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Sea Launch has filed for bankruptcy

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Pat Flannery - 23 Jun 2009 18:27 GMT
Filed for Chapter 11 on Monday:
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=28522
This is really sad, as they did come up with a very clever concept for
the whole operation, but I guess the payloads just weren't there to make
it work from a economic point of view.

Pat
Alan Erskine - 23 Jun 2009 20:50 GMT
> Filed for Chapter 11 on Monday:
> http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=28522
> This is really sad, as they did come up with a very clever concept for the
> whole operation, but I guess the payloads just weren't there to make it
> work from a economic point of view.

They only did the equatorial launches in order to try to compete with
ArianeSpace - but it's bound to be a more expensive operation (more mobile
infrastructure than ArianeSpace).  Along with fewer customers overall, it
was only a matter of time.

Damned shame all the same.
BradGuth - 23 Jun 2009 23:40 GMT
> Filed for Chapter 11 on Monday:http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=28522
> This is really sad, as they did come up with a very clever concept for
> the whole operation, but I guess the payloads just weren't there to make
> it work from a economic point of view.
>
> Pat

If there's no official or unofficial concern about solid boosters
polluting our environment, then there's no further need of Sea Launch.

~ BG
David Spain - 24 Jun 2009 04:08 GMT
> Filed for Chapter 11 on Monday:

Watch closely to see if they can restructure the terms of their liabilities
to stretch them out. I wonder if the recent economic collapse caused them
to loose enough flight bookings to make its run-out plan not workable?

Perhaps with some debt forgiveness or re-negotiation they can come out
intact.

Since they cannot rely on larger payloads to offset costs, aren't they
highly sensitive to launch rates / payload bookings?

If the world economy swings back might they be in a good position?

Watch to see if in six months they move from Chapter 11 to Chapter 7.
Let's hope not.

Dave
BradGuth - 24 Jun 2009 20:38 GMT
> > Filed for Chapter 11 on Monday:
>
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>
> Dave

If there's no official or unofficial media taking notice, and
otherwise a lack of general populous concern about such multiple and
spendy solid boosters polluting the living bejesus out of our frail
environment, then there's no further need of Sea Launch.   In other
words, with a sufficient number of solid boosters (mostly
expendables), we could launch everything from the Antarctic south pole
and it wouldn’t hardly matter.
~ BG
Pat Flannery - 28 Jun 2009 03:13 GMT
> Watch closely to see if they can restructure the terms of their liabilities
> to stretch them out. I wonder if the recent economic collapse caused them
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Watch to see if in six months they move from Chapter 11 to Chapter 7.
> Let's hope not.

They have another article about this with more details now; apparently
the explosion during launch in 2007 caused some customers to jump ship,
and the world financial crisis didn't help either.
So now they are around 1.5 billion dollars in the hole:
http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0906/24sealaunch/
Surprisingly, they have been losing launches to Proton, so one ex-Soviet
booster is taking business away from another ex-Soviet booster.

Pat
BradGuth - 03 Jul 2009 04:24 GMT
> > Watch closely to see if they can restructure the terms of their liabilities
> > to stretch them out. I wonder if the recent economic collapse caused them
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> and the world financial crisis didn't help either.
> So now they are around 1.5 billion dollars in the hole:http://spaceflight
now.com/news/n0906/24sealaunch/
> Surprisingly, they have been losing launches to Proton, so one ex-Soviet
> booster is taking business away from another ex-Soviet booster.
>
> Pat

If cost and continued pollution were no object;  why do we need Sea
Launch?

Small but powerful and extremely capable satellites can be launched
from a Russian submarine.  Otherwise, strap on a few more SRBs and
launch from Antarctica if you like.

~ BG

MODERATOR'S COMMENT:
We're drifting from the technical into policy.  I'll allow this last post, but let's get this back to sci.space.tech after all.  GdM
OM - 06 Jul 2009 18:34 GMT
>Filed for Chapter 11 on Monday:
>http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=28522
>This is really sad, as they did come up with a very clever concept for
>the whole operation, but I guess the payloads just weren't there to make
>it work from a economic point of view.

....I suspect it had more to do with the pad EPIC FAIL. Prior to this I
heard they were doing otay insofar as balancing the books go.

                              OM

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Pat Flannery - 07 Jul 2009 06:09 GMT
>> Filed for Chapter 11 on Monday:
>> http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=28522
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> heard they were doing otay insofar as balancing the books go.
>  

If you check the follow-up posting I made, that was one of the main
reasons...after the one blew on the pad, their customers started jumping
ship on them, and headed for Proton instead.

Pat
OM - 07 Jul 2009 17:17 GMT
>If you check the follow-up posting I made, that was one of the main
>reasons...after the one blew on the pad, their customers started jumping
>ship on them, and headed for Proton instead.

....That post showed up from nowhere, and was posted weeks ago. Dunno
where that came from.

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