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How far can you see into LOx?

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G. R. L. Cowan - 15 Jan 2006 02:16 GMT
At http://radio.weblogs.com/0101365/2003/11/12.html 
is shown the blueness of a test-tubeful of LOx,
and its absorption spectrum.

What about a light path of several metres?
When you looked down into such a thickness,
how far could you see?
If a swimming pool were filled with it,
and had lights in its walls,
would you expect them to be visible from above?

--- Graham Cowan, former hydrogen fan
http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/Paper_for_11th_CHC.html
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Damon Hill - 15 Jan 2006 08:35 GMT
> What about a light path of several metres?
> When you looked down into such a thickness,
> how far could you see?
> If a swimming pool were filled with it,
> and had lights in its walls,
> would you expect them to be visible from above?

I recall that LH2 is as transparent as water, from
internal footage of Saturn IB and V tankage in orbit.

The image in this link suggest visibility in LOX should
be at least a few meters.

http://www.rsbs.anu.edu.au/ResearchGroups/PBE/Oxygen/O2_1
_PhysicalProperties.htm

--Damon  
G. R. L. Cowan - 19 Jan 2006 17:55 GMT
> > What about a light path of several metres?
> > When you looked down into such a thickness,
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>
> I recall that LH2 is as transparent as water, ...

Much more transparent, I would expect.

> from internal footage of Saturn IB and V tankage in orbit.
>
> The image in this link suggest visibility in LOX should
> be at least a few meters.
>
> http://www.rsbs.anu.edu.au/ResearchGroups/PBE/Oxygen/O2_1_PhysicalProperties.htm

... which includes this GIF:
http://www.rsbs.anu.edu.au/ResearchGroups/PBE/Oxygen/Images/liq%20oxygen.gif

If that flask is sitting on the ice-covered ruins of Cleveland,  
it would indicate kilometres of through-LOx visibility.
What's the scale?

The other picture link again:
http://radio.weblogs.com/0101365/2003/11/12.html

--- Graham Cowan, former hydrogen fan
Boron fire good. http://tinyurl.com/4xt8g
 
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