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Space Forum / Shuttle / June 2004Challenger Debris
Has there been any talk of removing at least some of the Challenger debris so it can be used in the same manner as the Columbia debris? It must be comforting, to a point, for the Columbia famlies that in a way, the mission of their loved ones continues as research is done with Columbia debris. Don't the familes of the Challenger astronauts deserve the same? >Has there been any talk of removing at least some of the Challenger >debris so it can be used in the same manner as the Columbia debris? It >must be comforting, to a point, for the Columbia famlies that in a way, >the mission of their loved ones continues as research is done with >Columbia debris. Don't the familes of the Challenger astronauts deserve >the same? The Columbia debris is being preserved and used for research purposes to learn more about the enviroment of the upper atmosphere, hypersonic aerodynamics, and the effects of re-entry heating. While the Challenger families may 'deserve' the same, their really isn't anything scientific to be learned from studying the debris. D.  SignatureTouch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. > Has there been any talk of removing at least some of the Challenger > debris so it can be used in the same manner as the Columbia debris? It > must be comforting, to a point, for the Columbia famlies that in a way, > the mission of their loved ones continues as research is done with > Columbia debris. Don't the familes of the Challenger astronauts deserve > the same? Parts of Challenger have been used for R&D work in the past - landing gear components, for example, though I'd have to check to confirm. The thing to remember is that there wasn't much "unusual" about the Challenger accident, from an aerodynamics standpoint; it was moving in a part of the "flight envelope" we understand reasonably well. Columbia, by contrast, was in the upper atmosphere, breaking up at hypersonic velocities... and before then, what we knew about that wouldn't cover many pages. Signature-Andrew Gray shimgray@bigfoot.com >> Has there been any talk of removing at least some of the Challenger >> debris so it can be used in the same manner as the Columbia debris? It [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Parts of Challenger have been used for R&D work in the past - landing > gear components, for example, though I'd have to check to confirm. I did say I'd check ;-) Jenkins, 3rd ed, pp 411 mentions the Landing System Research Aircraft; a Convair fitted with a Shuttle wheel assembly in the belly and designed to land fast and 'hard'. "Several of the components tested, including portions of the landing gear struts, wheels, and brakes, were recovered from Challenger after the accident." It should be noted that this is using 'cannibalised' undamaged components, rather than research conducted on components due to their part in the accident, but still... (It was more practical to use parts from Challenger than Enterprise) Signature-Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk > "Several of the components tested, including portions of the landing > gear struts, wheels, and brakes, were recovered from Challenger after > the accident." I saw the hardware out in the YF-12 hangar right after it arrived. We stood there in silence, looking at it, until one of us said "Dick [Scobee] wouldn't mind a bit, especially if he could fly the LSRA." Mary SignatureMary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer miliff@qnet.com >I saw the hardware out in the YF-12 hangar right after it arrived. We >stood there in silence, looking at it, until one of us said "Dick >[Scobee] wouldn't mind a bit, especially if he could fly the LSRA." honestly I believe each nasa operatrion that lost lives merits a individual memorial with a display of some part of the craft in a respectful way. The apollo one capsule should be exhibited at its matching pad, perhaps in a restored blockhouse. the capsule restored to post fire condition for all to see and say a prayer. It should NOT be at the visitors center, but in a controlled small bus group setting. challenger and coulmbia need these displays too. all should tell consisely what occured and why. Futher each year there should be a one week safety flight stand down where everyone gets retrained and reminded. espically managers who should be required to tour each exhibit as a reminder the next disaster might be their fault. This would be a excellent way to honor the dead. While reminding the living. Call me superstitious but with all the bad stuff having occured in the same week of the year a stand down might be a good idea. HAVE A GREAT DAY! |
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