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Nog - 25 Apr 2005 01:48 GMT
Why don't the asteroids in the asteroid belt between mars and jupiter
coalesce into a planet if that's how the other planets formed?
Richard - 25 Apr 2005 09:07 GMT
> Why don't the asteroids in the asteroid belt between mars and jupiter
> coalesce into a planet if that's how the other planets formed?

correct me if I'm wrong but I thought it was because of Jupiters'
massive gravitational influence preventing this.

R.
spaceart@att.net - 25 Apr 2005 16:21 GMT
> > Why don't the asteroids in the asteroid belt between mars and jupiter
> > coalesce into a planet if that's how the other planets formed?
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> R.

Yup! The asteroids are no more capable of coalescing into a planet than
the particles of Saturn's rings are of becoming a moon.

RM
Johann Wayne - 27 Apr 2005 01:56 GMT
Is it because solar ignition swept away most of the volatiles before a
planet had time to accrete?
Nog - 27 Apr 2005 13:12 GMT
> Is it because solar ignition swept away most of the volatiles before a
> planet had time to accrete?
Well, acording to gravity, the largest asteroid should attract the smallest
ones, building up larger and larger with increasing gravity and attracting
more and more objects until is uses up all the small bodies. If it gets
large enough, intenal pressures would liquify the center producing internal
heat, volcanos and an atomsphere. It should have happened a few billions
years ago. If two large planets collided and broke up, then they should be
coming together again.
David Williams - 27 Apr 2005 18:31 GMT
-> Well, acording to gravity, the largest asteroid should attract the smallest  
-> ones, building up larger and larger with increasing gravity and attracting  
-> more and more objects until is uses up all the small bodies. If it gets  
-> large enough, intenal pressures would liquify the center producing internal  
-> heat, volcanos and an atomsphere. It should have happened a few billions  
-> years ago. If two large planets collided and broke up, then they should be  
-> coming together again.
 
When bodies collide, there are competing tendencies. They may coalesce,
or they may smash each other into even smaller fragments. Gentle
collisions tend to produce coalescence, so small bodies build up into
bigger ones. Violent collisions cause fragmentation.
 
Planets or asteroids can collide gently enough to coalesce only if
their initial orbits are very similar. But, in the asteroid belt,
everything gets stirred up by Jupiter's gravity, so when asteroids
collide they tend to do so rather fast. The result is that they often
smash each other apart, so they don't all join together to form a
single "planet". (Actually, if they did, it would be a very small body
by planetary standards - maybe as big as Pluto, but smaller than all
the other planets.)
 
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