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Space Forum / Space History / May 2004Whats the best way to display a shuttle at KSC?
Once they are retired whats the best way to display one at KSC? What I DONT want to see is a proud vehicle being exposed to the elements, and becoming a home for birds. I was thinking upright on one of the pads, with the entire pad enclosed in glass somehow. For the pad rats how practical would that be? Having elevators shuttle visitors upstairs to take a look inside. No matter what their retirement day is coming, so this discussion will come up again. HAVE A GREAT DAY! >Once they are retired whats the best way to display one Cut them up into little pieces, glue to 3x5 cards and sell on Ebay. ;-) - Rusty Barton How about actually making something that can take off from a runway, and turning the entire VAB into a museum with a shuttle stack in one aisle and the KSC restored to vertical in the other ! Adam > Once they are retired whats the best way to display one at KSC? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > again. > HAVE A GREAT DAY! Ooops ! for "the KSC" read "the KSC Saturn V" Too much sun today........Adam > How about actually making something that can take off from a runway, and > turning the entire VAB into a museum with a shuttle stack in one aisle and [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > again. > > HAVE A GREAT DAY! >How about actually making something that can take off from a runway, and >turning the entire VAB into a museum with a shuttle stack in one aisle and >the KSC restored to vertical in the other ! Assuming all three orbiters survive until 2010 one will certainly be bound for the Smithsonian, and probably be displayed at the exhibit at Dulles. Probably the most flown, Discovery (a year ago I would have predicted Columbia would end up here and displayed alongside her would be the HST). I do think a payload should be displayed with the orbiter. If the VAB is shut down following the end of STS I like the idea of having a shuttle stack up in one of the VAB high bays. And in the other bay, a Saturn V. This should be a nice display for Atlantis or Endeavour. The third orbiter I think should be sent out to either around Edwards or Palmdale. I'd say the JSC next to the Saturn V but don't see that as being good for the vehicle in the long run. I suppose if all else fails another orbiter could always be put displayed in one of the OPF's. -A.L. >>How about actually making something that can take off from a runway, >>and turning the entire VAB into a museum with a shuttle stack in one [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > bound for the Smithsonian, and probably be displayed at the exhibit at > Dulles. Dulles already has Enterprise. > Probably the most flown, Discovery (a year ago I would have > predicted Columbia would end up here and displayed alongside her would > be the HST). Before the accident, I would have predicted Columbia would have wound up at Dulles, with Enterprise sent to DFRC, and the other three orbiters divided up between JSC, MFSC, and KSC. Now, I think the three surviving orbiters will wind up at JSC, MSFC, and KSC.  SignatureJRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. >> Assuming all three orbiters survive until 2010 one will certainly be >> bound for the Smithsonian, and probably be displayed at the exhibit at >> Dulles. > >Dulles already has Enterprise. Enterprise ain't an orbiter that's been in space. Freedom 7 was also first delivered the the Smithsonian after its flight, but now the primary Mercury display is Friendship 7. The institution also has two flwon Gemini spacecraft (Gemini 4 and 7) and two flown Apollo CSM's (Apollo 11 and Skylab 4) and an unflown CSM boilerplate for the ASTP display. They could well end up with two orbiters I guess, one a test article and the other a space-worthy one. -A.L. >>> Assuming all three orbiters survive until 2010 one will certainly be >>> bound for the Smithsonian, and probably be displayed at the exhibit [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > and two flown Apollo CSM's (Apollo 11 and Skylab 4) and an unflown CSM > boilerplate for the ASTP display. There were enough Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo flight articles to spread around that all the major NASA centers involved could have one. > They could well end up with two orbiters I guess, one a test article > and the other a space-worthy one. My assessment: no way will the Smithsonian get two orbiters at the expense of JSC, KSC, or MSFC *not* getting one. And with only four orbiters to spread around, that means no way, period. SignatureJRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. >My assessment: no way will the Smithsonian get two orbiters at the expense >of JSC, KSC, or MSFC *not* getting one. And with only four orbiters to >spread around, that means no way, period. ...And again, do the math. Four sites, four flight articles. Duh. OM Signature"No bastard ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb bastard die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr >>> Assuming all three orbiters survive until 2010 one will certainly be >>> bound for the Smithsonian, and probably be displayed at the exhibit at [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > They could well end up with two orbiters I guess, one a test article and the > other a space-worthy one. It'd seem more likely that they get one of the flown orbiters to replace Enterprise, and then they get shared out - one for each site. (That's assuming they don't just keep Enterprise, but it'd seem vaguely Right to have one of the flown articles in the Smithsonian, no?) Signature-Andrew Gray shimgray@bigfoot.com > >>How about actually making something that can take off from a runway, > >>and turning the entire VAB into a museum with a shuttle stack in one [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > -- DFRC could still get one since MSFC/US_Space_Center already has Pathfinder. > DFRC could still get one since MSFC/US_Space_Center already has Pathfinder. Oh puh-leeze. Seriously, what is clearly needed is a second production run! :-) SignatureThis is a siggy | To E-mail, do note | Just because something It's properly formatted | who you mean to reply-to | is possible, doesn't No person, none, care | and it will reach me | mean it can happen > I was thinking upright on one of the pads, with the entire pad enclosed in > glass somehow. For the pad rats how practical would that be? Having elevators > shuttle visitors upstairs to take a look inside. IANA padrat. OTOH, I've heard of hurricanes. Spot the potential, um, interesting problem for a third-year civil engineering class, if nothing else... Signature-Andrew Gray shimgray@bigfoot.com > > I was thinking upright on one of the pads, with the entire pad enclosed in > > glass somehow. For the pad rats how practical would that be? Having elevators > > shuttle visitors upstairs to take a look inside. > > IANA padrat. OTOH, I've heard of hurricanes. Me, neither, but I'd play one on TV if asked... > Spot the potential, um, interesting problem for a third-year civil > engineering class, if nothing else... Aren't we also approaching the point where keeping the VAB from crumbling in normal weather is going to cost as much as building a new building? *It* is hurricane-resistant now, but don't take your hard hats off.... /dps |
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