Team of Researchers Develops FTL Fiber Cable
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Double-A - 30 Oct 2006 03:23 GMT Light that travels... faster than light!
"A team of researchers from the Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (EPFL) has successfully demonstrated, for the first time, that it is possible to control the speed of light - both slowing it down and speeding it up - in an optical fiber, using off-the-shelf instrumentation in normal environmental conditions. Their results, to be published in the August 22 issue of Applied Physics Letters, could have implications that range from optical computing to the fiber-optic telecommunications industry.
On the screen, a small pulse shifts back and forth - just a little bit. But this seemingly unremarkable phenomenon could have profound technological consequences. It represents the success of Luc Thévenaz and his fellow researchers in the Nanophotonics and Metrology laboratory at EPFL in controlling the speed of light in a simple optical fiber. They were able not only to slow light down by a factor of three from its well - established speed c of 300 million meters per second in a vacuum, but they've also accomplished the considerable feat of speeding it up - making light go faster than the speed of light."
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-08/epfd-ltt081905.php
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Painius - 30 Oct 2006 04:19 GMT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Light that travels... faster than light!
"A team of researchers from the Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (EPFL) has successfully demonstrated, for the first time, that it is possible to control the speed of light - both slowing it down and speeding it up - in an optical fiber, using off-the-shelf instrumentation in normal environmental conditions. Their results, to be published in the August 22 issue of Applied Physics Letters, could have implications that range from optical computing to the fiber-optic telecommunications industry.
On the screen, a small pulse shifts back and forth - just a little bit. But this seemingly unremarkable phenomenon could have profound technological consequences. It represents the success of Luc Thévenaz and his fellow researchers in the Nanophotonics and Metrology laboratory at EPFL in controlling the speed of light in a simple optical fiber. They were able not only to slow light down by a factor of three from its well - established speed c of 300 million meters per second in a vacuum, but they've also accomplished the considerable feat of speeding it up - making light go faster than the speed of light."
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-08/epfd-ltt081905.php
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Gotta question... What do you think they mean when they say, "...only a portion of the signal is affected."?
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Double-A - 30 Oct 2006 05:02 GMT > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Light that travels... faster than light! [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Gotta question... What do you think they mean when > they say, "...only a portion of the signal is affected."? They are probably getting around to saying that these are group velocities and cannot carry information FTL.
But consider this:
http://renshaw.teleinc.com/papers/superlum/superlum.stm
John Zinni - 30 Oct 2006 14:32 GMT > But consider this: > > http://renshaw.teleinc.com/papers/superlum/superlum.stm Consider this:
"Curt has two daughters, Catherine Sophia Rinaldi and Taylor Marie Feagin, each born in 1981, and twin sons, David Eugene Renshaw, PhD and Albert Einstein Renshaw, PhD, born in 1994." http://renshaw.teleinc.com/resume.stm
Considering his sons were born in 1994, it is reasonable to assume that this nut bar has incorporated PhD as part of his sons legal names.
(this is only the first of several "red flags" on this nut bars site)
Double-A - 30 Oct 2006 21:15 GMT > > But consider this: > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > (this is only the first of several "red flags" on this nut bars site) Out of historical interest, I have long sought to find again a reference to the first person to propose a theory such as what Curt Renshaw now calls his Radiation Continuum Model (RCM), the idea that light may travel at many different speeds, but that we can only percieve it at one speed. I found it! It was the great French scientist of the early nineteenth century, Dominique François Jean Arago.
"II. ARAGO’S EXPERIMENT As was already mentioned, Arago thought that the refraction of a light ray by a prism depended on the velocity of the prism. Specifically, Arago stated that only the velocity of light relative to the prism should enter the refraction law. Thus, since the prism moves together with the Earth, a starlight ray would suffer different deviations depending on thedirection of the ray with respect to the motion of the Earth. These differences would turn out to be maximal between rays traveling in the same direction as the Earth and rays traveling in the opposite direction.
Arago mounted an achromatic prism on the objective lens of a telescope, and he observed several stars through the prism. By comparing this apparent position with the real position of each star, Arago determined how the prism deviated the light rays coming from each star.He expected different angles of deviation for different stars. However, Arago declared: “the rays of all stars are subjected to the same deviations; the slight differences found do notfollow any law”.
Arago made the measurements in two different times of the year. On March 19 and March27, he utilized a prism of 24◦and a mural telescope to measure the distances from the starsup to the zenith. On October 8, Arago used a larger prism to cover a half of the objective lens of an improved telescope (namely a repeating circle), which permitted more precise measurements. In this way, the telescope could receive the starlight directly from the star or previously deviated by the prism (the angle between these two different directions, corrected by the time elapsed between both measurements, was the deviation angle). The results are reproduced in Tables I, II and III (the measurements are displayed in the way Arago did it; besides we added the approximated times when the stars passed by the Paris meridian to help in locating the stars in the sky, as Fig. 1 shows). The motion of the earth around the Sun (30 km/s) was enough to generate meaningful differences in the deviation angle ofstars passing the meridian at 6.00 a.m. and stars passing it at 6.00 p.m. In the first case,the starlight is opposite to the motion of the Earth; in the second one, the starlight goes inthe same direction than the Earth. For these two extreme cases, Arago expected differences of 12” with the prism of 24◦ used in March, and 28” in the measurements performed inOctober. However, there were no traces of any composition of motion entering Snell’s lawin the results obtained by Arago.
Arago convinced himself that the only possible interpretation of his null result, in the context of the corpuscular model, was that the sources emit light with all sort of velocities.But our eyes are only sensitive to a narrow band of them. Thus, we are always detecting the same kind of corpuscles, and no differences can be found in their refraction. Concerning the wave theory of light, Arago said that “the explanation for the refraction in this theory is based on a simple hypothesis that is very difficult to submit to calculation. Therefore, I cannot determine in a precise way whether the velocity of the refractive body has some influence on the refraction...”"
http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:xb0HzyEKrSQJ:arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0412055+ %22Fresnel%22+%22water+filled+telescopes%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4
http://chem.ch.huji.ac.il/~eugeniik/history/arago.html
Double-A
nightbat - 30 Oct 2006 13:19 GMT nightbat wrote
> Light that travels... faster than light! > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Double-A nightbat
Thanks for that report Commander and perhaps our Captain Greysky can further input on this report. These are exciting times what with the reported Officer Warhol's dooms day comet world about to end, never ending wars, plagues, planet overheating, rising tide waters, US being overrun by Mexicans, Sean unofficial contact, out west mega devil fires, super storms, fake everything for real, whining coffee boys, teleportation, back alive long dormant volcanos, sea life gone bonkers, and now FTL cable, Captain Greysky will be proud.
ponder on, the nightbat
Michael Baldwin, Bruce - 30 Oct 2006 13:26 GMT > nightsoil wrote > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > ponder on, > the fr00tbat Don't worry, FrOOtL00p, with your giant megaton ice bombs and your super coastal counter velocity earth fans, you'll be fine.
greysky - 31 Oct 2006 15:37 GMT > nightbat wrote > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > ponder on, > the nightbat Yes, this is a real accomplishment. There is a real usefulness in making light go slower than C, as well as faster. Namely, in the reduction of noise. Going faster than C, is going to be useful if they can incorporate this phenomena in the construction of integrated circuits. Having a CPU with FTL lines running through it and connecting the various subsections will allow fast processors - I'd like to see the next generation of Intel Pentiums having not only multiple CPUs in them, but running at 100 THz. However, for the act of communicating through the Aether, any system that relies on cables is going to be inherently limited as a point to point comm. device. I'm not going to replace my quantum signaling device with one of these any time son...
Captain Greysky
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