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Space Forum / Space Policy / July 2009A380 or de Havilland Comet
Another Air bus crashes in India killing 150. > Another Air bus crashes in India killing 150. 1. i suggest you start with learning the subtle differences between a A310, A330 and A380 2. the very aircraft in question got caught in an french safety inspection two years ago, and caught a list of malfunctions, breakdowns, maintenance neglections etc., etc. pp., ad infinitium, ad nauseam - the airline itself was very close to be put on the EU airline black list strangely enough this very aircraft was never seen again on any EU airport for two years do you need help to connect the dots ..? servus markus Hipupchuck <hipupchuck@roadrunner.com> wrote in news:fdOdnV6DK- OM39fXnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews.com: > Another Air bus crashes in India killing 150. It's not like 737 crashes are unusual, there being so many of them.... You might want to check and see which model an A380 is. --Damon > It's not like 737 crashes are unusual, there being so many of > them.... This site: http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/b737.htm suggests there have been 67 incidents with 737's involving passenger death since 1972. It does not though, to my knowledge, normalize that to passenger miles flown or some other metric. Their description of what qualifies: The following events are those involving at least one passenger death on a 737 where the aircraft flight had a direct or indirect role. Excluded would be events where the only passengers killed were stowaways, hijackers, or saboteurs. It does seem to include hijackings (eg entry #4) and does include incidents when the plane itself did not "crash" (eg entry #6). rick jones  Signatureoxymoron n, Hummer H2 with California Save Our Coasts and Oceans plates these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :) feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH... >> It's not like 737 crashes are unusual, there being so many of >> them.... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > rick jones After I saw that documentary 'Flight Crash Investigation' on NatGeo I vowed to never fly B737 again. The one with the rudder that suddenly jams and actually worked in reverse! The pilots and people on board didn't stand a chance. They figured it out after more than a decade when one plane had a rudder jam and by pure luck they made it back to the airport. They tested the hydraulic part that caused the problem and it jammed when subjected to low tempratures. The part had been improperly designed and tested. Nothing like that has ever happened on an Airbus. They've since replaced the part, but still...I'll take Airbus over Boeing any day. > After I saw that documentary 'Flight Crash Investigation' on NatGeo > I vowed to never fly B737 again. The one with the rudder that > suddenly jams and actually worked in reverse! The pilots and people > on board didn't stand a chance. They figured it out after more than > a decade when one plane had a rudder jam and by pure luck they made > it back to the airport. I presume you mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastwind_Airlines_Flight_517 > They tested the hydraulic part that caused the problem and it jammed > when subjected to low tempratures. The part had been improperly > designed and tested. Nothing like that has ever happened on an > Airbus. They've since replaced the part, but still...I'll take > Airbus over Boeing any day. I'm still somewhat leery of a flight control computer that in effect says "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that. " so while I don't let that stop me from flying in an Airbus, I do prefer Boeing, where to my understanding, the pilot can still overrule the flight control computer. rick jones Signatureoxymoron n, Hummer H2 with California Save Our Coasts and Oceans plates these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :) feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH... > I'm still somewhat leery of a flight control computer that in effect > says "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that. " so while I don't > let that stop me from flying in an Airbus, I do prefer Boeing, where > to my understanding, the pilot can still overrule the flight control > computer. > You should fly on a Il-62 sometime; the thing is built like a rock and can operate from unpaved runways if necessary. You know how the wings flex on a Boeing or Airbus? They don't do that on a Il-62...they are rigid. Damn tough plane, and if it weren't for the fact that one of the four tail-mounted engines would occasionally explode, a pretty safe one also. "Fly by wire"? "Fly by balls" is more like it... the.captain probably was flying a MiG-25 around before he he was in command of the one I flew on. :-D Pat >> After I saw that documentary 'Flight Crash Investigation' on NatGeo >> I vowed to never fly B737 again. The one with the rudder that [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > rick jones Though I have thousands of flights under my belt I feel lucky. You'll never get me in one of those beer cans moving 500mph again. Air emergency is the national geographics air accident show, although seconds from disaster cover some too. What you learn by watching these shows, its rarely a single point failure its usually a combination of issues. NOTHING built by humans is perfect. Air accidents occur but flying is way safer than driving.......... > After I saw that documentary 'Flight Crash Investigation' on NatGeo I > vowed [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > like that has ever happened on an Airbus. They've since replaced the part, > but still...I'll take Airbus over Boeing any day. Nothing like that may have happened with Airbus, but they've had their own issues. Personally, I prefer Boeing over Airbus. SignatureGreg Moore Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC. >After I saw that documentary 'Flight Crash Investigation' on NatGeo I vowed >to never fly B737 again. The one with the rudder that suddenly jams and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >low tempratures. The part had been improperly designed and tested. Nothing >like that has ever happened on an Airbus. Except their A300 rudders coming completely off. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587 You want rugged, dependable and long life, get a Boeing. You want cheap, short-service life, get Airbus. There will still be 747-200s flying cargo around long after the last A300 or A310 has been turned into beer cans. Brian > Except their A300 rudders coming completely off. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587 > I can't tell you who exactly I heard this from, but among aircrews of US airlines operating the Airbus aircraft, they are referred to as "Scarebus" due to their shoddy construction. They creak, they rattle, they groan, and occasionally they crash. You get what you pay for, and in this case you get the fruits of a socialist public works program out of France. P.S.- Carla Bruni's chest looks like two nails sticking out of a wall, and I figure the reason that Sarkozy married her is that in this way he could indulge his pederastic fantasies...without shocking the French public by actually marrying a twelve-year-old boy with a smooth pair of buttocks. But that's just one patriot's opinion. Pat >> Except their A300 rudders coming completely off. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > public by actually marrying a twelve-year-old boy with a smooth pair of > buttocks. Flannery you a faggot? > After I saw that documentary 'Flight Crash Investigation' on NatGeo I > vowed > to never fly B737 again. The one with the rudder that suddenly jams and > actually worked in reverse! That problem has been fixed. This is not a reason to avoid B-737's. In fact, I'd rather fly a B-737 than a newer type becaue the B-737 has flown so many miles on so many flights, you've actually worked out a lot of bugs (like the rudder reversal problem). And by the way, that rudder reversal problem was *extremely* difficult to reproduce in the lab. As an aerospace engineer, it's a very interesting problem to study since it's a very interdisciplinary type of problem. > The pilots and people on board didn't stand a > chance. They figured it out after more than a decade when one plane had a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > like that has ever happened on an Airbus. They've since replaced the part, > but still...I'll take Airbus over Boeing any day. This latest Airbus crash was a plane that wasn't even allowed to fly in Europe because it had a laundry list of problems with the aircraft. I'll take a B-737 maintained to US or European safety standards over an Airbus maintained to third world standards any day. Jeff Signature"Take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National Lampoon > I'll take a B-737 maintained to US or European safety standards over an > Airbus maintained to third world standards any day. > > Jeff Agreed. However, I have to remind myself, that humans in general are lousy at risk assessment. I know 1 or 2 people now that have said they'd avoid the DC Metro because of the recent crash. Despite the fact that driving is far more dangerous. Same thing with flying. Even the recent Southwest flap over missing FAA inspections didn't worry me overly, given both Southwest's and the 737s history. (yes, it bothered me, but as there weren't a rash of SWA 737s crashing, I wasn't too worked up over it.) SignatureGreg Moore Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC. >> I'll take a B-737 maintained to US or European safety standards over an >> Airbus maintained to third world standards any day. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Metro because of the recent crash. Despite the fact that driving is far > more dangerous. Same thing with flying. In other words, those people are idiots. ;-) > Even the recent Southwest flap over missing FAA inspections didn't worry > me overly, given both Southwest's and the 737s history. (yes, it bothered > me, but as there weren't a rash of SWA 737s crashing, I wasn't too worked > up over it.) True. Jeff Signature"Take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National Lampoon |
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