Space Forum / Space History / June 2004

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I was checking out that forum the other day.  Re. the petition they've
got going to re-open the investigation, I thought it was very strange
that on a petition that supposedly is going to be sent to real
Congreemen and Senators that someone would "sign" it not once, not
twice, but three times.  Twice with bogus names.  One would think
someone who desperately wants to be taken seriously would avoid such
irresponsible antics.

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I did get a good laugh from some of the posts there.  Sounds like when
our newest resident troll first approached "scott" he tried to hit on her.

does the term "slow news day" mean anything to you? <g>

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actually, on ssh she's acted more like someone with a mix of:

Narcissistic Personality Disorder (aka Oswald Syndrome)

<quote>
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for
admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in
a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and
talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate
achievements)

is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance,
beauty, or ideal love

believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood
by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or
institutions)

requires excessive admiration

has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially
favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve
his or her own ends

lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and
needs of others

is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

</quote>

...and a bit of Antisocial Personality Disorder

<quote>
There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of
others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the
following:

failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as
indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest

deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning
others for personal profit or pleasure

impulsivity or failure to plan ahead

irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or
assaults

reckless disregard for safety of self or others

consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain
consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations

lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing
having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

</quote>

though not so much of the latter, mainly just the last two symptoms.

But BPD? Can't see it. BPD is often accompanied by apd, npd, hpd, yadda, but
lots of the classic BPD symptoms that you mention aren't really shown by LaD
*on ssh*.

To get back to why we're giving her some attention: for awhile we were just
making fun of her because we were bored. But then as she started going to
enormous lengths to avoid having to produce verifiable evidence for her
claims (classic apd), kept making all these self-aggrandizing remarks about
all her contacts (npd) and demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge and
understanding of even basic concepts of the subject matter (classic
conspiracy theorist) and a complete lack of common sense about how people
and systems function in real life (ditto)...then we started to shift from
simple mockery to a relentless determination to make her face the
consequences of her actions. She makes wild-assed claims about a conspiracy
to commit murder and then desperately avoids having to prove it, and we are
determined to nail her a.s to the wall for doing so.

Pat Flannery wrote:

Well, don't be surprised if LaDonna weasels her way into the interview,
Pat.  I can see it now.....

"LaDonna, can you please tell us what your "far from insignificant and
not all that brief" interaction with former astronaut Jim Lovell was
like?"

LaDonna will get all choked up, and say with teary eyes and quivering
lips, "Why, of course.  I would LOVE to!  Out of almost 43 years of
life, I can tell you the two plus hours I spent with him that evening
were the best I have ever had with anyone."

The media will then contact Jim Lovell via satellite, and ask him what
his impressions of his time with LaDonna Wyss are.

To which he will reply, "LaDonna Who???"

Here's the bottom line.

On both ssh and the A-1 forum, LaDonna talks like a nut, acts like a
fruitcake, thinks like a moron,and behaves like a lunatic.

I think it's pretty safe to assume she's all of the above!

So, IN CLOSING, let's hear a rounding verse a la "We Are the Champions"
style......

We will just ignore her! Everybody!  We will just IGNORE HER!! Sing
it!! WE WILL JUST IGNORE HER!!!!!

OM wrote:

You need not worry!  The future integrity of the SAT test will
not be poisoned by the reputation of LaDonna Wyss.  God, you are
starting to sound as paranoid as she does!  ;-P

I would bet every cent I own on the fact that LaDonna Wyss does not
have a dress stained with a personal souvenir of her memorable and life
changing meeting with Jim Lovell, in spite of the fact that it was far
from insignificant and not all that brief!  ;-)

Therefore, don't automatically just lump Monica and LaDonna together in
every way.  

The only thing they share is their insanity.

Pat Flannery wrote:

with

Hey, Pat!

Sorry to have ruffled your feathers.  It wasn't intentional!

I promise not to mention the unmentionable again when responding to
your posts if you promise not to stay ruffled!

(And to be fair, here, the general nature of the posts in that thread
did deal with you know who.  Perhaps you should have started a new
Monica thread instead of responding to the established one if you
didn't want to hear about Monica's twin.)
Deal?

Sincerely,

Anyone  ;-)