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Space Forum / Astronomy / September 2005This is the Real Reason the Sun is going ccrazy.
During the last 10 or so years, the sun has been getting increasingly out of control. Ten years ago, the sun was a placid star, so tame that we could teach the 11 year regularity of the sunspot cycle to grade school kids - as if we were describing the regular stomach growlings of a puppy and not a raging thermonuclear reactor! Unfortunately for us here on earth, when the sun gets weird, we will feel its effects because of the many ecological and climatological systems that are in delicate balance and utterly reliant on a stable source of energy. Inside the last 10 years we have experienced the beginnings of radical climate disruption - the ice shelf's are melting, the hole in the ozone layer is getting larger, ocean and air currents are changing radically which is leading us into a violent storm cycle, as evidence look at the destruction Katrina has done. There are many other things occurring, and there is plenty of expectation that they will all get much, much worse before they get better. The disingenuous amongst us, looking for an easy scapegoat, place the blame on human action. This is silly. We are just not that powerful to be able to affect our planet significantly, and we haven't done anything to the sun! For once, humans need to place the 'blame' elsewhere. The truth is at once more scary, and revelatory of just how powerless we all really are (despite wishes or intentions). In 1993, there occurred an event on Earth that gives a clue to what is happening to our star. Evaluation of the seismic record for 1993 shows that the Earth was impacted by 2 dense bundles of quark matter - dubbed 'strangelets'. Although these objects were microscopic in size, quark matter can have a density of more than a million times that of ordinary matter. Lucky for us, these quark matter pebbles were moving upwards of a million miles per hour, and the earth wasn't dense or big enough to stop them. They sailed right on through. We were left only with a subterranean rumbling recorded on NORAD'S earthquake detectors to show they had hit us. However, the fact that we hit 2 of these things within months of each other indicates that the solar system must have passed through a swarm of these objects in 1993. Harmless to the planets because they are just too tiny to stop them, they would have caused no damage even if there were hundreds of strikes on each of the 9 planets and many many, moons of our solar system. But, what about the sun? Being thousands of times larger than even Jupiter, and having a high density of gasses and large gravitational field, even a strangelet moving a million miles an hour would not be going fast enough to escape. During that fateful year, our Sun must have absorbed many hundreds of these strangelets, most of which were trapped in the star and are now presently orbiting the center of mass *inside* the star and absorbing any matter they come into contact with. Most of the energy generated by the destruction of the sun's mass is released inside the star, heating it up and destabilizing it. Some of the energy is being absorbed by the strangelets and making them bigger, and more dangerous. The process can not be stopped, and its ultimate end will result in the premature explosion of our star. How long do we have? Years? Decades? Who knows. If it is any consolation, we will not be around to see that actual explosion - the earth will have long since been rendered dead and lifeless. Our National and world leaders are in full knowledge of this sequence of events. This is the main reason why we are committing national / global suicide by racking up a planetary national debt of trillions of dollars, which even a child knows can never be paid off. It is obvious from their profligate ways that our national leaders have adopted the philosophy, "Let the party never end!" According to most economic analysts, the party should be ending by the end of the decade. The Mayans told us the party is going to end in 2012. Well, at least now we know how a star as small as ours can go supernova, or at least something very close to it... Greysky www.allocations.cc Learn how to build a FTL radio. I think that it merely quit taking its lithium. > During the last 10 or so years, the sun has been getting increasingly out of > control. Ten years ago, the sun was a placid star, so tame that we could [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > www.allocations.cc > Learn how to build a FTL radio. 1. There may be other explanations for the observed 1993 earth quakes. You are assuming that Strangelets are the cause on insufficent evidence. 2. It is only a hypothesis that strangelets can exist outside of the quark stars which created them. There has been no independent verification that strangelets exist. 3. People have argued against the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider because they say that it could produce strangelets. If that were true, strangelets should be produced by cosmic rays. Since the planet is still here it seems unlikely that strangelets have a harmful effect. 4. Robert Jaffe, director of the Center for Theoretical Physics at MIT has argued that the most likely scenario is that a strangelet would have a small positive charge. Strangelets only become dangerous if the strangelet nuclei carries a negative charge. A negatively charged strangelet would then attract ordinary nuclei and consume them. 5. You have supplied no economic analysis to support your conclusions about the overall health of the world economy. Bottom-line: take a chill pill. --Mike Jr. >> During the last 10 or so years, the sun has been getting increasingly out >> of [quoted text clipped - 97 lines] > You are > assuming that Strangelets are the cause on insufficent evidence. What evidence do you need? The head of NASA telling you they are really using SOHO to monitor the increasing solar instability so they can provide the Administration with a more accurate estimate of when we will get cooked? Wont happen. Besides, for direct evidence, you would need to observe similar quakes for the same time priod happening on the other planets, and we can't do that. As for the sun, a massive strangelet falling into the star will simply not generate much evidence unless it were the mass of a small planet, in which case we wouldn't still be here. Sometimes, all the evidence you have is all you'll ever get... > 2. It is only a hypothesis that strangelets can exist outside of > the quark stars which created them. There has been no independent > verification that strangelets exist. I have no doubt our hypothesis are not totally correct. Things are usually worse than they at first appear. > 3. People have argued against the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider > because they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it seems > unlikely that strangelets have a harmful effect. You are comparing apples with oranges. Locally grown strangelets may be impossible to create at the low energy levels we can muster. This has absolutly nothing to do with strange matter created in a supernova, or when black holes collide. If the solar system encountered one of these swarms in 1993, it is just bad luck for us. See: http://focus.aps.org/story/v16/st Though it isn't stated directly in the article, it does indicate that strangelets are 500% - 1000% easier to create than had been previously assumed. I suspect the picture will worsen as we learn more... > 4. Robert Jaffe, director of the Center for Theoretical Physics at MIT > has [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > charged > strangelet would then attract ordinary nuclei and consume them. No one knows with certainty what effect a positive or neutral strangelet will have on normal matter. Especially a large amount of it regularly passing through the solar core. A large enough piece of positivly charged quark matter will be able to generate all manner of strange virtual particles which will interact in the solar environment again leading to much instability. > 5. You have supplied no economic analysis to support your conclusions > about the > overall health of the world economy. Call up Milton Friedman and ask him how much debt the American economy is accumulating. This is the easiest data to independently corroborate. Economies are not isolated. They are linked together in a web of debt the world over. Just look at what governments do and not listen to what they say. > Bottom-line: take a chill pill. I suspect there will be many people taking chill pills once they realize the truth of the bleak world situation we are facing and how completely powerless we are to stop it. Greysky www.allocations.cc Learn how to build a FTL radio. > >> During the last 10 or so years, the sun has been getting increasingly out > >> of [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > > What evidence do you need? More evidence than just your speculation. > The head of NASA telling you they are really > using SOHO to monitor the increasing solar instability so they can provide [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I have no doubt our hypothesis are not totally correct. Things are usually > worse than they at first appear. Yet the existance of stranelets outside of a quark star is key to your arguement. This is highly speculative. > > 3. People have argued against the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider > > because they [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > No one knows with certainty what effect a positive or neutral strangelet > will have on normal matter. Yet you seem to know. You say (not prove I point out) that the effects are all bad. Come on. NASA isn't the NRO. Anything really big would be on the cover of the New York Times. Do you think that the times would respond to a request from this whitehouse to sqaush a news story? > Especially a large amount of it regularly > passing through the solar core. A large enough piece of positivly charged > quark matter will be able to generate all manner of strange virtual > particles which will interact in the solar environment again leading to much > instability. Interact how, exactly? Based on what science? > > 5. You have supplied no economic analysis to support your conclusions > > about the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > world over. Just look at what governments do and not listen to what they > say. You still haven't supplied analysis to backup your statement that, "This is the main reason why we are committing national / global suicide by racking up a planetary national debt of trillions of dollars, which even a child knows can never be paid off." Debt is fine as long as there is growth. The economy is not a zero sum game. Wealth is created by hard work and ingenuity. Wealth is not a fixed size pie where your slice is at the expense of my slice. > > Bottom-line: take a chill pill. > > I suspect there will be many people taking chill pills once they realize the > truth of the bleak world situation we are facing and how completely > powerless we are to stop it. Well, good luck with that. > Greysky > > www.allocations.cc > Learn how to build a FTL radio. >> >> During the last 10 or so years, the sun has been getting increasingly >> >> out [quoted text clipped - 133 lines] > > More evidence than just your speculation. This is physical evidence you will never see now unless you work on the science teams bound to report to Washington. When you see the evidence it will be when the sun blows up, and then you can see it along with everyone else as it happens. >> The head of NASA telling you they are really >> using SOHO to monitor the increasing solar instability so they can [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > Yet you seem to know. You say (not prove I point out) that the effects > are all bad. Do you think having some strangelets around is a good thing? You prefer to believe hypotheses expounded by Robert Jaffe, who is also just speculating about the effects of strangelets because it is more comforting to your world view. Yet I don't think even Robert Jaffe would want to create a positive strangelet and release it into the earth just to see what will happen. > Come on. NASA isn't the NRO. Anything really big would be on the > cover of the New York Times. Do you think that the times would respond > to a request from this whitehouse to sqaush a news story? Consider that I just now broke the story. The Times will never print this story. The proof they (and you ) need is only going to come when we look to the sun and see it erupting -- oh wait, the sun just last week popped off one of the largest x-ray flares ever observed in recorded history. And this during a solar minimum... it seems each event in the last few years is being called "The largest ever seen..." until the next event manifests. Either it is 'The largest Flare," or "The largest CME," or somesuch. Something is stirring the Solar pot, and it aint Betty Crocker. >> Especially a large amount of it regularly >> passing through the solar core. A large enough piece of positivly charged [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > game. Wealth is created by hard work and ingenuity. Wealth is not a > fixed size pie where your slice is at the expense of my slice. When the creation of money without productive wealth being produced to back it up occures, it is called inflation. This is exactly what is happening so governments can use the banknotes they produce to purchase real goods, then the economy adjusts to the fresh injection of curency by manifesting higher prices for goods we buy with depreciated dollars. Then the cycle begins all over again. Eventually it ends with either a recession, or a depression. No debt is good. If real wealth increased along with the money supply, there would be no debt, and the economy would be stable - this is not what is happening. I can't believe you do not understand this. Are you sure you are from this planet?? Maybe it works differently where you come from... At any rate, most governments have come to the conclusion they will not have to pay off the debt because the world going to cook soon. >> > Bottom-line: take a chill pill. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Well, good luck with that. Yep. >> Greysky >> >> www.allocations.cc >> Learn how to build a FTL radio. Hi Greysky I wonder what Darla has to say about all this. Makes no difference to me if Darla is from outer space,or just another member of the human race she has a great mind. Her mind's eye can see the universe much better than the rest of us. If she told me not to worry about the chaotic furry of our Earth Sun,and solar system I might fall asleep faster. I would like that Bert > Hi Greysky I wonder what Darla has to say about all this. Makes no > difference to me if Darla is from outer space,or just another member of > the human race she has a great mind. Her mind's eye can see the universe > much better than the rest of us. If she told me not to worry about the > chaotic furry of our Earth Sun,and solar system I might fall asleep > faster. I would like that Bert Yep. Would be nice getting Darla's opinion. So how about it Darla? Have some uninvited solar 'guests' recently taken up residence in our favorite star? Greysky >> Hi Greysky I wonder what Darla has to say about all this. Makes no >> difference to me if Darla is from outer space,or just another member of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Greysky Cue Shirley Temple again...  SignatureOfficial Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler "The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with both male and female genitalia." "Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core." -- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004 Hi Uncle-A What do we owe the pleasure of your company in this group? Thought you were only big in QM,and relativity. Seems Al our continual watching the Sun's outer atmosphere showing us the coronal mass ejections on opposite sides of the Sun sending out those great amounts of charge particles into space is the best way of morniting its behavior.(yes?) After 4.5 years I would think the Sun should have evolved into a very stable star. What in your opinion could cause changes? How about flipping of its magnetic field creating more Sun spots? How about if I bring in uncertainty? Like the radioactive zone this being a good place where photons of heat bounce between the layer particles so many time that each photon can take about 200,000 years to reach the surface. Al There is always a probable chance that there could be a time the photons bounce less and come through rapidly,and thus more radiation going off into space. That is what uncertainty is all about. Well the Sun is looked upon as perminent,but so is change. Bert PS Uncle Al be nice. No, what's going crazy here is YOU, Beert! 4.5 years is such a short time in the 5 BILLION year life of the Sun! You made a "slight" error, Beert! The Sun IS a very stable star! You have no idea how stable it is! You should see some of the other stars! Oy vey! Yes, please bring in uncertainty as you seem VERY uncertain what you're blabbing about! What radioactive zone? The Sun has NONE! You mean the core where FUSION takes place! Or, are you throwing that out too? Radioactivity occurs from FISSION! You seem unable to differentiate the difference and are still the TURKEY I called you before about this topic! Calling hard gamma rays photons is a hoot (very innovative)! It takes UP TO 1 MILLION YEARS for those gamma rays to reach the Sun's "surface!" Did you make the shorter figure up yourself? Can you cite any evidence? Oh, I forgot, you NEVER cite ANY evidence for ANYTHING! My mistake! And remember: In your reply be sure to QUOTE WHAT I WROTE! Saul Levy >Hi Uncle-A What do we owe the pleasure of your company in this group? >Thought you were only big in QM,and relativity. Seems Al our continual [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Well the Sun is looked upon as perminent,but so is change. Bert PS >Uncle Al be nice. Wrong the Earth is 5 Billion years old.... the is sun much older than pluto... and I believe much Older than the Sirus star... too Ah true.. you guys dont understand Logic... > No, what's going crazy here is YOU, Beert! > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >Well the Sun is looked upon as perminent,but so is change. Bert PS > >Uncle Al be nice. > Wrong the Earth is 5 Billion years old.... the is sun much older than > pluto... and I believe much Older than the Sirus star... too Did it ever occur to you that just maybe the solar system was formed at the same time? > Ah true.. you guys dont understand Logic... > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > >Well the Sun is looked upon as perminent,but so is change. Bert PS > > >Uncle Al be nice. are all humans formed at the same time???? you guy's know nothing about the water container you are living in. Planets are born out of sun's... and planets become sun's, that how the heavens mechanic works... Warhol wrote: > Wrong the Earth is 5 Billion years old.... the is sun much older than > pluto... and I believe much Older than the Sirus star... too Did it ever occur to you that just maybe the solar system was formed at the same time? > Ah true.. you guys dont understand Logic... > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > >Well the Sun is looked upon as perminent,but so is change. Bert PS > > >Uncle Al be nice. I think you left out a few steps... Saul Levy >are all humans formed at the same time???? you guy's know nothing about the >water container you are living in. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Did it ever occur to you that just maybe the solar system was formed at >the same time? What if Humankind did not evolve from the Earth? What if they had to leave their star for the same reason Darla,and her people had to leave their "inflating" star What if there were 3 planets with intelligent life that made up humankind going around their doomed star. Like Darla they would have to build a huge space ship. They would have to board the three different races of humankind. When final leaving their doomed star they found Earth,and landed and let each race off on different parts of the Earth. Negro(black) left off in Africa. Chinese(yellow) left off in Asia Caucasian(white) Europe Time would have them lose their great technology,but not their "id" Left out a lot,but leave you the name of their great space ship They called it the "ARK" Reality is Earth was invaded by aliens,and we are them. Bert > What if Humankind did not evolve from the Earth? What if they had to > leave their star for the same reason Darla,and her people had to leave [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the name of their great space ship They called it the "ARK" > Reality is Earth was invaded by aliens,and we are them. Bert the first humans on this earth were outlaws from Mars... and Adam and Eve brought the first organized society in a Mad Max world .... long long long times ago... when the red planet was green world, full of life... Message from a leaking bottle called Cosmos... > What if Humankind did not evolve from the Earth? What if they had to > leave their star for the same reason Darla,and her people had to leave [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the name of their great space ship They called it the "ARK" > Reality is Earth was invaded by aliens,and we are them. Bert OK, but then how did we fit so well into the food chain here? We couldn't have brought all the plants and animals with us because the fossil record shows that they have been here in one form or another for billions of years! So if we are aliens to this planet, than how is it we can so easily digest the plants and animals here as food? Don't you suppose that the chemistry of alien life might be so different as to be completely incompatible? Double-A Hi Double-A Don't take this so literally. I gave you the first chapter to "Stepping Stones" a sci-fiction novel I wrote many moons ago. It never got published. Go figure Beert > Hi Double-A Don't take this so literally. I gave you the first chapter > to "Stepping Stones" a sci-fiction novel I wrote many moons ago. It > never got published. Go figure Beert Well I suppose the solution could be that all life is compatible because it all evolved from a common ancestor, such as nightbat's Red Halo bacteria. You might include that as a footnote to improve the credibility of your plot. Double-A > > Hi Double-A Don't take this so literally. I gave you the first chapter > > to "Stepping Stones" a sci-fiction novel I wrote many moons ago. It [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Double-A Yes exactly, life here, there or wherever would have formed from exactly the same ingredients, therefor one has to wonder if life on another planet such as some form of alien fish would be edible for us. I don't see why not, of course such as here some would be poisonous no doubt but just as here many plants etc would or should be edible. > > > Hi Double-A Don't take this so literally. I gave you the first > chapter [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > see why not, of course such as here some would be poisonous no doubt but > just as here many plants etc would or should be edible. There are some considerations. First off, is all life based on carbon? Could life be based on silicon for instance? Then eating it might be about as nourishing for us as eating sand! Also, all life on Earth is based on left-handed amino acids, and we consume right-handed sugars for nourishment. Left-handed sugars can be used for diet sweetener because they taste sweet but don't supply the body with useable calories. If alien sugar cane produced only left-handed sugar, we couldn't get much energy from eating it. Double-A > > > > Hi Double-A Don't take this so literally. I gave you the first > > chapter [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Double-A But that may well be the norm, I see no reason to suppose that life on this planet should be anything special or that different from life elsewhere. Sure, shake the ingredients up a little more add this and take out that and no doubt one would get some peculiar and curious results but again I see no reason to expect that life elsewhere would be so fundamentally different from what it is here. We see some pretty odd and strange life on this planet, if some were found on another planet it would only be odd or strange because we found it on another planet, had we found it here in the depth of the ocean or something it would just be labelled an new or another species or an off shoot of an existing species. Hi Double-A Evolution has made our bodies what we see in the mirror today. Like gravity has evolved the cosmos. we are three dimensional because the cosmos has three dimensions. Double-A I always thought that we should start a new branch of science just studying ourselves,and call it "Human Condition" Have a gut feeling we don't think 100% alike on any subject.(Especially sex) Are we really social animals? Steven Gould(one of my ideals) believed genetic factors influence human behavior. Well we now know evolving in our DNA has made our brains bigger over time. Well to sum it up with an interesting question. " How rational do you think humankind is?" > Hi Double-A Evolution has made our bodies what we see in the mirror > today. Like gravity has evolved the cosmos. we are three dimensional [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > bigger over time. Well to sum it up with an interesting question. " > How rational do you think humankind is?" Hi Bert and Ray, There is an interesting theory that the reason all life on Earth is based on left-handed amino acids is because space dust and comets were exposed to a polarized left-handed light, even before the Sun formed, which selectively destroyed right-handed amino acids. Such left handed light has been observed a star cluster in the great Orion Nebula, which I was coincidentally just observing and pondering this morning, and which may be similar to the one in which our solar system evolved. Anyway, the space dust accreted into comets, preserving the predominantly left-handed amino acids, and later the comets crashed into the Earth, providing water, and seeding the Earth with left-handed amino acids as the precursors of life. http://flatrock.org.nz/topics/science/creation_could_be_left_handed.htm If this theory holds true, then any other life found in this solar system should be similar at least to the extent that it is based on left-handed amino acids. Double-A Hi Ray The Earth has many millions of different forms of life. Mammals are the smartest. My Moby does not like a whale being smarter than him. I'm not sure they are. The city rat is very clever. How many here remember my pet cockroach "Big Moe" His species will inherit the Earth.They will survive the H-Bomb holocaust. My studying Big Moe proved they act,and can think on their own. Have built in sonar. Know how to hid.Know when to stay put,and know when to run like hell. Black because they hunt at night. Have great sense of smell,and taste. Keep good track of time. Take good care of their young,and do not kill or eat their own kind. Big Moe died December 27/00 My wife bought Moby to take Big Moe's place. I know all must think I'm crazy to make a cockroach a pet,and maybe reality is their right. What do you think? Main features of intelligent life in the cosmos would be these. Brain highest point of the body Four eyes six legs with good traction.black or green best body color. Build of body depending on planets gravity force(weight) If planet has a water surface(no land) it should have the shape of a fish with hands,and be able to spend most of its time floating on its back and viewing the sky. To enlarge the brain the animal must look up. Human body is good,but not the best. Human brain is good but not the best. Far from the worst. Far from the best. Reality is we know this. bert. > Hi Ray The Earth has many millions of different forms of life. Mammals > are the smartest. However, animals are smart in ways that we are not. > My Moby does not like a whale being smarter than him. > I'm not sure they are. The city rat is very clever. How many here [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > good track of time. Take good care of their young,and do not kill or eat > their own kind. Big Moe died December 27/00 Did you give him a proper funeral and Christian burial? > My wife bought Moby to > take Big Moe's place. I know all must think I'm crazy to make a > cockroach a pet,and maybe reality is their right. What do you think? You're just lucky he/she didn't multiply, or you'd have cockroaches coming out of the woodwork everywhere! > Main features of intelligent life in the cosmos would be these. Brain > highest point of the body Four eyes six legs with good [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > best. Human brain is good but not the best. Far from the worst. Far from > the best. Reality is we know this. bert. So, what does have the "best" brain, Bert? Double-A Hi double-A I took Big Moe's body out to lake Toho. Made a very nice paper boat set it afloat,and on fire.A viking funeral. Its the best way. Bert > Hi double-A I took Big Moe's body out to lake Toho. Made a very nice > paper boat set it afloat,and on fire.A viking funeral. Its the best > way. Bert Yes, as one who has the blood of Viking Berserkers coursing through his veins, I can assure you that you did the right thing! Doubld-A Oops Double-A You asked what has the best brain? I don't know what has,but do know Darla when she lands on Earth,and sits alone thinking in her space craft her thoughts are the greatest thinking and can't be match by the combined brains of humankind. I relate this to what President Kennedy had to say about Jefferson's intelligence. Bert > Hi Ray The Earth has many millions of different forms of life. Mammals > are the smartest. My Moby does not like a whale being smarter than him. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > best. Human brain is good but not the best. Far from the worst. Far from > the best. Reality is we know this. bert. Bert, Some cat keeps screaming outside my window! What do you think he knows that I don't? Is it possible that with his "better" brain that he is onto something? Maybe he is trying to warn me that the "big one" is coming! Double-A Hi Double-A Look to the sky. Its the birds that will let you know when nature is ready to unleash a powerful disaster on your head. Danger is in all birds "id". A large comet carved this into their DNA survival system 65 million years ago. Beert nightbat wrote > Hi Double-A Look to the sky. Its the birds that will let you know when > nature is ready to unleash a powerful disaster on your head. Danger is > in all birds "id". A large comet carved this into their DNA survival > system 65 million years ago. Beert nightbat So Officer Bert that's the profound system you've been using to Florida deduce when the next hurricane catastrophe is going to happen, expert duty watching the birds flying around your Officer's head for observably when they go kooko. I see of course, so simple, yet broadly applicable, and that's why the sound of music hills Germans made exacting attribute intricate wood carved time pieces to them because they spring loaded precision worked and called them all world famous proverbial Kooko Clocks. Hmmmmmm, however, I had no idea that the birds were such comet fans too, wow! this is ground breaking news, Captain's log make note to be sure to bring a few Earth planetary animal birds onto Darla Starship to warn crew when sh.ts about to hit the fan. And now I see why the troll coffee boys all act up whenever Officer Bohne expert duty science posts too. They can't handle or understand the deep ramifications of the higher IQ Officer data transferal and act very much as those birds, of course. Thank you for your in depth research report Officer Bert, excellent. Wait a minute, that doesn't co peer explain the real reason why the Sun is going crazy, oh I get it, sure must be the high super frequency Earth sound of all those kooko birds acting up because of the multi single impact area record breaking temps heated seas occurring hurricanes driving it solar flare madly, and vice versa, elementary. carry on, the nightbat >nightbat wrote > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >now I see why the troll coffee boys all act up whenever Officer Bohne >expert duty science posts too. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah >They can't handle or understand the deep >ramifications of the higher IQ Officer data transferal and act very much >as those birds, of course. Hahahahahahahhah ahahahahahahahahahahaha >Thank you for your in depth research report >Officer Bert, excellent. AHaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah >Wait a minute, that doesn't co peer explain the real reason why the Sun >is going crazy, oh I get it, sure must be the high super frequency Earth >sound of all those kooko birds acting up because of the multi single >impact area record breaking temps heated seas occurring hurricanes >driving it solar flare madly, and vice versa, elementary. Are you going to post your credentials in stellar physics anytime soon? > carry on, > the nightbat [insert next coffee boy lame here] SignatureOfficial Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler "The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with both male and female genitalia." "Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core." -- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004 Hi nightbat Reality is birds in Florida are dying off. The fresh water lakes are to warm and that has created pollution. Coastal waters have "Red Tide",and that's even a bigger killer. Water and atmosphere,are so closely linked,and man has made an insulation blanket of CO2 to make sure both are becoming to warm. The Earth needed the cold vacuum of space to radiate out its excess of heat. We are now living inside a thermos bottle. We must do something now that we should have done 50 yeas ago,and that is create a condition so that the Earth can breath again. Bert nightbat wrote > Hi nightbat Reality is birds in Florida are dying off. The fresh water > lakes are to warm and that has created pollution. Coastal waters have [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > yeas ago,and that is create a condition so that the Earth can breath > again. Bert nightbat Well Dr. Tesla wrote about the need to avoid great heat polluting engines as much as possible but tell that to the oil boys. There is no established scientific proof that the atmosphere and seas are heating up but don't tell that to the Gulf Coast. As we enter a possible warmer solar flare cycle look out for could more intensive weather and hurricanes not be far behind. It's sad if you notice the Florida birds dying off, an ominous sign. And how will you predication tell when the next big tropical storm rolls around, CNN? They are news starting up again trying to American push cutting back fuel conservation or dirty waste nuclear power, will that help your birds? Or the profound Dr. Tesla explained final factor and nightbat resolution which is non nuclear waste producing based energy clean renewable electric power? ponder on, the nightbat >nightbat wrote > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > ponder on, > the nightbat How do you turn the shafts of your "Tesla motors"? SignatureOfficial Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler "The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with both male and female genitalia." "Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core." -- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004 Hi nightbat I had lots of humming birds for over ten years,and I love to watch how they eat on the fly. Five years ago they seemed to disappear completely. In the fall thousands of black birds use to land in my back yard year after year,and now not one. Same with eagles,mocking birds,and hawks. Where have the Florida birds gone? On like Toho there was always pelicans flying and diving into the water. I know why there gone. Not one fish in the lake. The gators are harder to spot. No more Air-boats to take tourists out and show gators sunning themselves. nightbat is it the same in Indiana? Best to keep in mind without the birds the grass hoppers,termites,and caterpillars will take over,and that can create big problems Beert > Hi nightbat I had lots of humming birds for over ten years,and I love > to watch how they eat on the fly. Five years ago they seemed to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > mind without the birds the grass hoppers,termites,and caterpillars will > take over,and that can create big problems Beert Still have a lot of birds around here, Bert. No freshly washed car is safe! Double-A > Hi Ray The Earth has many millions of different forms of life. Mammals > are the smartest. My Moby does not like a whale being smarter than him. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > best. Human brain is good but not the best. Far from the worst. Far from > the best. Reality is we know this. bert. Well I don't think I have ever seen a cockroach for real, can't say I would want one either but then I'm not a pet sort of person. One thing has become clear and that is that life is not so easily killed off. The human brain pretty much speaks for itself, just look around this planet and see what hideous things the human brain is capable of thinking up. Bad move, we should have stayed in the seas. Hi Ray Animals that swim,or stay only in the ocean save a lot of energy. More than likely rock planets have about 5 mile deep water covering the whole planet is reality. Beert What are you talking about, Warthole? I don't think you know! Yes, Sirius is a young star. What's that have to do with anything? Saul Levy >Wrong the Earth is 5 Billion years old.... the is sun much older than >pluto... and I believe much Older than the Sirus star... too [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> >Well the Sun is looked upon as perminent,but so is change. Bert PS >> >Uncle Al be nice. well I have some breaking news for the scientific world... the sirius star is born out of our sun... and once upon the time humans lived on the now burning star ... longbefore the planet started to burn and longtimes later siruis became a lightsource for a dark corner of our Galaxy... with it's own baby worlds > What are you talking about, Warthole? I don't think you know! > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >> >Well the Sun is looked upon as perminent,but so is change. Bert PS > >> >Uncle Al be nice. Wrong, wrong, wrong! You are truly full of sh.t, Warthole! Saul Levy >well I have some breaking news for the scientific world... the sirius star >is born out of our sun... and once upon the time humans lived on the now [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> Saul Levy [snip] > In 1993, there occurred an event on Earth that gives a clue to what is > happening to our star. Evaluation of the seismic record for 1993 shows that > the Earth was impacted by 2 dense bundles of quark matter - dubbed > 'strangelets'. [snip crap] > Learn how to build a FTL radio. [snip rest of crap] SignatureUncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf |
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