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Space Forum / Astronomy / July 2006Cosmic Evolution of Nebulae
My hypothesis is there was a spacetime after the big gamma bust had died down and the spacetime of hydrogen(mostly) and helium gas was distributed evenly(homogenized) through out space. We see this as the way gases work today. What caused these gases to become clumpy and form galaxies millions of light years apart. My answer is great space shock waves. Bert > My hypothesis is there was a spacetime after the big gamma bust had died > down and the spacetime of hydrogen(mostly) and helium gas was > distributed evenly(homogenized) through out space. We see this as the > way gases work today. What caused these gases to become clumpy and form > galaxies millions of light years apart. My answer is great space shock > waves. Bert How about those ripples in the neutrinos I posted about? Double-A > My hypothesis is there was a spacetime after the big gamma bust had died > down and the spacetime of hydrogen(mostly) and helium gas was > distributed evenly(homogenized) through out space. We see this as the > way gases work today. What caused these gases to become clumpy and form > galaxies millions of light years apart. My answer is great space shock > waves. Bert Beeert, there is a more logical explanation for this phenomena. In any explosion, be it the Big Bang or a cherry bomb, there are outwardly radiating forces. However, they propagate at ever so slightly different speeds. Any time that happens, vortexes are created. The best example I can think of is the water spiraling down a drain in your sink. It is caused by the speed differential in the Earth's totation between ay two points, in the case of the drain spiral it is only inches, but nonetheless, the differential exists. The only two areas on Earth where there is no speed differential is on the true north pole and the true south pole, with the equator having the greatest momentum; but you know all that. Each atom has a mass and therefore gravitational properties. In a vortex, if you have several atoms clumped together, their combined mass increases their gravitational properties, thus attracting other single atoms to join the club, so to speak. As the mass grows and its gravitational pull attracts more and more loose atoms, its internal pressures also increase dramatically. Since the original universe consisted of about 75% hydrogen and 25% helium, which respectively are the lightest and the second lightest elements known, it took a huge amount of them to create a ball huge enough to ignite the nuclear furnace and create a star. Since the first stars in the universe were totally un-contaminated by other elements (they hadn't been created yet), the hydrogen and then the helium fusion process completed in a relative short time, measured in millions of years, before the star went super nova and seeded the universe with all of the heavier elements. That super nova explosion also created new vortexes, which created new stars. The newly created stars, however, also contained all the heavier elements created by the original progenitor stars and thus the fusion process was slowed down by that contamination. Our sun is thought to be a third generation star, with a life cycle of appr. 10 billion years. Most second and third generation stars do not go supernova. They are limited in physical size, because the heavier elements contained in them require less mass to start the fusion process, at which point stars cease growing. The area surrounding them has been "vacuumed" clean either by the star or by planets accreting in orbits around the star. That's my story and I'm sticking with it, Beeert. The coriolis force does not operate over such small dimensions as sink drains, Hagar! Saul Levy >> My hypothesis is there was a spacetime after the big gamma bust had died >> down and the spacetime of hydrogen(mostly) and helium gas was [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >planets accreting in orbits around the star. >That's my story and I'm sticking with it, Beeert. > The coriolis force does not operate over such small dimensions as sink > drains, Hagar! > > Saul Levy Yet a persistent myth. When I was a student, I tried to demonstrate this "scientific" principle. However, I could find no consistency in the directions of the vortices formed. Little did I know that this was just the tip of the iceberg of all the bullshit I was being taught in our fine educational system. That is why even today, I question everything! Double-A There was no consistency because it isn't caused by a coriolis force, DA. The direction depends on local factors of the drain only. Saul Levy >> The coriolis force does not operate over such small dimensions as sink >> drains, Hagar! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Double-A Double-A Good for you. Question every thing makes us think of other possibilities. Read a chapter in a science book and try to add to it.That makes you think. Alway think in every direction. Never become a parrot only repeating the thoughts of others. Be your own mental boss. Teachers should teach their students to think. It is new ideas that move humankind into the future. Bert > Double-A Good for you. Question every thing makes us think of other > possibilities. Read a chapter in a science book and try to add to > it.That makes you think. Alway think in every direction. Never become a > parrot only repeating the thoughts of others. Be your own mental boss. > Teachers should teach their students to think. It is new ideas that move > humankind into the future. Bert There was no formal teaching during my education of logic, valid and invalid arguments, or how to think straight. I had to read some books on my own during high shcool that showed me how I was being mislead by politicions, etc, using invalid and dishonest argument tactics in their harangues. All the facts they make you memorize in school are mostly forgotten years later. But learning the habit of logical thinking might stay with you the rest of your life. Well, what would you expect of a school that brought out a local water witch to tell them where their pipes were buried! Double-A Double-A your post shows teaches only want their students to have the knowledge of others. (be knowledgeable) that is good up to a point. Maybe I lived in the best of peacetimes(great depression) I was an only child,and until my mother died she worked very hard to keep a roof over my head. I skipped school more than I went. You can not live without bread and money is bread. Not having a teacher to explain the thoughts of others was good and bad for me.Like Einstein that had bad teachers I really had none. Good because when reading a page out of a science book I would not turn to the next page unless I could think out and make sense out of what I just read. No use reading if what you read is over your head. No use reading a word without knowing its definition. I miss my genius late friend Joe. He like oc friend Wolton was so nice to relate too. We argued a lot,and I miss him so very much. Bert > > Double-A Good for you. Question every thing makes us think of other > > possibilities. Read a chapter in a science book and try to add to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Double-A Water-witching works! I can even do it. OHJ > > > Double-A Good for you. Question every thing makes us think of other > > > possibilities. Read a chapter in a science book and try to add to [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > OHJ I just knew somebody would jump to its defense! But I'm a skeptic because it didn't work for me. Double-A > > > > Double-A Good for you. Question every thing makes us think of other > > > > possibilities. Read a chapter in a science book and try to add to [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Double-A Not everyone has the "touch of the Fonz". I do. OHJ > > > > > Double-A Good for you. Question every thing makes us think of other > > > > > possibilities. Read a chapter in a science book and try to add to [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > OHJ I'm surprised that a good Christian like you would have anything to do with a practice that had the word "witch" in it. Don't you suspect that it might be the Devil who's tugging on the end of that dowsing rod? Double-A > > > > > > Double-A Good for you. Question every thing makes us think of other > > > > > > possibilities. Read a chapter in a science book and try to add to [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Double-A You are correct, and that's why I don't do it anymore, including finding things and answering questions with a crystal swinging on the end of a gold chain. But never doubt that those things work in the "right" hands. O.H.J. Sorry to disappoint you there, Saul, but it is exactly the Coriolis effect that causes it. Do a Google search. The cannot be any other explanation. If you have one, please enlighten me. > The coriolis force does not operate over such small dimensions as sink > drains, Hagar! [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >planets accreting in orbits around the star. > >That's my story and I'm sticking with it, Beeert. Local factors of the drain only. Saul Levy >Sorry to disappoint you there, Saul, but it is exactly the Coriolis effect >that causes it. Do a Google search. The cannot be any other explanation. [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >> >planets accreting in orbits around the star. >> >That's my story and I'm sticking with it, Beeert. I remember seeing a childrens science program with my son in tv not so long ago, where they did a experiment here i my native country Denmark with 10 different sinks filled with water, and they also had a reporter in Australia doing the same test to see if the vortex would go the other way when they let out the water, the result was very clear: it was the local factor of the drain only since the vortex did go both ways or in some cases straight out no matter where they did the test > Local factors of the drain only. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >> > >> Saul Levy -snip ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Jeg beskyttes af den gratis SPAMfighter til privatbrugere. Den har indtil videre sparet mig for at få 9445 spam-mails Betalende brugere får ikke denne besked i deres e-mails. Hent en gratis SPAMfighter her. Starman Letterman had a toilet flush in NYC and one in Sidney Australia to prove the water spun in the same direction. Bert > Starman Letterman had a toilet flush in NYC and one in Sidney Australia > to prove the water spun in the same direction. Bert Toilets are designed to force the water to swirl in one direction only. Jets under the rim shoot out the water in the direction that it should go. So the water would swirl in the same direction wherever on Earth you flushed it. Double-A Double-A Thank you thank you. Right you are. How did I miss that. Good observation and thinking on your part. You are now my ideal thinker. However not when it comes to BH Bert > Double-A Thank you thank you. Right you are. How did I miss that. Good > observation and thinking on your part. You are now my ideal thinker. > However not when it comes to BH Bert Ah shucks, Bert it was nothing. Maybe I've just had my head in the toilet more than you. (Beer guzzling went against me when I was starting out.) Double-A nightbat wrote > My hypothesis is there was a spacetime after the big gamma bust had died > down and the spacetime of hydrogen(mostly) and helium gas was > distributed evenly(homogenized) through out space. We see this as the > way gases work today. What caused these gases to become clumpy and form > galaxies millions of light years apart. My answer is great space shock > waves. Bert nightbat Correct Officer Bert and those sub quantum shock waves are still going on even today. The field is very conserving onto itself yet permits non uniform impulse to take place. Quantum energy is all around us hence the ability to send wireless transmission for great distances via frequency directed generated impulses. The deduced field memory pointing great initial impulse which theoretically disturbed the pure quantum uniform energy field is the question. ponder on, the nightbat nightbat We are told how stars formed out of gas and dust. The dust coming from a supernova explosion creating a space shock wave to disrupt this homogenized hydrogen helium cloud,so that it would be easier for gravity to compress. This begs the question. How was this very dense supernova star created when there was no dust,or shock waves?? Naturally I have an answer. Bert |
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