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Space Forum / Astronomy / November 2005Two big bangs?
Okay, I'm sorry if this sounds somewhat illiterate, I've only taken one physics course (so far!) and most of this information I've just gotten from studying on my own out of the textbook. Now, the theory of the oscellating universe is that the universe basically collapses into itself and then we have another big bang and so on, correct? Is there a possibility that, because the mass of the universe is finite (I think), there are two singularities, or that there's a big bang involving only part of the universe? > Okay, I'm sorry if this sounds somewhat illiterate, I've only taken one > physics course (so far!) and most of this information I've just gotten [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > universe is finite (I think), there are two singularities, or that > there's a big bang involving only part of the universe? You mean an asymmetric expansion of space from the singularity? It's hard to imagine asymmetric happenings on that scale, as one would expect there to be some sort of conservation principles and physical laws keeping things orderly... Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the other negative.That are the opposite pairs nature creates. What bigger explosion than two black holes colliding with opposite charge,spin,and mass Had a "what if" very similar idea many moons ago Martin thinking and studying on your own can be fun. Bert > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the other > negative.That are the opposite pairs nature creates. What bigger > explosion than two black holes colliding with opposite charge,spin,and > mass Had a "what if" very similar idea many moons ago > Martin thinking and studying on your own can be fun. Bert Do you have a nikel for my munkee?  Signatureah > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the other > > negative.That are the opposite pairs nature creates. What bigger [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Do you have a nikel for my munkee? Double-Anus would go in for two big bangs. > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the other > > > negative.That are the opposite pairs nature creates. What bigger [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Double-Anus would go in for two big bangs. Bruce likes to go for both a goat and a sheep and call it a daily double! > > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the other > > > > negative.That are the opposite pairs nature creates. What bigger [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Bruce likes to go for both a goat and a sheep and call it a daily > double! Leave your parents out of this, Double-Anus. Or are you referring to your sisters this time? The Banger sisters? >> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the other >> > > > negative.That are the opposite pairs nature creates. What bigger [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Leave your parents out of this, Double-Anus. Or are you referring to > your sisters this time? The Banger sisters? FIGHT! Signatureah >>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the >>> > > > other [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >FIGHT! FIGHT! SignatureOfficial Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in alt.astronomy "The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with both male and female genitalia." "Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core." -- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004 On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:25:02 -0600, Art Dicko <art_dicko@127.0.0.1> wrote: >>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the >>>> > > > other [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>FIGHT! >FIGHT! SHITE! >On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:25:02 -0600, Art Dicko <art_dicko@127.0.0.1> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >SHITE! Shouldn't you be morphing again, nazicoward? SignatureOfficial Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in alt.astronomy "The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with both male and female genitalia." "Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core." -- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004 > >On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:25:02 -0600, Art Dicko <art_dicko@127.0.0.1> > >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Shouldn't you be morphing again, nazicoward? Revd Bruce only morphs to annoy the pretend kikes like Suzy "flabbyass" O'Cohen and Riain "Fartin" Barton. Her killfile must be huge by now - almost as big as her arse, from what I've heard. I wonder how long before it breaks. > -- > Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004 >> >On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:25:02 -0600, Art Dicko <art_dicko@127.0.0.1> >> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > almost as big as her arse, from what I've heard. I wonder how long > before it breaks. ROLF! Signatureah On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:23:43 -0600, Art Dicko <art_deco@127.0.0.1> wrote: >>On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:25:02 -0600, Art Dicko <art_dicko@127.0.0.1> >>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Shouldn't you be morphing again, nazicoward? Shouldn't you be blowing it out your fat a.s, Dicko? >On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:23:43 -0600, Art Dicko <art_deco@127.0.0.1> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >Shouldn't you be blowing it out your fat a.s, Dicko? Gosh, the nazicoward now claims to be able to detect the size of my hind side based on usenet posts. Do you do remote viewing, nazicoward? SignatureOfficial Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in alt.astronomy "The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with both male and female genitalia." "Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core." -- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004 On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:21:49 -0600, Art Dicko <art_deco@127.0.0.1> wrote: >>On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:23:43 -0600, Art Dicko <art_deco@127.0.0.1> >>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >Gosh, the nazicoward now claims to be able to detect the size of my >hind side based on usenet posts. Do you do remote viewing, nazicoward? Big fat a.s goes with big fat mouth, Dicko. >On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:21:49 -0600, Art Dicko <art_deco@127.0.0.1> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >Big fat a.s goes with big fat mouth, Dicko. Poor nazicoward, caught with shoe leather in mouth again. SignatureOfficial Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in alt.astronomy "The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with both male and female genitalia." "Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core." -- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004 On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:49:58 -0600, Art Dicko <art_dicko@127.0.0.1> wrote: >>On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:21:49 -0600, Art Dicko <art_deco@127.0.0.1> >>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > >Poor nazicoward, caught with shoe leather in mouth again. Poor Dicko, outmaneouvred yet again. >>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the >>>> > > > other [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>FIGHT! > FIGHT! FIGHT! Signatureah >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the >>>>> > > > other [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> FIGHT! >FIGHT! FIGHT! SignatureOfficial Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in alt.astronomy "The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with both male and female genitalia." "Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core." -- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004 > >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the > >>>>> > > > other [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >FIGHT! > FIGHT! FRIGHT! > -- > Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004 >> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the >> >>>>> > > > other [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> FIGHT! > FIGHT! FIGHT! Signatureah >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the >>> >>>>> > > > other [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> FIGHT! >FIGHT! FART! >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive >the [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> FIGHT! >FIGHT! FIGHT! SignatureOfficial Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in alt.astronomy "The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with both male and female genitalia." "Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core." -- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004 "I am a sean being from another planet." -- Darla aka Dr. Why aka Dr. Yubiwan aka Silouen aka ... > >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive > >the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >FIGHT! > FIGHT! FLIGHT! > -- > Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > "I am a sean being from another planet." > -- Darla aka Dr. Why aka Dr. Yubiwan aka Silouen aka ... >> >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive >> >the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> FIGHT! >FLIGHT! SHITE! >>> >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was >>> >>> >>>>> > > > positive [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >>FLIGHT! > SHITE! QUITE! >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > positive [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> SHITE! >QUITE! ALL RIGHT! > >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was > >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > positive [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >QUITE! > ALL RIGHT! LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT There's nothing I enjoy more than marching up and down the square, sergent major. >> >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was >> >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > positive [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > There's nothing I enjoy more than marching up and down the square, > sergent major. Shoulders back, Gunner Parkins Lovely boy >> >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was >> >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > positive [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >There's nothing I enjoy more than marching up and down the square, >sergent major. Shut up, you 'orrible little soldier, you! > >> >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was > >> >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > positive [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Shut up, you 'orrible little soldier, you! Eh, what's that? There's something else you'd rather be doing than marching up and down the square? >> >> >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was >> >> >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > positive [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >Eh, what's that? There's something else you'd rather be doing than >marching up and down the square? There isn't anything more pleasurable than square bashing, B'ruce! > >> >> >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was > >> >> >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > positive [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > There isn't anything more pleasurable than square bashing, B'ruce! How about Double-Anus and his double-barreled bangs? >> >> >> >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was >> >> >> >>>> >>> >>>>> > > > positive [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >How about Double-Anus and his double-barreled bangs? Youz mean he farts from both barrels simultaneously, B'ruce? Such an exhaust already! [snip] the end > >> > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the other > >> > > > negative.That are the opposite pairs nature creates. What bigger [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > FIGHT! KOOK! > > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the other > > > > negative.That are the opposite pairs nature creates. What bigger [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Bruce likes to go for both a goat and a sheep and call it a daily > double! oh. ah. And I always thought that the daily double referred to a Dog & Pony show. Rag Li wrote: > > > > > Martin Nature creates in pairs. One singularity was positive the other > > > > > negative.That are the opposite pairs nature creates. What bigger [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > And I always thought that the daily double referred to a Dog & Pony > show. Only in those Hollywood made film clips, RL. Two big bangs can be created when two black holes lose their tug of war. Hubble has shown us pictures of two neutron stars in this struggle. Fact is two guys got their Nobels studying and measuring two neutron stars in orbit around each other and getting closer and closer.Once a singularity is exposed to the rest of the universe Mach's inertia theory kicks in and a mini bang is created instantly. Our universe is such a mini-bang. That is my reasoning for my saying "There are as many universes as flakes of snow in an endless storm. Almost forgot to add "They are all exactly alike right down to the number of electrons. Bert > Two big bangs can be created when two black holes lose their tug of war. > Hubble has shown us pictures of two neutron stars in this struggle. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > kicks in and a mini bang is created instantly. Our universe is such a > mini-bang. Imagine two black holes in the primordial void. There would be no tug of war. There would be no inertia, no centrifugal force, no revolving around each other, because there would be no distant masses against which to measure those things as Mach's principle requires. There would be no clocks either, so time would be meaningless. > That is my reasoning for my saying "There are as many > universes as flakes of snow in an endless storm. Almost forgot to add > "They are all exactly alike right down to the number of electrons. Bert Sure, there are as many universes as there are Cornflakes at Kellogg's, and nature's true gods eat them for breakfast! Double-A Hi double-A Corn flakes are man made . Snow flakes can be found in every solar system in the universe. Space time exists between the two BHs There are clues that two black holes coming together is reality I'll give you no centrifugal force. The rest fits with my universe. Bert > Two big bangs can be created when two black holes lose their tug of war. > Hubble has shown us pictures of two neutron stars in this struggle. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > universes as flakes of snow in an endless storm. Almost forgot to add > "They are all exactly alike right down to the number of electrons. Bert "exactly alike"? Are you on drugz?! Signatureah >> Two big bangs can be created when two black holes lose their tug of war. >> Hubble has shown us pictures of two neutron stars in this struggle. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Are you on drugz?! What was your first clue, Bruce? SignatureOfficial Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in alt.astronomy "The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with both male and female genitalia." "Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core." -- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004 "I am a sean being from another planet." -- Darla aka Dr. Why aka Dr. Yubiwan aka Silouen aka ... > > Two big bangs can be created when two black holes lose their tug of war. > > Hubble has shown us pictures of two neutron stars in this struggle. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Are you on drugz?! He puffs the magic dragon. Thanks, it keeps me awake at night. I find that with physics, every time I answer one question, I find myself having 10 more (except with general relativity, in which case it's about 50). At least it means there's lots to do. >Okay, I'm sorry if this sounds somewhat illiterate, I've only taken one >physics course (so far!) and most of this information I've just gotten [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >universe is finite (I think), there are two singularities, or that >there's a big bang involving only part of the universe? The notion is, if a certain total mass is present, the expansion would eventually come to a stop and turn into a contraction, culminating in a Big Crunch, shortly thereafter followed by a new Big Bang. However, if the expansion is accelerating as recent data seems to require, the whole question (is there enough mass?) is invalid. The notion of an accelerating expansion is so bizarre, that I'm personally not convinced yet. The conclusion was reached very indirectly, and may be the result of faulty assumptions somewhere down the line. Signature- Mike Ignore the Python in me to send e-mail. >>Okay, I'm sorry if this sounds somewhat illiterate, I've only taken one >>physics course (so far!) and most of this information I've just gotten [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > indirectly, and may be the result of faulty assumptions somewhere down > the line. I wouild thing that receeding proximity would de-value gravity, and, thus, accellerate separation. It's a vicious circle, AFAIK. Signatureah >>>Okay, I'm sorry if this sounds somewhat illiterate, I've only taken one >>>physics course (so far!) and most of this information I've just gotten [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > I wouild thing that receeding proximity would de-value gravity, and, thus, "I would 'think'", if I could :/ > accellerate separation. > > It's a vicious circle, AFAIK. Signatureah |
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