTB.

However, since the unspent fuel and oxidizer does
present some landing risks (esp. if there might be
a serious roll control issue), I can also imagine
that it might be pilot discretion.

Has anyone seen any statements or analysis on this?

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Brian Gaff - 28 Jun 2004 07:46 GMT
> Mike Melvill, quoted at:
> http://spaceflightnow.com/ss1/040621launch.html
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>
> Has anyone seen any statements or analysis on this?

I imagine that as a test pilot he wanted to categorise the instability as
much as possible before he aborted. He ought to know his  craft's and his
own capabilities to some degree by then I'd have thought.

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Gene Seibel - 28 Jun 2004 15:36 GMT
> An advantage of the SS1 hybrid engine is that
> if you turn off the laughing gas, you stop burning
> rubber.

You do have a way with words. ;)
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Bob Niland - 28 Jun 2004 19:58 GMT
Might be a duplicate. My other NNTP server burped.

>> An advantage of the SS1 hybrid engine is that
>> if you turn off the laughing gas, you stop
>> burning rubber.

> You do have a way with words. ;)

I'd be surprised to learn that I was the first
to craft that obvious play on words to describe
Burt's space hot rod (it even has tail fins).

Since no one seems to have opinions on Mike's
decision to decline "RTLS", here's another SS1
question:

What is the maximum capability of the existing
SS1 craft/design?  The flight on the 21st was by
no means close to whatever the limit is, both
because of the trim issue, and because it was
likely less than full fuel load (no dummy mass
for passengers).

I'd guess that SS1 can exceed the X-Prize targets
by at least 10%, but since the design began before
it was an XP contestant, perhaps it has rather
more capability than that.

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Neil Gerace - 28 Jun 2004 21:12 GMT
> Since no one seems to have opinions on Mike's
> decision to decline "RTLS", here's another SS1
> question:

But he did RTLS, didn't he? :)
Jorge R. Frank - 29 Jun 2004 05:37 GMT
> I'd guess that SS1 can exceed the X-Prize targets
> by at least 10%,

You guess correctly. The target altitude for last Monday's flight was
360,000 ft, roughly 10% above the X-Prize altitude.

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Anonymous - 27 Sep 2004 23:32 GMT
They should save their money.  Its not going to work.

Nobody's going to risk his life and spend 200 Grand for a few minutes of
weightlessness in a glorified 4th of July sky rocket.  If its not a true
orbital flight lasting a few days, nobody with enough smarts to have a
loose 200 Grand laying around is going to give it a second thought.
 
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