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jidi - 19 Feb 2004 11:52 GMT
How much cheaper would it be to send a man to Mars with no option to return?
I'm sure you would be able to get an aging/mad/fed up Professor somewhere to
volunteer. Send him in a capsule with 2 weeks supply of food and some
equipment for experiments.
Hallerb - 19 Feb 2004 14:15 GMT
>How much cheaper would it be to send a man to Mars with no option to return?
>I'm sure you would be able to get an aging/mad/fed up Professor somewhere to
>volunteer. Send him in a capsule with 2 weeks supply of food and some
>equipment for experiments.

boy is tat a dumb idea, voters would never approve of sending someone off
intentially to their deathj
jeff findley - 19 Feb 2004 15:01 GMT
> >How much cheaper would it be to send a man to Mars with no option to return?
> >I'm sure you would be able to get an aging/mad/fed up Professor somewhere to
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> boy is tat a dumb idea, voters would never approve of sending someone off
> intentially to their deathj

Actually, this idea has been seriously proposed.  And your spelling is
getting bad again, especially when you're shooting from the hip.

Jeff
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jeff findley - 19 Feb 2004 18:13 GMT
> > >How much cheaper would it be to send a man to Mars with no option to return?
> > >I'm sure you would be able to get an aging/mad/fed up Professor somewhere to
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> Actually, this idea has been seriously proposed.  And your spelling is
> getting bad again, especially when you're shooting from the hip.

I missed the 2 weeks supply of food.  When something like this has
been proposed, it included *far* more food, water, and oxygen.  The
idea is that you send someone there and keep sending them supplies,
when needed.  The astronaut core has lots of post-child raising adults
that would be good candidates

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Derek Lyons - 19 Feb 2004 19:44 GMT
>The astronaut core has lots of post-child raising adults
>that would be good candidates

Since you were getting on Hal about his spelling... :)

That's "corps" not "core"

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Andrew Gray - 19 Feb 2004 20:06 GMT
>>The astronaut core has lots of post-child raising adults
>>that would be good candidates
>
> Since you were getting on Hal about his spelling... :)
>
> That's "corps" not "core"

I dunno... if you take astronaut cores, they're probably adult and
almost certainly in no state to raise children afterwards...

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William A. Noyes - 27 Feb 2004 09:11 GMT
> >>The astronaut core has lots of post-child raising adults
> >>that would be good candidates
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> I dunno... if you take astronaut cores, they're probably adult and
> almost certainly in no state to raise children afterwards...

The term "corpse" instead of "core" or "corps" comes to mind.
Brian Gaff - 19 Feb 2004 18:41 GMT
| >How much cheaper would it be to send a man to Mars with no option to return?
| >I'm sure you would be able to get an aging/mad/fed up Professor somewhere to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
| boy is tat a dumb idea, voters would never approve of sending someone off
| intentially to their deathj
I'm surprised nobody has suggested we send criminals there and  not bring
them back, it sounds just about right for the hang em high brigade to
me....:-)

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Bootstrap Bill - 19 Feb 2004 20:36 GMT
> | >How much cheaper would it be to send a man to Mars with no option to
> return?
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> them back, it sounds just about right for the hang em high brigade to
> me....:-)

It would be cheaper to put them under the rockets than in them :)
R. G. 'Stumpy' Marsh - 19 Feb 2004 22:06 GMT
>I'm surprised nobody has suggested we send criminals there and  not bring
>them back, it sounds just about right for the hang em high brigade to
>me....:-)

That's not such a silly idea, really, if you ask for volunteers and
maintain them for longer than two weeks. I imagine there would be any
number of death row inmates (or even lifers) who would jump at the
chance to serve their sentence on Mars instead of in prison. The only
problem would be finding qualified candidates.
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dave schneider - 20 Feb 2004 04:07 GMT
> >I'm surprised nobody has suggested we send criminals there and  not bring
> >them back, it sounds just about right for the hang em high brigade to
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> chance to serve their sentence on Mars instead of in prison. The only
> problem would be finding qualified candidates.

Well, the best I can tell about the English "transportation system"
(Botany Bay was the later one; the American colonies were also peopled
that way), people threatened with transportation to a very survivable
location considered it little different from a death sentence, and
didn't volunteer.  (There were, however, volunteers for other types of
emigration to these locations.)

(It is also a Future Research Topic to check on how those actually so
sentenced felt about it at later dates)

/dps
Brian Thorn - 21 Feb 2004 05:17 GMT
>I'm surprised nobody has suggested we send criminals there and  not bring
>them back, it sounds just about right for the hang em high brigade to
>me....:-)

Oh, no. Does "Botany Bay" ring a bell?  :-}

Brian
Greg D. Moore (Strider) - 24 Feb 2004 03:10 GMT
> >I'm surprised nobody has suggested we send criminals there and  not bring
> >them back, it sounds just about right for the hang em high brigade to
> >me....:-)
>
> Oh, no. Does "Botany Bay" ring a bell?  :-}

Or Georgia....

> Brian
Brian Thorn - 24 Feb 2004 23:08 GMT
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 03:10:20 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
<mooregr_deleteth1s@greenms.com> wrote:

>> >I'm surprised nobody has suggested we send criminals there and  not bring
>> >them back, it sounds just about right for the hang em high brigade to
>> >me....:-)
>>
>> Oh, no. Does "Botany Bay" ring a bell?  :-}

I was thinking "Khan Noonian Singh"...  :-)

Brian
Bill Harris - 25 Feb 2004 15:02 GMT
<< On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:41:34 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
<Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>I'm surprised nobody has suggested we send criminals there and  not bring
>them back, it sounds just about right for the hang em high brigade to
>me....:-)

Oh, no. Does "Botany Bay" ring a bell?  :-} >>

"Botany Bay"?  "Botany Bay"?

Oh, no...!

:)
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Kulvinder Singh Matharu - 25 Feb 2004 19:59 GMT
><< On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:41:34 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
><Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
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>
>Oh, no...!

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Alan Erskine - 19 Feb 2004 16:06 GMT
> How much cheaper would it be to send a man to Mars with no option to return?
> I'm sure you would be able to get an aging/mad/fed up Professor somewhere to
> volunteer. Send him in a capsule with 2 weeks supply of food and some
> equipment for experiments.

Just to send someone to Mars, you could send a convict for all the science
you'd get back!  Just as likely/practical as your suggestion.

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Greg D. Moore (Strider) - 24 Feb 2004 03:09 GMT
> How much cheaper would it be to send a man to Mars with no option to return?
> I'm sure you would be able to get an aging/mad/fed up Professor somewhere to
> volunteer. Send him in a capsule with 2 weeks supply of food and some
> equipment for experiments.

Why just two weeks of food?  You can actually send 2 years worth fairly
cheaply.

You could probably send a lifetime's worth and still come out ahead.
Hallerb - 24 Feb 2004 03:17 GMT
>Why just two weeks of food?  You can actually send 2 years worth fairly
>cheaply.
>
>You could probably send a lifetime's worth and still come out

You might do better by sending a couple.
 
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