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Space Forum / Astronomy / May 2005FBI Recruits for al Qaeda
It seems that the only way that our government (US) can come up with something to show for the billions being spent on the War on Terror is to first recruit terrorists, and then to bust them! http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=8638294 It seems that out of their frustration at not being able to find any real terrorist conspirators to arrest, they have resorted to manufacturing terrorist so that at least they will have something for the headlines! Unfortunately I have heard more of these kinds of sting type busts than of the capture of anybody who was part of the real al Qaeda. Not that all of these people stung are "nice guys". But then neither are some of my neighbors. I think that these kinds of entrapments are really a waste of money that should be going toward finding "real" al Qaeda terrorists! If I, using my wonderfully persuasive powers, could convince some of you guys here to sign up for al Qaeda, and then have you busted for conspiracy, how on Earth would that help the War on Terror? Double-A >It seems that the only way that our government (US) can come up with >something to show for the billions being spent on the War on Terror is [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >really a waste of money that should be going toward finding "real" al >Qaeda terrorists! Looks they really run out of stock :-) Can we please end the "war of ^on terror" now? Back to real business? >If I, using my wonderfully persuasive powers, could convince some of >you guys here to sign up for al Qaeda, and then have you busted for >conspiracy, how on Earth would that help the War on Terror? > >Double-A > Looks they really run out of stock :-) > Can we please end the "war of ^on terror" now? > Back to real business? What can I say? I we were really still at war here on the home front, the government would at least post some guards on our notoriously porous borders, rather than pursuing such diversions as subjecting everyone from porno queens to 90 year old nuns to X-ray virtual strip searches at airports! Cig lighters not allowed onboard planes, but 3 books of matches (like the shoe bomber used) are still OK. Double-A >subjecting everyone from porno >queens to 90 year old nuns to X-ray virtual strip searches at airports! How can they tell them apart? :-> C. > > Looks they really run out of stock :-) > > Can we please end the "war of ^on terror" now? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Cig lighters not allowed onboard planes, but 3 books of matches (like > the shoe bomber used) are still OK. Well I tried to point this out the other day, the whole thing is FUDD. Over here(UK), I think several hundred people were arrested since 9/11 on so called terrorism threat, to my knowledge no one, thats not one person has been brought before the courts. We had sevral people in prison for no other reason that they were 'suspected' links to terrorism and terrorists, not one of those had been charged with any offence yet they were in prison, the lords finally ruled that this was illegal and the government had to let them go, many I think are under some sort of restriction of their movements but again still no formal charges have been brought. > Double-A > > > Looks they really run out of stock :-) > > > Can we please end the "war of ^on terror" now? [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > Double-A There was a Muslim cleric here in my local city who was arrested a while back at the airport when they detected some residue from 4th of July fireworks on his luggage. Of course they assumed he had been making bombs. No other evidence ever turned up. The guy had no terrorist connections that anybody could find. But they held him in prison anyway until his local supporters raised so much hell about it that they finally let him out. If he hadn't had anyone to make noise for him on the outside, he might still be sitting behind bars. Double-A > > > > Looks they really run out of stock :-) > > > > Can we please end the "war of ^on terror" now? [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > they finally let him out. If he hadn't had anyone to make noise for > him on the outside, he might still be sitting behind bars. I was listening to the radio a while ago and heard an amusing story told by an ex police officer(UK). He and his wife arrived in the US aboard a plane(from the UK, holiday I assume), any way his wife had some fruit, apples, and apparently you need to declare those at the airport, the airport clerk asks, where did you get these apples ma'am?, in a supermarket she replies, where did you get these apples ma'am?, Sainsburys she replies, what is Sainsburys ma'am?, a supermarket she replies. Eventually after a lengthy explanation the apples stayed at the airport but they were allowed to finally enter the US. It seemed that the clerk couldn't understand how this UK couple, arriving at the US on a flight from the UK had in their possession apples that were clearly labelled 'Produce of California'. So can you stop exporting apples to the UK please as it causes your immigration/airport people some concern ;-) > Double-A > > > > > Looks they really run out of stock :-) > > > > > Can we please end the "war of ^on terror" now? [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > > Double-A If you stop buying California fruit, it's fine with me. Here in Oregon, we don't think too highly of Californians (regional prejudice). They keep moving up here, making things overcrowded, and bringing their lifestyles and social values with them. California is the only state I know of that has checkpoints at their borders where they inspect you and confiscate any fruit that they find. I don't know how they get away with it, because the federal government is supposed to be in charge of regulating interstate commerce. Oregon has excellent apples, and Washington State too. No need to import them from California. One thing that irks me though is that the supermarkets, dominated by nationwide chains, seem to have frozen out the local strawberries, and insist on only selling California berries that seem to have been treated by some kind of chemical that makes them hard and never ripen (no flavor). The only way to get strawberries that taste good is to buy them from a farmer's roadside stand. Mmmm! They're in season now too! Double-A > > > > > > Looks they really run out of stock :-) > > > > > > Can we please end the "war of ^on terror" now? [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > They keep moving up here, making things overcrowded, and bringing > their lifestyles and social values with them. Yeah we have similar here with people up north coming down south, why they can't just accept there lot up there and have to come down here and burden us and our housing market and drinking our water. > California is the only state I know of that has checkpoints at their > borders where they inspect you and confiscate any fruit that they > find. What even their own produced fruit. > I don't know how they get away with it, because the federal > government > is supposed to be in charge of regulating interstate commerce. Similar here with people popping over to France buying lots of cheap booze and cigarettes, even though I thought we were supposed to have free trade with EU countries. Probably all to do with money and taxes, confiscate your fruit at the border so you are forced to buy there own produce once they let you in. > Oregon has excellent apples, and Washington State too. No need to > import them from California. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > buy them from a farmer's roadside stand. Mmmm! They're in season now > too! But are they fresh, a lot of this stuff today is touted as fresh but has likely been freeze stored for months and mucked around with. I see we are playing you at football later today, give us a thrashing please ;-) > Double-A >Similar here with people popping over to France buying lots of cheap >booze and cigarettes, even though I thought we were supposed to have >free trade with EU countries. Probably all to do with money and taxes, >confiscate your fruit at the border so you are forced to buy there own >produce once they let you in. Same thing with pornography in the US ... they ask you if you brought such stuff! (first time when I was under 18 I felt deeply ashamed by that question :-) ... they say it's a reason to exclude you from entering the States for life! ... But on the first counter in La Guardia you can buy all the porn you (n-)ever wanted. C. >Oregon has excellent apples, and Washington State too. No need to >import them from California. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Double-A Send a taste/sample of your apples and strawberries, please ... no problems with our customs :-> C. >If he hadn't had anyone to make noise for him on the outside, he >might still be sitting behind bars. > >Double-A That's the real threat: executive power running wild. C. > > > Looks they really run out of stock :-) > > > Can we please end the "war of ^on terror" now? [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > Double-A No cigarette lighters, you say? Soon people will have to wear disposable gowns and shoes when they step aboard an airplane. What does FUDD mean ? i can guess @ the FU bit ... correct me if i am wrong there too. I still remember a cartoon from Playboy, decades ago. Two guys are walking past each other in an airport, one recognizing the other. He calls out to his friend " Hi Jack ! " Hi Jack ! " Hey Dick ~ ! > > > > Looks they really run out of stock :-) > > > > Can we please end the "war of ^on terror" now? [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > What does FUDD mean ? i can guess @ the FU bit ... correct me if i am > wrong there too. Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt and Disinformation. http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/FUDD > I still remember a cartoon from Playboy, decades ago. Two guys are > walking past each other in an airport, one recognizing the other. He > calls out to his friend " Hi Jack ! " As we are nearly all walking about with something made in China on us it does make you wonder, clothes, mp3 player, yes even lighters ;-) >yes even lighters ;-) Most states still hold a monoply over matches :-) "Zündwarenmonopol". C. >Well I tried to point this out the other day, the whole thing is FUDD. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >restriction of their movements but again still no formal charges have >been brought. Isn't it strange that those people (like Bush and the CFR) who want to make us believe don't try harder? One would expect another mad shoe- bomber now and then ... but all we are left with now are SUSPECTS :-> Cheers! C. > >Well I tried to point this out the other day, the whole thing is > >FUDD. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > bomber now and then ... but all we are left with now are SUSPECTS :-> > Cheers! I wouldn't even go as far to calling them suspects, damned unfortunates more like it, what truly blows my mind away is that the state/police/government say well we can't go to court with these people because the evidence we do have is so secret we can't tell anyone what it is, like yeah bollocks. I think it was the chief of the MET police or some copper very high up on a news prog shortly after christmas trying to tell me and everyone else that they had successfully thwarted five or six terrorists strikes on UK mainland, again oh yeah I thought wheres the evidence for this?, the days when a police officers word meant something have long gone I'm afraid. All coming to you of course by the same peeps that brought to us the non existent WMD's and 45 minute warning in Iraq. > C. >All coming to you of course by the same peeps that brought to us the non >existent WMD's and 45 minute warning in Iraq. Absolutly right, Ray. Too bad... But look at this: http://www.filecabi.net/v.php?file=ufoondemand.wmv Are they coming? > >All coming to you of course by the same peeps that brought to us the > >non existent WMD's and 45 minute warning in Iraq. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Are they coming? I can't get that link to work, is it supposed to display on screen or do you download it?, I tried both and all three screen sizes yet nothing. >> http://www.filecabi.net/v.php?file=ufoondemand.wmv >> >> Are they coming? > >I can't get that link to work, is it supposed to display on screen or do >you download it?, I tried both and all three screen sizes yet nothing. Well - sorry ... it's a Windows media File from the www.filecabi.net ... it's much too large to post it to ABUF ... and you would most probably not be able to play it on your Linux-machine ... C. It's about 4.3 MB -- and it's from ABC Channel 13 ... if you'd like I can send it to you by e-mail .. > >> http://www.filecabi.net/v.php?file=ufoondemand.wmv > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > and you would most probably not be able > to play it on your Linux-machine ... Of course I can, I can play any media files, except Microsoft DRM encrypted WMA music files which means to pay for music online and down load music legally I MUST install Windows, yeah like hell Mr. Gates. You know it's shoddy dubious practices like that that lead to people downloading music illegally. > C. > > It's about 4.3 MB -- and it's from ABC Channel 13 > ... if you'd like I can send it to you by e-mail .. I couldn't understand it, a window appears on the site giving three screen sizes and a blank box, I thought it was going to load on the page in the box as the box changes size according to selection. I tried downloading from the link to the file under this blank box but again nothing, I'll try again, I'll be back. > I tried >downloading from the link to the file under this blank box but again >nothing, I'll try again, > >I'll be back. If it doesn't work for you ... send me an e-mail to me@pasoschweiz.de and I will attach the file to my answer. C. > > I tried > >downloading from the link to the file under this blank box but again [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to me@pasoschweiz.de and I will attach the > file to my answer. Theres something odd, I cant access *any* file on that site, I tried five different web browsers, I see the little video buttons but the video just don;t play and the links that I assume allow you download the files don;t work either. Are you sure they are not DRM'd(Digital Rights Management) Microsft files cos if so I won't be able to play them. > C. >> If it doesn't work for you ... send me an e-mail >> to me@pasoschweiz.de and I will attach the >> file to my answer. > >Theres something odd, I cant access *any* file on that site, .. Waiting for your e-mail .. C. > >Well I tried to point this out the other day, the whole thing is FUDD. > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Cheers! > C. I just heard FOX News this morning playing right into the party line that these latest arrests of al Qaeda supporters (the ones the government themselves recruited) are somehow important! The one guy is a doctor who said he would treat al Qaeda wounded if they couldn't go elsewhere for treatment. He faces 15 years for that! As long as the news media play ball, the insignificant can be made to seem important. Double-A >I just heard FOX News this morning playing right into the party line >that these latest arrests of al Qaeda supporters (the ones the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Double-A Fox .. and other media: WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush called a human rights report "absurd" for criticizing the United States' detention of terrorist suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and said Tuesday the allegations were made by "people who hate America." ********************************** http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/31/bush.newsconference.ap/index.html?section =cnn_mostpopular C. |
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