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Space Forum / Space Science / December 2008Comprehensiveness of Worship in Islam
-> I send you today a good article. It could be new and adds to your -> knowledge. I curse you to spend the rest of your miserable existence in Las Vegas, where everything you hold dear is treated with utter contempt. May the tingling bells of a million slot machines deafen you, the smoke-laden atmospheres of the casinos choke you, the flashes of cameras blind you, and the disgusting water poison you. dow (recently returned from Vegas, which didn't appeal to me, either) Williams you're going weird. > -> I send you today a good article. It could be new and adds to your > -> knowledge. > > I curse you to spend the rest of your miserable existence in Las > Vegas, where everything you hold dear is treated with utter contempt. We had a lot of good times in Vegas and so have many of our friends. I certainly understand your contempt for muslimes, given the complicity they had in the attacks in Bombay, especially murdering Dr. Moss, but please, be sane and DO NOT compare that to Vegas. > May the tingling bells of a million slot machines deafen you, the > smoke-laden atmospheres of the casinos choke you, the flashes of > cameras blind you, and the disgusting water poison you. Well the average canuckistani peasant wouldn't know what Vegas is about, it's for upscale intelligent adults, so that certainly will exclude you. > dow (recently returned from Vegas, which didn't appeal to me, either) Post your bitch-fest to Alt.Whinny.Canucks, with the rest of the idiot canucks who have an average IQ of 90, (80 if you're from Taranto). Ken Oh, I don't know. I support any curse Dave can imagine for idiotic, persistant religious propaganda posted to an astronomy group. I kind of like the idea of any holier-than-thou group being sent to Vegas, or if they don't like the 'States, maybe Alberta. The Canadian education system has taken quite a decline from the past few governments, but I'm fairly sure it still beats out the majority of self-centered bigots I've met from south of the border. I look forward to hearing what Steven Hawking says on his visit. Vegas? is definately for upscale adults that know nothing of probability and statistics, and flock to flashing lights, waste, and 40 year old fantasies. Informed or intelligent? I think not. Dave just went up two notches. > Williams you're going weird. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > (80 if you're from Taranto). > Ken Hi Ralph. > Oh, I don't know. > I support any curse Dave can imagine for idiotic, persistant religious [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > self-centered bigots I've met from south of the border. I look forward to > hearing what Steven Hawking says on his visit. Yeah, I sure hope Steven enjoys himself. > Vegas? is definately for upscale adults that know nothing of probability > and statistics, and flock to flashing lights, waste, and 40 year old > fantasies. > Informed or intelligent? I think not. > Dave just went up two notches. I think you and Dave are stereotyping Vegas. You have lot's of *freedom* on how to spend money, what more can you ask for? Ken I look forward to >> hearing what Steven Hawking says on his visit. > > Yeah, I sure hope Steven enjoys himself. I'm sure Dr. Hawkings acceptance of an office with the Perimeter Institute will be a change for him, and he'll continue to amaze, educate, and go his own way, in his own fashion. I'm sure he enjoys himself, and from what I've heard and read, he likes to take chances as well. I can only believe this was in his plan, and not a sudden whim. Dr. Hawking is not known for poor planning. He's been proved wrong on points, but only after many years, and occasionally, even by himself. > I think you and Dave are stereotyping Vegas. > You have lot's of *freedom* on how to spend money, > what more can you ask for? > Ken Of course we're stereo-typing Vegas. That's what it was built for. No, the freedom on how to spend money in Vegas is determined only by the cold, calculating numbers that confine you to spending it in a fashion where the result overwhelming goes to waste. As to what more I could ask for, I am completely stunned by the question. 14 or 15 answers come to mind, and none would make you happy. A number of years back, I finally learned not to ask questions that I was certain would produce an answer I wouldn't like. Most of those questions involved starting the question with "why". The most telling answer came only recently, when I read a story about "how things got the way they are at the office" and involved monkeys. My sister goes to Vegas regularly, and enjoys herself with her husband immensely. They don't understand my interests, either. > I look forward to>> hearing what Steven Hawking says on his visit. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > He's been proved wrong on points, but only after many years, and > occasionally, even by himself. Steven's ideas are comparatively esoteric, and difficult to test experimentally, and I being a pragmatic theorist, we have little overlap, so I confess we really don't know each other. > > I think you and Dave are stereotyping Vegas. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > immensely. > They don't understand my interests, either. That's what's great about America, versatility. You may enjoy Disneyland, Key West (woohoo), Salt Lake City... Ken Sorry, Ken, you missed my jist again. The versatility you describe is feigned, catered, and manufactured. I have little interest in that. The few places I'd wish to see as a tourist in the United States are under secure lock and key, to the scientific staff only. The only interest I'd have in visiting the "tourist traps", is if I'd won a lottery, and my relatives or friends wanted to go. I'd likely tag along, to see they'd actually enjoy themselves. I might admire some of the construction, architecture, or ask for other "weird" information. The information I already have of most of these places, second-hand, is enough for me. - and if I won the lottery, I would do some travelling. I have several destinations in that fantasy. As to Dr. Hawkings research and ideas being esoteric, I disagree. The frontiers of cosmology and particle physics are being made in our time, and have only really developed in the last few decades. As to the difficulty of experimental data, that's being done as well, and in a more timely fashion than ever before. Huge constructions like the SNO, (Sudbury Neutrino Observatory - it's relatively old) LIGO, (to study gravity waves) the VLA, (seen in the movie Contact) and the VLT, (the Very Large Telescope - ...no-one ever accused them of imaginative names) have been built to work on these ideas. I'm consistantly amazed at how little news gets to the public about all the research that gets done, the construction it involves, and how the limits of construction get pushed so that we get the benefits not only from the research, but the whole process that leads to it, with the miniscule amount of financial backing the government "gifts" out. 'Course, maybe that's why. The government can't take the comparison of money well spent in the gain of knowledge without an agenda. I likely shouldn't say that - 'without an agenda'. Science research does have an agenda; to solve problems like disease, poverty, food production, construction, and the like. It gets pushed in other directions by the funding. You gotta do what you gotta do to get paid - a sad state of our times. > Steven's ideas are comparatively esoteric, and difficult > to test experimentally, and I being a pragmatic theorist, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > enjoy Disneyland, Key West (woohoo), Salt Lake City... > Ken Hi Ralph, sorry I missed your post. > Sorry, Ken, you missed my jist again. > The versatility you describe is feigned, catered, and manufactured. I have > little interest in that. > The few places I'd wish to see as a tourist in the United States are under > secure lock and key, to the scientific staff only. Well of course, that keeps the hobo's out. > The only interest I'd have in visiting the "tourist traps", is if I'd won a > lottery, and my relatives or friends wanted to go. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > - and if I won the lottery, I would do some travelling. I have several > destinations in that fantasy. Ok, it's reasonably priced, most are free, so if you're whinning, go there :-). > As to Dr. Hawkings research and ideas being esoteric, I disagree. > The frontiers of cosmology and particle physics are being made in our time, > and have only really developed in the last few decades. Not really, he and his ilk sell books to the unwashed masses, via pop-media....it's Bull sh.t, nothing new. > As to the difficulty of experimental data, that's being done as well, and in > a more timely fashion than ever before. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > research, but the whole process that leads to it, > with the miniscule amount of financial backing the government "gifts" out. I'm ok with the perimeter institute, but govmonks should get out of the business of theoretical physics, because they're retarded. It makes all the cows moo together. > 'Course, maybe that's why. The government can't take the comparison of > money well spent in the gain of knowledge without an agenda. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > funding. You gotta do what you gotta do to get paid - a sad state of our > times. Waterloo University was good in the mid-70's but since then has gone down the tubes, with only immigrant low quality profs, it's garbage now. > > Steven's ideas are comparatively esoteric, and difficult > > to test experimentally, and I being a pragmatic theorist, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > enjoy Disneyland, Key West (woohoo), Salt Lake City... > > Ken I see. - nothing but a flame. Have fun. > I see. - nothing but a flame. > Have fun. On the contrary I have a great deal of respect for the Perimeter Institute, and I certainly did NOT "flame" you. Ken |
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