>A new turbine has been announced which is claimed to have unprecedented
>low cost and ruggedness:
>http://www.theengineer.co.uk/Articles/291175/New+twist+on+turbines.htm
Subtle correction: a new *gas turbine* has been announced. The
difference is significant. What's novel is the convenient packaging:
compressor, burner, and turbine on one side of one rotating disk. The
turbine part itself is, as best I can tell, nothing new or remarkable --
it looks like a straightforward impulse turbine.
>What is the tradeoff to this design? Lower energy efficiency?
Don't immediately see any reason why it would be especially inefficient,
although having only one turbine stage is not great. Putting one section
after another radially does mean greater diameter, higher centrifugal
forces, and hence perhaps greater structural and materials problems.
Its big assets are that it's basically simple and cheap and durable
(assuming it works well enough not to require tricky fiddling with the
details), like most turbines it's not fussy about fuel, and the simple
configuration means it doesn't care too much if the fuel is a bit dirty.
The clear winner application is powering military vehicles and equipment,
where durability and wide fuel tolerance are strongly desired; the
runner-up is remote-area oil/gas work, where cruddy unrefined fuel is
easily had and maintenance is expensive.
>What new applications will it enable or make practical? Turbine
>lawn-mowers? Turbine-powered bicycles? Moller SkyCar, Helmet-mounted
>turbine helicopter blades? ;) ;)
Gut feeling: none of the above. It doesn't represent a major advance
in any of the dimensions those systems care about.
>Actually, what I mainly wanted to ask was whether this design could
>lead to a cheaper and more durable turbopump...
Almost certainly not. Those aren't gas turbines.

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manofsan@yahoo.com - 27 Jun 2005 03:41 GMT
Hmm, forgive my ignorance, but even though the turbopump may be pumping
liquid fuel under high pressure to the ignition chamber, I thought that
the turbopump is itself deriving power from an exhaust channel drawn
off from that same combustion chamber. So whatever turbine is being
used to convert the side-channel of exhaust gas into power for the
liquid turbopump, I thought that's part and parcel of the general
turbopump apparatus.
So would that turbine benefit from this newly announced single-stage
axial design? Or is that really not as critical a component as the rest
of the turbopump?