Standard Deviation of Evolution: 2006 A.D.
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Anno Domini - 21 Feb 2006 07:59 GMT Scientific evidence proves that pre-historic man had some sort of belief in supernatural deities:
"A growing number of anthropologists and archeo-mythologists argue that the prevailing ideology of belief in prehistoric Europe and much of the world was based on the worship of a single earth goddess, who was assumed to be the fount of all life and who radiated harmony among all living things." - Al Gore (Earth in the Balance; Ecology and the Human Spirit)
"Much of the evidence for the existence of this primitive religion comes from the many thousands of artifacts uncovered in ceremonial sites. These sites are so widespread that they seem to confirm the notion that a goddess religion was ubiquitous throughout much of the world until the antecedents of today's religions - most of which still have a distinctly masculine orientation - swept out of India and the Near East, almost obliterating belief in the goddess. The last vestige of organized goddess worship was eliminated by Christianity" - Al Gore (Earth in the Balance; Ecology and the Human Spirit)
Yet around 600 B.C. (before the birth of Jesus) and in the name of "science" men began to employ themselves idiotically in the futile attempt to remove the notion of the existance of supernatural beings from the fabric of their current culture...
"The early Greek, or Hellenic, culture marked a different approach to science. The Ionian natural philosophers removed the gods from the personal roles they had played in the cosmologies of Babylonia and Egypt and sought to order the world according to philosophical principles. Thales of Miletus (6th cent. B.C.) was one of the earliest of these and contributed to astronomy, geometry, and cosmology. He was followed by Anaximander, who extended Thales' ideas and proposed that the universe is composed of four basic elements, i.e., earth, air, fire, and water; this theory was also taught by Empedocles (5th cent. B.C.) in Sicily."
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Science&gwp=8&curta b=2222_1&linktext=science
Enter Charles Darwin whom many of you think fathered the theory of evolution. In fact, Darwin pilfered his notions from other scientists, some who had come before him (such as his grandfather for one):
"Charles Darwin's grandfather, Erasmus Darwin, was one of the leading intellectuals of eighteenth century England, a man with a remarkable array of interests and pursuits. Erasmus Darwin was a respected physician, a well known poet, philosopher, botanist, and naturalist. As a naturalist, he formulated one of the first formal theories on evolution in Zoonomia, or, The Laws of Organic Life (1794-1796). He also presented his evolutionary ideas in verse, in particular in the posthumously published poem The Temple of Nature."
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/Edarwin.html
For your reading convenience, I dug up that poem. Here it is:
"Organic life beneath the shoreless waves Was born and nurs'd in ocean's pearly caves; First forms minute, unseen by spheric glass, Move on the mud, or pierce the watery mass; These, as successive generations bloom, New powers acquire and larger limbs assume; Whence countless groups of vegetation spring, And breathing realms of fin and feet and wing." - Erasmus Darwin. (The Temple of Nature, 1802)
And here, Darwins grandfather clearly (and falsely, in true false scientific fashion) suggests that all living things "evolved" from a common ancestor. And I admit being startled myself upon discovering this tidbit of history since I'd previously blamed Darwin (Charles) for single handedly corrupting science and everything good about Biology (which is my secular profession). Professors will not tell you this stuff. Anyhow here it is. This quote from Charles Darwins grandfather proves that Darwin himself does not deserve all the credit (blame) for coming up with the theory (lie) of human evolution a.k.a... the lie concerning the "common ancestor" theory:
"Would it be too bold to imagine that, in the great length of time since the earth began to exist, perhaps millions of ages before the commencement of the history of mankind would it be too bold to imagine that all warm-blooded animals have arisen from one living filament, which the great First Cause endued with animality, with the power of acquiring new parts, attended with new propensities, directed by irritations, sensations, volitions and associations, and thus possessing the faculty of continuing to improve by its own inherent activity, and of delivering down these improvements by generation to its posterity, world without end!" Erasmus Darwin (Zoönomia, 1794)
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Erasmus+Darwin
Did you see what he said? Independent organisms which need no God atall.
So from grandpaw to grandson was the torch to passed in order to attempt to remove supernatural concepts and possibilities from the minds of men... all under the disguise of "science":
The lie began to spread (as a tool of the devil) under the name of "science":
"Ernst Haeckel, much like Herbert Spencer, was always quotable, even when wrong. Although best known for the famous statement "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny", he also coined many words commonly used by biologists today, such as phylum, phylogeny, and ecology."
"Although trained as a physician, Haeckel abandoned his practice in 1859 after reading Darwin's Origin of Species. Always suspicious of teleological and mystical explanation, Haeckel used the Origin as ammunition both to attack entrenched religious dogma and to build his own unique world view."
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/haeckel.html
On my exact birthday 95 years ago Charles Darwins "Origin of the Species" was actually published as "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life". So here am I, 95 years later finding myself trying to correct al these lies as if it were my divine duty.
"First published on 24 November 1859, The Origin of Species (full title On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life) by British naturalist Charles Darwin is one of the pivotal works in scientific history, and arguably the pre-eminent work in biology. In it, Darwin makes "one long argument" for his theory that "groups" of organisms, (which we now call populations) rather than individual organisms, gradually evolve through the process of natural selectiona mechanism effectively introduced to the public at large by the book. The work presents detailed scientific evidence he had accumulated both on the Voyage of the Beagle in the 1830s and since his return, painstakingly laying out his theory and refuting the doctrine of "Created kinds" underlying the theories of Creation biology which were then widely accepted."
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/The+Origin+of+Species
Of course. Darwin fell to (pseudo) "science" and became an X-christian. Formerly, he was a Bible quoting Christian....
"During these two years I was led to think much about religion. Whilst on board the Beagle I was quite orthodox, and I remember being heartily laughed at by several of the officers (though themselves orthodox) for quoting the Bible as an unanswerable authority on some point of morality." - Charles Darwin (The Autobiography of Charles Darwin)
However, the devil has finally conceded that man will never easily relinquish his belief in the supernatural and will never surrender his God given rights of "faith".
And thus "science", in this modern day and time reverts to mans earlier primordial superstitions of goddess worship in a last ditch effort to deceive him:
"In science, a Gaia theory is a class of scientific models of the biosphere in which life fosters and maintains suitable conditions for itself by affecting Earth's environment. The first such theory was created by the English atmospheric scientist James Lovelock in 1969. He hypothesized that the living matter of the planet functioned like a single organism and named this self-regulating living system after the Greek goddess Gaia."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_theory_%28science%29
Lovelock was no insignificant scientists seeing that he was employed at NASA's Jet Propulslsion Lab: "A lifelong inventor, some of his inventions were adopted by NASA in their program of planetary exploration. It was while working for NASA that Lovelock developed the Gaia Hypothesis."
"James Lovelock is the author of approximately 200 scientific papers, distributed almost equally among topics in Medicine, Biology, Instrument Science and Geophysiology. He has filed more than 50 patents, mostly for detectors for use in chemical analysis. One of these, the electron capture detector, was important in the development of environmental awareness."
"For me, the personal revelation of Gaia came quite suddenly - like a flash of enlightenment. I was in a small room on the top floor of a building at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California. It was the autumn of 1965 ... and I was talking with a colleague, Dian Hitchcock, about a paper we were preparing ... It was at that moment that I glimpsed Gaia."
http://www.gaianet.fsbusiness.co.uk/gaiatheory.html
However, this is no great surprise seeing that the Bible perfectly explains that "evolution" is not the problem, but that "devolution" is the culprit of the latter days of civilization as we know it. The "devolution" of mankind is simply summarized as being a state of being of men by which they have somehow (by democic influence) lost "faith".
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils" (1 Timothy 4:1)
comments welcome, as always
Jd A.D. 2006
Anno Domini" is Latin for "in the year of Our Lord", referring to Our Lord Jesus Christ. That is, "AD 1996" literally means "in the 1996'th year since the birth of the Christ." Now not all the world is Christian, so it makes no sense for a Jew, a Moslem, a Hindu, a Witch, a Druid, or an atheist to refer to the date as being in the year of "their Lord" when they don't follow him. So "CE" is a more considerate way of labeling dates in the Gregorian calendar without rubbing non-Christian's noses in the fact that so much of the world is using a calendar based on the alleged birth-year of the man we Christians believe to be the Messiah.
http://www.radix.net/~dglenn/defs/ce.html
Perseid - 21 Feb 2006 08:35 GMT Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words
> Scientific evidence proves that pre-historic man had some sort of > belief in supernatural deities: That's not going to take much convincing. Prehistoric, even pre-industrial, people were commonly superstitious. They made things up to explain all sorts of things they couldn't understand.
Anno Domini - 25 Feb 2006 02:11 GMT >Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >pre-industrial, people were commonly superstitious. They made >things up to explain all sorts of things they couldn't understand. So how do explain the fact that every U.S. President without exception has acknowledged God?
George Washington, 1st, "... that Almighty Being who rules over the universe..."
John Adams, 2nd, "... that Being who is supreme over all, the Patron of Order, the Fountain of Justice
Thomas Jefferson, 3rd, "And may that Infinite Power which rules the destinies of the universe lead our councils to what is best, and give them a favorable issue for your peace and prosperity."
James Madison, 4th, "... that Almighty Being whose power regulates the destiny of nations, whose blessings have been so conspicuously dispensed to this rising Republic, and to whom we are bound to address our devout gratitude for the past, as well as our fervent supplications and best hopes for the future."
James Monroe, 5th, "... with a firm reliance on the protection of Almighty God..."
John Quincy Adams, 6th, "... knowing that Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh in vain..."
Andrew Jackson, 7th, "... my fervent prayer to that Almighty Being before whom I now stand..."
Martin Van Buren, 8th, "... that Divine Being whose strengthening support I humbly solicit..."
William Henry Harrison, 9th, "... the Beneficent Creator has made no distinction amongst men..."
John Tyler, 10th, "... the all-wise and all-powerful Being who made me..."
James Polk, 11th, "... in their worship of the Almighty according to the dictates of their own conscience..."
Zachary Taylor, 12th, "... to which the goodness of Divine Providence has conducted our common country..."
Millard Fillmore, 13th, "... it has pleased Almighty God to remove from this life Zachary Taylor..."
Franklin Pierce, 14th, "... humble, acknowledged dependence upon God and His overruling providence..."
James Buchanan, 15th, "In entering upon this great office I must humbly invoke the God of our fathers..."
Abraham Lincoln, 16th, "Intelligence, patriotism, Christianity, and a firm reliance on Him, who has never yet forsaken this favored land, are still competent to adjust, in the best way, all our present difficulty."
Andrew Johnson, 17th, "... grief on earth which can only be assuaged by communion with the Father in heaven..."
Ulysses S. Grant, 18th, "I do believe that our Great Maker is preparing the world, in His own good time..."
Rutherford B. Hayes, 19th, "... guidance of that Divine Hand by which the destinies of nations and individuals are shaped..."
James Garfield, 20th, "... their fathers God that the Union was preserved, that slavery was overthrown..."
Chester Arthur, 21st, "I assume the trust imposed by the Constitution, relying for aid on Divine Guidance..."
Grover Cleveland, 22nd, "... the power and goodness of Almighty God who presides over the destiny of nations..."
Benjamin Harrison, 23rd, "... invoke and confidently extend the favor and help of Almighty God - that He will give me wisdom..."
Grover Cleveland, 24th, "I know there is a Supreme Being who rules the affairs of men and whose goodness and mercy have..."
William McKinley, 25th, "Our faith teaches that there is no safer reliance than upon the God of our fathers..."
Theodore Roosevelt, 26th, "... with gratitude to the Giver of Good who has blessed us with the conditions which have enabled us..."
Howard Taft, 27th, "... support of my fellow-citizens and the aid of the Almighty God in the discharge of my responsible duties..."
Woodrow Wilson, 28th, "I summon all honest men, all patriotic men, all froward-looking men, to my side. God helping me, I will not fail them, if they will but counsel and sustain me!"
Warren G. Harding, 29th, "... that passage of Holy Writ wherein it is asked: "What doth the Lord require of thee..."
Calvin Coolidge, 30th, "[America] cherishes no purpose save to merit the favor of Almighty God..."
Herbert Hoover, 31st, "I beg your tolerance, your aid, and your cooperation. I ask the help of Almighty God..."
Franklin D. Roosevelt, 32nd, "In this dedication of a nation we humbly ask the blessing of God..." Id.;
Harry S. Truman, 33rd, "... all men are created equal because they are created in the image of God..."
Dwight D. Eisenhower, 34th, "At such a time in history, we who are free must proclaim anew our faith. This faith is the abiding creed of our fathers. It is our faith in the deathless dignity of man, governed by eternal moral and natural laws. This faith defines our fill view of life. It establishes, beyond debate, those gifts of the Creator that are mans inalienable rights, and that make all men equal in His sight ... The enemies of this faith know no god but force, no devotion but its use... Whatever defies them, they torture, especially the truth. Here, then, is no argument between slightly differing philosophies. This conflict strikes directly at the faith of our fathers and the lives of our sons... This is the work that awaits us all, to be done with bravery, with charity, and with prayer to Almighty God." Angle, By These Words, Eisenhowers Inaugural Address, January 20, 1953 at 532.
John F. Kennedy, 35th, "... the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God..."
Lyndon B. Johnson, 36th, "... the judgement of God is harshest on those who are most favored..."
Richard M. Nixon, 37th, "... as all are born equal in dignity before God, all are born equal in dignity before man..."
Gerald Ford, 38th, "... to uphold the Constitution, to do what is right as God gives me to see the right..."
Jimmy Carter, 39th, "...what does the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God..."
Ronald Reagan, 40th, "... one people under God, dedicated to the dream of freedom that He has placed in the human heart..."
George Bush, 41st, "Heavenly Father, we bow our heads and thank You for Your love..." Id.;
Bill Clinton, 42nd, "... with Gods help, we must answer the call..."
George W. Bush, 43rd, "... this storys Author, Who fills time and eternity with His purpose..." Id.
...And BTW, your reply was the only one which was not composed of pagan religious hatred of the God of Israel.
I take that as a sign that the other repliers were for the most part, almost totally possed by demonic thought as they began to think just how they might reply to my post.
Think of it thusly... "evolution" actually means devolution (devil-ution) under these conditions.
The holy scriptures of the God of Israel given 2000 years ago stated that a few men would be overtaken by demonic doctrine in the latter days....
1Timothy 4:1 "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils"
Somewhere around 3% of the population are atheists. Go figure.
Now. Don't think for even a moment that I'm picking on pure-blooded atheists because I ain't. I happen to have a friend that's an atheists and he is ok. The problem is these X-christians who've turned from Jesus who pretend to be atheists, along with these leftist Jews who hate God, plus the reprobate Sodomites who have no clue concerning repentance, TRUTH and/or the mercy of God.
.....And some of these idjuts are in governemnt trying to make laws (who themselves have no clue that Law itself has a component of FAITH):
So you see, those idjuts have begun to establish for themselves the religion of the secularists called "secular humanism" and they are trying to enforce their religion on the masses and in the meantime, collect taxes from them to propell their ungodly agenda.
Matthew 23:23-24 "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel." - Jesus
Jd, prophet of God A.D. 2006
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." (Declaration of Independence)
Honest John - 25 Feb 2006 02:03 GMT > >Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > > [quoted text clipped - 216 lines] > Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of > Happiness." (Declaration of Independence) Excellent post!
Best regards,
HJ
Anno Domini - 25 Feb 2006 02:59 GMT >> >Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >> > [quoted text clipped - 222 lines] > >HJ Thanks HJ.
Jd
prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com - 25 Feb 2006 12:14 GMT In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote:
<snip boatload of sh.t that these idiots seem to way to re-post just to add one line>
>>Excellent post! >> >>Best regards, >> >>HJ
> Thanks HJ. Exceelent mutual asskissing, both HJ and AD.
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Art Deco - 25 Feb 2006 16:32 GMT >In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Exceelent mutual asskissing, both HJ and AD. Indeed.
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Honest John - 25 Feb 2006 17:03 GMT > >In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Indeed. It sure is funny how just one reference to lips on a.s and Art "Rump Ranger" Deco shows up!!
HJ
Photo of Art Deco (Carl R Osterwald)
http://www.nrel.gov/ncpv/performance_reliability/images/photo_staff_carl.jpg
Home address:
Carl R Osterwald 40 S Dover St Lakewood, CO 80226
Work number:
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Work email:
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BOSS AT WORK:
Carol Riordan (303) 384-6780 <carol_riodan@nrel.gov>
Anno Domini - 25 Feb 2006 22:48 GMT >In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Exceelent mutual asskissing, both HJ and AD. I can tell what's on your mind. Are you a homo?
Jd
Art Deco - 25 Feb 2006 23:25 GMT >>In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Jd Oh look, another gay laming false Christian hypocrite.
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Honest John - 25 Feb 2006 23:45 GMT > >>In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: > >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Oh look, another gay laming false Christian hypocrite. I see that you are still reposting material cencerning me. I take from this that you want me to continuing to respond in kind by not stopping this little spat. Therefore, you'll get your wish and here is the repost:
Photo of Art Deco (Carl R Osterwald)
http://www.nrel.gov/ncpv/performance_reliability/images/photo_staff_carl.jpg
Home address:
Carl R Osterwald 40 S Dover St Lakewood, CO 80226
Work number:
(303) 384-6764
Work email:
<carl_osterwald@nrel.gov>
Kadaitcha Man - 25 Feb 2006 23:48 GMT Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net>, the paunchy freeloader and attention-seeking pansyboy who likes violent tube lubing with vultures, and whose partner is a party-girl with a skin-headed pocketbook, wrote in <37mdneSQtbAcdp3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@centurytel.net>:
>> Oh look, another gay laming false Christian hypocrite. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > <carl_osterwald@nrel.gov> Real meaning: "If you tell the truth about me, I will stalk you!"
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Art Deco - 25 Feb 2006 23:55 GMT >Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net>, the paunchy freeloader and >attention-seeking pansyboy who likes violent tube lubing with vultures, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Real meaning: "If you tell the truth about me, I will stalk you!" Yep.
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 00:08 GMT > >Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net>, the paunchy freeloader and > >attention-seeking pansyboy who likes violent tube lubing with vultures, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >> > >> Photo of Art Deco (Carl R Osterwald) http://www.nrel.gov/ncpv/performance_reliability/images/photo_staff_carl.jpg
> >> Home address: > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Yep. Responding only!
I see that you are still reposting material cencerning me. I take from this that you want me to continuing to respond in kind by not stopping this little spat. Therefore, you'll get your wish and here is the repost:
Photo of Art Deco (Carl R Osterwald)
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Home address:
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 00:10 GMT Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote in message <u86dnabbA6txbZ3ZRVn-qg@centurytel.net>...
> i have a eating order where i binge and then take laxatives. how can i > stop??? The Chief Instigator - 26 Feb 2006 00:41 GMT [...]
>> >Real meaning: "If you tell the truth about me, I will stalk you!"
>> Yep.
>Responding only! Bullshit. You can't keep from responding.
>I see that you are still reposting material cencerning me. I take from this >that you want me to continuing to respond in kind by not stopping this >little spat. Therefore, you'll get your wish and here is the repost: Idiot. Anyone who follows up to one of your whines is reposting material "cencerning" you. So, you're a stalker who proves it by posting your crap in public newsgroups. Maybe you should hook up with Don Ellis down in Star City. He's got a penchant for that stupidity, too.
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Bob Officer - 26 Feb 2006 04:37 GMT >Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net>, the paunchy freeloader and >attention-seeking pansyboy who likes violent tube lubing with vultures, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Real meaning: "If you tell the truth about me, I will stalk you!" Or even worse: "If you tell the truth about me, I will stalk who I think you are!"
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Kadaitcha Man - 26 Feb 2006 04:42 GMT Bob Officer <bobofficers@invalid.net>, the gray-haired old man and pudgy spinach-queen who likes kinky DNA exchanges with carrier pigeons, and whose partner is a f.ck-bunny with a soft vertical grimace, wrote in <p3c2029pcr5p8gc48ijiptc6t7r7968h02@4ax.com>:
>> Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net>, the paunchy freeloader and >> attention-seeking pansyboy who likes violent tube lubing with [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Or even worse: "If you tell the truth about me, I will stalk who I > think you are!" Shhhhhh. The foole doesn't know.
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Gray Shockley - 26 Feb 2006 07:38 GMT >> Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net>, the paunchy freeloader and >> attention-seeking pansyboy who likes violent tube lubing with vultures, [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Or even worse: "If you tell the truth about me, I will stalk who I > think you are!" I checked my calendar which claims this is Winter but I still think it's the Silly Season.
1 A guy who has been on a newsgroup for well over five years has been called a "stalker" by a guy who has been on the newgroup for about three months and all of this has to do with behavior /inside/ the newsgroup, no other place on the Internet (or anywhere else).
2 President Bush43 signed into law a provision that punishes "anonymous" posters who "annoy" someone else two years of free room and board.
The congress-critter's heart was in the right place - it was designed to punish stalkers - but his brain was concealed within another body part.
And, since President W C Bush43 has never vetoed a bill (is that still correct?), he couldn't start that habit (unless Overlord Cheney tells him to do so, of course).
[I couldn't find where Fred Fubar was covered or not as there was no direct references to the unDead.]
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Art Deco - 25 Feb 2006 23:48 GMT >> >>In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: >> >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Photo of Art Deco (Carl R Osterwald) Boost that BI, clock brain.
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 00:09 GMT > >> >>In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Boost that BI, clock brain. I see that you are still reposting material cencerning me. I take from this that you want me to continuing to respond in kind by not stopping this little spat. Therefore, you'll get your wish and here is the repost:
Photo of Art Deco (Carl R Osterwald)
http://www.nrel.gov/ncpv/performance_reliability/images/photo_staff_carl.jpg
Home address:
Carl R Osterwald 40 S Dover St Lakewood, CO 80226
Work number:
(303) 384-6764
Work email:
<carl_osterwald@nrel.gov>
Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 00:10 GMT Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote in message <6I-dne3IhfCVbJ3ZRVn-tw@centurytel.net>...
> I didn't do it! Nobody saw me do it! You can't prove anything! Kali - 26 Feb 2006 01:42 GMT >>>In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Oh look, another gay laming false Christian hypocrite. They are coming out of the closet.
Kali
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 02:24 GMT > >>>In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: > >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > They are coming out of the closet. That's a GOOD little rat!
HJ
Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 02:25 GMT Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote in message <pZednUtTN6A8jZzZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@centurytel.net>...
> I've got a haemmorrhoid sticking out. It's all squeezy & squashy down > there; it's about the size of a wallnut. Can I snip it off? Perseid - 26 Feb 2006 02:31 GMT "Honest John" <nntp.newsfeed@gmail.com> Spat the Words
> Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote in message > <pZednUtTN6A8jZzZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@centurytel.net>... > >> I've got a haemmorrhoid sticking out. It's all squeezy & squashy down >> there; it's about the size of a wallnut. Can I snip it off? Only if you want a lot of blood everywhere. Hemorrhoids are just inflamed blood vessels. I would suggest Preparation-H.
Honest John - 25 Feb 2006 23:45 GMT > >In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I can tell what's on your mind. Are you a homo? Yes he is, he cruised the city park for boys.
HJ
Art Deco - 25 Feb 2006 23:50 GMT >> >In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >HJ Clock brain is now mixing kookslurps in with his gay lames.
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 00:09 GMT > >> >In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: > >> > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Clock brain is now mixing kookslurps in with his gay lames. I see that you are still reposting material cencerning me. I take from this that you want me to continuing to respond in kind by not stopping this little spat. Therefore, you'll get your wish and here is the repost:
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 00:10 GMT Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote in message <AvednXpxT6y-bJ3ZRVn-rg@centurytel.net>...
> I'm not indecisive...am I? No...well, maybe I am. Anno Domini - 26 Feb 2006 02:45 GMT >> >In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >HJ Just as I thought.
Perhaps after they fix the Roe v Wade thingy they'll fix the sodomite thingy.
Jd
Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 02:51 GMT > >> >In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: > >> > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Jd We must pray for justice.
HJ
Art Deco - 26 Feb 2006 05:57 GMT >> >> >In talk.atheism Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote: >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >HJ You can always spew more gay lames, false Christian hypocrite.
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Geoff - 25 Feb 2006 13:35 GMT > Excellent post! Once again, Honest John does his best impression of a sock-puppet.
Honest John - 25 Feb 2006 17:04 GMT > > Excellent post! > > Once again, Honest John does his best impression of a sock-puppet. Sock puppet of who? You stupid sh.t.
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Geoff - 25 Feb 2006 22:50 GMT >> > Excellent post! >> >> Once again, Honest John does his best impression of a sock-puppet. >> > Sock puppet of who? You stupid sh.t. It's amazing. It looks like it is really a conscious, thinking life form. Yet it never shows anything but reflex. Therefore, can we really say it is truly alive?
Honest John - 25 Feb 2006 23:46 GMT > >> > Excellent post! > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Yet it never shows anything but reflex. Therefore, can we really say it is > truly alive? RETARD
Art Deco - 25 Feb 2006 23:51 GMT >> >> > Excellent post! >> >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >RETARD Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Good one, clock brain.
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 00:10 GMT > >> >> > Excellent post! > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah I see that you are still reposting material cencerning me. I take from this that you want me to continuing to respond in kind by not stopping this little spat. Therefore, you'll get your wish and here is the repost:
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 00:10 GMT Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote in message <pZ6dnYHN_I3cbJ3ZRVn-tA@centurytel.net>...
> There's nothing wrong with eating by yourself at a restaurant. I do it > all the time. Perseid - 25 Feb 2006 05:29 GMT Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words
>>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > So how do explain the fact that every U.S. President without exception > has acknowledged God? Why would I NEED to explain it ? Belief in a god is a personal matter of faith, not something that requires much explanation.
If you're one of those 'Intelligent Design' proponents, I just want to say I really like your argument... "it's just too damn complicated to understand life. we can't explain it so we shouldn't even try." LOVE that argument!!
Anno Domini - 25 Feb 2006 22:48 GMT >Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >damn complicated to understand life. we can't explain it so we >shouldn't even try." LOVE that argument!! Let's try this for a brief moment. I'm a Christian who has no problem sharing my views and explaining them.
What are you?
Jd
Bob Officer - 25 Feb 2006 23:08 GMT >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >What are you? A Native American who can point to the hate speech which has come from the mouth of men which speak for your god.
Did you know one of the worst massacre in american history of Native Americans was led by an so called "Man of God". Actually much of the hate of the Red Man comes from official position in many of the churches that Native American's had no soul and couldn't be saved.
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Honest John - 25 Feb 2006 23:48 GMT > >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > hate of the Red Man comes from official position in many of the > churches that Native American's had no soul and couldn't be saved. I didn't think that until I read the hate in your post!
Have a nice night, APPLE
Art Deco - 25 Feb 2006 23:51 GMT >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >> >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >Have a nice night, APPLE You left your projector on again, clock brain.
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 00:10 GMT > >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > You left your projector on again, clock brain. I see that you are still reposting material cencerning me. I take from this that you want me to continuing to respond in kind by not stopping this little spat. Therefore, you'll get your wish and here is the repost:
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 00:10 GMT Honest John <honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote in message <-a2dnWoWl8T-bJ3ZnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@centurytel.net>...
> Hi , Im a guy and i work with a few other guys in a workshop and one > of them in engaged,well he keeps saying to me ''im gonna f**k u up ur > a$$'' as a joke but recently he said 2 his mate ''havent i got a > record for male rape'' and his mate said ''yes'' but i dont know if he > was lying or not what should u do?? Anno Domini - 26 Feb 2006 02:45 GMT >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >> >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >Have a nice night, APPLE Yeah. These leeches of society hardly deserve a reply.
Jd
Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 02:52 GMT > >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Jd Indeed, they are lazy and drunk leeches.
HJ
Art Deco - 26 Feb 2006 06:00 GMT >> >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > >HJ When do you start posting racist diatribes too, clock brain?
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Bob Officer - 26 Feb 2006 04:14 GMT >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >> >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >I didn't think You didn't think is 100% right.
>that until I read the hate in your post! Facts sort of hurt your beliefs, when you examine them...
>Have a nice night, APPLE Apple?
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 04:28 GMT > >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Apple? Like an Oreo to blacks, Black on the outside and white on the inside. An apple is red on the outside and white on the inside,
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Art Deco - 26 Feb 2006 06:01 GMT >> >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > >HJ There it is.
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Bob Officer - 26 Feb 2006 07:14 GMT >>> >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >>> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > >There it is. I wonder What would their Jesus say to them...
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Bob Officer - 26 Feb 2006 07:05 GMT >> >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >Like an Oreo to blacks, Black on the outside and white on the inside. An >apple is red on the outside and white on the inside, More like Rad as can be... outside... inside...
it is hard to be "Traditional".
But then I am far more traditional than you are a christian.
And JD/Anno is just like you, Dishonest John, a person that uses his religion to justify his hate of others.
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"You are simpy just another whiner like the New Orleans niggers who are seeking to make a life long career out of KATRINA."
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Art Deco - 26 Feb 2006 15:57 GMT >>> >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >>> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] >"You are simpy just another whiner like the New Orleans niggers who >are seeking to make a life long career out of KATRINA." Note: no response from the false Christian hypocrites. No surprise here, really.
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 17:06 GMT > >>> >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > >>> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > Note: no response from the false Christian hypocrites. No surprise > here, really. I thought that you had given up those repostings, but I see you want to continue this silly practice! But I'm going to take a "Higher" road and show your minions of rat followers that I am the better person for not reposting!
Notice ratz that I am not reposting to Art's cowardly taunts, let this be a lesson to you, your leader is just an old frustrated old coot that has soured on life and gets his kicks out of pulling the strings on you small rats, out there.
Keep dancing at his direction, "Little Rats"!
HJ
Art Deco - 26 Feb 2006 17:12 GMT >> >>> >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >> >>> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] >> Note: no response from the false Christian hypocrites. No surprise >> here, really. Note: still no response from the false Christian hypocrite.
>I thought that you had given up those repostings, but I see you want to [screed flushed]
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 17:40 GMT > >> >>> >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > >> >>> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > Note: still no response from the false Christian hypocrite. No surprise you're still gay, Fart Deco!
I thought that you had given up those repostings, but I see you want to continue this silly practice! But I'm going to take a "Higher" road and show your minions of rat followers that I am the better person for not reposting!
Notice ratz that I am not reposting to Art's cowardly taunts, let this be a lesson to you, your leader is just an old frustrated old coot that has soured on life and gets his kicks out of pulling the strings on you small rats, out there.
Keep dancing at his direction, "Little Rats"!
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Art Deco - 26 Feb 2006 20:25 GMT <nothing but his usual screed and lames>
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 21:36 GMT > <nothing but his usual screed and lames> Just responding to your spamming, Fart
I thought that you had given up those repostings, but I see you want to continue this silly practice! But I'm going to take a "Higher" road and show your minions of rat followers that I am the better person for not reposting!
Notice ratz that I am not reposting to Art's cowardly taunts, let this be a lesson to you, your leader is just an old frustrated old coot that has soured on life and gets his kicks out of pulling the strings on you small rats, out there.
Keep dancing at his direction, "Little Rats"!
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Bob Officer - 26 Feb 2006 20:56 GMT >>>> >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >>>> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] >Note: no response from the false Christian hypocrites. No surprise >here, really. It isn't the 1st time a racist has hid behind a collar and robe.
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 21:37 GMT > >>>> >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > >>>> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > It isn't the 1st time a racist has hid behind a collar and robe. Who cares?
Bob Officer - 26 Feb 2006 22:11 GMT >> >>>> >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >> >>>> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > >Who cares? It seems like there happens to be at least two people that care.
Racism is condemned out of one side of the mouth with Hate of People because of a difference of race, spews out of the other side.
KKK claimed to be a christian organization, but hated and killed people not for not being christian, but because of race difference.
Rev John Chivington preach from the Pulpit of a Church, while professing to believe in Christ, planned and plotted Genocide, Rape and Mutilation of people because they were a different race.
Such is the difference between those that think they follow christ, but are nothing more than Saulists. Carrying out acts of hate, rather than the love their jesus commands.
Many people care. only those that worship the dark don't care.
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 22:30 GMT > >> >>>> >> >>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > >> >>>> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > but are nothing more than Saulists. Carrying out acts of hate, rather > than the love their jesus commands. You really need to get over that ancient history and get on with live before you don't have any life left and wondered what the heck you did with your life!
Don't worry, be happy!
HJ
man_in_black529@yahoo.com - 26 Feb 2006 15:43 GMT > Like an Oreo to blacks, Black on the outside and white on the inside. An > apple is red on the outside and white on the inside, And you're like David Irving to Jews, only the U.S. government encourages you to lie.
(I believe Jeff invoked Godwin's law ages ago.)
Gray Shockley - 26 Feb 2006 20:45 GMT >> Like an Oreo to blacks, Black on the outside and white on the inside. An >> apple is red on the outside and white on the inside, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > (I believe Jeff invoked Godwin's law ages ago.) Shockley's Exception to Godwin's Law: When someone is quoting Hitler and his sycophants or someone from neo-nazi orgs, Godwin's Law is irrelevant.
man_in_black529@yahoo.com - 28 Feb 2006 00:41 GMT > >> Like an Oreo to blacks, Black on the outside and white on the inside. An > >> apple is red on the outside and white on the inside, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > someone from neo-nazi orgs, > Godwin's Law is irrelevant. Well, then, it'd be fine for me to say "If we lock up David Irving, we have to lock up every the writers of every American history textbook ever written, along with the current crop of Reagan revisionists who argue that the Contras DIDN'T kill thousands of Mayans, or argue that there were no Norplant experiments on reservations."
Anno Domini - 26 Feb 2006 02:45 GMT >>>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >hate of the Red Man comes from official position in many of the >churches that Native American's had no soul and couldn't be saved. Liar. You are simply being deceptive.
Here's the record which speaks for all Native Americans in the south..
"Urged by these considerations, the Cherokees, long divided in opinion, became unanimous, and like their brethren, the Creeks, Seminoles, Choctaws, and Chickasaws, determined, by the undivided voice of a General Convention of all the people, held at Tahlequah, on the 21st day of August, in the present year, to make common cause with the South and share its fortunes.
In now carrying this resolution into effect and consummating a treaty of alliance and friendship with the Confederate States of America the Cherokee people declares that it has been faithful and loyal to is engagements with the United States until, by placing its safety and even its national existence in imminent peril, those States have released them from those engagements.
Menaced by a great danger, they exercise the inalienable right of self-defense, and declare themselves a free people, independent of the Northern States of America, and at war with them by their own act. Obeying the dictates of prudence and providing for the general safety and welfare, confident of the rectitude of their intentions and true to the obligations of duty and honor, they accept the issue thus forced upon them, unite their fortunes now and forever with those of the Confederate States, and take up arms for the common cause, and with entire confidence in the justice of that cause and with a firm reliance upon Divine Providence, will resolutely abide the consequences." - Tahlequah, Cherokee Nation, October 28, 1861.
You are simpy just another whiner like the New Orleans niggers who are seeking to make a life long career out of KATRINA.
Don't reply to me any more you scum bag.
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 02:53 GMT > >>>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > >>> [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > > Jd, prophet of God A.D. 2006 Very true.
HJ
Art Deco - 26 Feb 2006 05:59 GMT >> >>>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > >HJ How nice, slurping your racist "brother". Froth on, false Christian hypocrite.
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Bob Officer - 26 Feb 2006 05:15 GMT >>>>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >>>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >Here's the record which speaks for all Native Americans in the south.. Maybe you need a citation of the
> "Urged by these considerations, the Cherokees, long divided >in opinion, became unanimous, and like their brethren, the Creeks, >Seminoles, Choctaws, and Chickasaws, determined, by the undivided >voice of a General Convention of all the people, held at Tahlequah, on >the 21st day of August, in the present year, to make common cause with >the South and share its fortunes. you know there were still Native American living that remember the court case that the US Federal Government ignored. The Us proceeded to move the Cherokee Nation, Even after the SCoUS decided in the Cherokee's favor.
http://www.comanchelodge.com/western-cherokee.html Might change your mind...
However this fact stands plain:
http://www.lastoftheindependents.com/BlackKettle.html and http://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/people/a_c/blackkettle.htm
"But Colonel John Chivington, leader of the Third Colorado Volunteers, had no intention of honoring such a promise. His troops had been unsuccessful in finding a Cheyenne band to fight, so when he learned that Black Kettle had returned to Sand Creek, he attacked the unsuspecting encampment at dawn on November 29, 1864. Some two hundred Cheyenne died in the ensuing massacre, many of them women and children, and after the slaughter, Chivington's men sexually mutilated and scalped many of the dead, later exhibiting their trophies to cheering crowds in Denver."
the Masacre was led by this man:
http://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/people/a_c/chivington.htm
"Soon after this incident, the Methodist Church sent Chivington to Omaha, Nebraska to escape the tumult of Missouri. He and his family remained in Nebraska until 1860, when he was made the presiding elder of the Rocky Mountain District of the Methodist Church and moved to Denver to build a church and found a congregation."
http://www.goldenfirstumc.org/history/pastors/klingman/org21880.htm
http://164.107.4.25/mailing_lists/CLA-L/2001/11/0020.php
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>Closer to our time and in Prof. Cramer's own state, Colonel John M. >Chivington made a speech in Denver advocating killing and scalping >all Indians, even infants, declaring "Nits make lice!" So claimed S.E. Browne, U.S. Attorney in Colorado, in an affidavit submitted to the U.S. Senate and published in the "Reports of the Committees" of the 39th Congress, second session (Washington, Gov't. Printing Office, 1967), p. 71 (cited in David Svaldi, "Sand Creek and the Rhetoric of Extermination," Univ. Press. of America, 1989, 291). According to Browne, Chivington announced in a speech delivered in late August, 1864, "that his policy was to 'kill and scalp all little and big; that nits made lice.'"
If Rev. Chivington did say this, he was apparently no more original than he was humane. The Mormon David Lewis, in a memoir begun in 1854, recorded that Missouri militiamen enforcing Gov. Lilburne Bogg's "extermination order" against the Mormons, justified the killing of Mormon children at Haun's Mill on Oct. 30, 1838, by declaring that "Little shoots make big trees" and "Nits make lice." (See Juanita Brooks, "John Doyle Lee," Glendale, 1962, 37.) Fawn Brodie quotes the militaman who blew out the brains of 9-year-old Sardius Smith as saying, "It's best to hive them when we can. Nits will make lice." ("No Man Knows My History," 2nd ed., 1971, 237). "
Nice to such hate from the men, called to preach by your god. nothing but hate...
If I didn't know better, I would think your church that of your own mythical satan... the evil one.
> In now carrying this resolution into effect and >consummating a treaty of alliance and friendship with the Confederate >States of America the Cherokee people declares that it has been >faithful and loyal to is engagements with the United States until, by >placing its safety and even its national existence in imminent peril, >those States have released them from those engagements. Do you know much about the treaties and interaction with Washington? How many agreements were broken by the whites with the blessings of the US Federal Government?
> Menaced by a great danger, they exercise the inalienable >right of self-defense, and declare themselves a free people, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >You are simpy just another whiner like the New Orleans niggers who are >seeking to make a life long career out of KATRINA. Nice Bit of Race hatred there... I am sure today you made your jesus proud of you...
Do you wear your sheets proudly?
>Don't reply to me any more you scum bag. LOL... Your feeling are hurt...
>Jd, prophet of God A.D. 2006 you sound more like a satanist...
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Anno Domini - 02 Mar 2006 03:23 GMT >you know there were still Native American living that remember the >court case that the US Federal Government ignored. The Us proceeded [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] >If I didn't know better, I would think your church that of your own >mythical satan... the evil one. You are obviously stuck in the past and in the hatred of Christianity since you overlooked the fact that I was talking about Injuns of the south and you are talking about Colorado pagan injuns.
I wouldn't even doubt if you yourself had a TOTEM pole in your backyard, you idolitrous, unrepentant pagan.
Lookie here.... all repentant souls admit the shortcomings of their ancestors. But you my friend, are simply like the rest of paganhood which seeks to gain an edge by the use of emotional humanistic techniques and ploys.
That crap simply doesn't work with me.
So quit writing me and go try to find some other lukewarm victims to pour your puke upon.
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Bob Officer - 02 Mar 2006 15:42 GMT >>you know there were still Native American living that remember the >>court case that the US Federal Government ignored. The Us proceeded [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] >since you overlooked the fact that I was talking about Injuns of the >south and you are talking about Colorado pagan injuns. You mean there is some sort of difference? I being a Native American know I share not only a root set of culture, I also share a Some parts of my language with many different tribes...
>I wouldn't even doubt if you yourself had a TOTEM pole in your >backyard, you idolitrous, unrepentant pagan. That would be an part of the culture of far northwestern Native Americans...
>Lookie here.... all repentant souls admit the shortcomings of their >ancestors. But you my friend, are simply like the rest of paganhood >which seeks to gain an edge by the use of emotional humanistic >techniques and ploys. No I want you to know what sort of god you are following, and where your churches are historically coming from... But then you have don'e nothing to show you are anything but a hateful minion of Satan, an unrepentant Saulist.
>That crap simply doesn't work with me. > >So quit writing me and go try to find some other lukewarm victims to >pour your puke upon. I think I will play with you a while longer... Poking Fake Christians and racist is fun.
>Jd, prophet of God A.D. 2006 More like a Satanist... if you go by what you have written.
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Honest John - 02 Mar 2006 16:39 GMT > >>you know there were still Native American living that remember the > >>court case that the US Federal Government ignored. The Us proceeded [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > > More like a Satanist... if you go by what you have written. Bobbie Baby, you need to get a grip on reality and get over this "I'm a Red Man and everybody should feel sorry for poor little me" attitude. Join the human race and repent of your sins and get saved in a Pentecostal Church and give your mental problems to God. I know that you'll feel better than you do now.
HJ
Art Deco - 03 Mar 2006 00:59 GMT >>>Nice to such hate from the men, called to preach by your god. nothing >>>but hate... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >know I share not only a root set of culture, I also share a Some >parts of my language with many different tribes... Note that the fine, upstanding Christian "prophet" employs yet another racial epithet.
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"Didn't you bet a merit badge in Gopher Choking, bugger Boy?"
"We don't discuss religion anymore you f.cking idiot! Eat some more sh.t" -- Honest John, Christian evangelist
Honest John - 03 Mar 2006 01:07 GMT > >>>Nice to such hate from the men, called to preach by your god. nothing > >>>but hate... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Note that the fine, upstanding Christian "prophet" employs yet another > racial epithet. If your HOMO friend had proper religion he wouldn't have died such a horrible death. Why didn't you lead him to the Light, the only way to save homos! Your lack of action led to his early death. LOSER!!
STROKE MY THRILLHAMMER YOU SLUT!
- Art Deco a.k.a. "sh.t for brains"
If you want me I'll be in the attic stalking the rats which have become a problem as they are now armed.
- Art Deco a.k.a. "Fatty Arbuckle"
Sweetheart. its going to take a lot more than that to get into my panties.
- Art Deco a.k.a. "Cinderella"
Gotta go now. Don't wanna miss the church burning tonight. Always get a front row seat.
- Art Deco a.k.a. "Psycho Dave"
... I declare myself to be Pope Eggs IV. Kneel before me my child and kiss the ring. Or my feet.
- Art Deco a.k.a. "Eggs Xactly"
I want you dead.
- Art Deco a.k.a. "Psycho Phil"
If anybody is looking for me I'll be in bed until June 12th.
- Art Deco a.k.a. "Capt. Nitwit"
The hardest part was strapping him down and shooting him up with the street-grade downers. Slippery little devil.
- Art Deco a.k.a. "Baron von Schmuck"
Bob Officer - 03 Mar 2006 07:25 GMT >>>>Nice to such hate from the men, called to preach by your god. nothing >>>>but hate... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Note that the fine, upstanding Christian "prophet" employs yet another >racial epithet. I noticed that...
I am glad other people do too.
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Honest John - 03 Mar 2006 17:39 GMT > >>>>Nice to such hate from the men, called to preach by your god. nothing > >>>>but hate... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > I am glad other people do too. Sold to the porch monkey in the green fur pants and bone in his nose for 25 cents. Be proud brother!
- Art Deco a.k.a. "Big Bux Billie D"
man_in_black529@yahoo.com - 04 Mar 2006 11:41 GMT > >I wouldn't even doubt if you yourself had a TOTEM pole in your > >backyard, you idolitrous, unrepentant pagan. > > That would be an part of the culture of far northwestern Native > Americans... Jeff Day, a.k.a. Honest John, has a preoccupation with phallic poles.
Art Deco - 26 Feb 2006 05:58 GMT >>>>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >>>> [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >You are simpy just another whiner like the New Orleans niggers who are >seeking to make a life long career out of KATRINA. Oh look, a racist false Christian hypocrite. No surprise here, really.
>Don't reply to me any more you scum bag. What will you do if he does, gas bag?
>Jd, prophet of God A.D. 2006 Hnarf.
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"Didn't you bet a merit badge in Gopher Choking, bugger Boy?"
"We don't discuss religion anymore you f.cking idiot! Eat some more sh.t" -- Honest John, Christian evangelist
Bob Officer - 26 Feb 2006 07:13 GMT >>>>>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > >Hnarf. I guess he'll sh.t his pants...
A prophet of God preaching hate... Who would have expected that?
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Honest John - 26 Feb 2006 15:29 GMT > >>>>>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words > >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > > A prophet of God preaching hate... Who would have expected that? Nice feeding frenzy, I know you and Fart will be happy hand-in-hand in the future.
HJ
Art Deco - 26 Feb 2006 15:58 GMT >> >>>>>Anno Domini <ZionsFire@att.net> Spat the Words
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