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Space Forum / Astronomy / August 2004Fred Hoyle
..................................... British 'Steady-State' Astronomer Fred Hoyle Dies By SPACE.com staff and wire reports posted: 08:26 am ET 22 August 2001 Fred Hoyle, the English astronomer credited with coining the phrase ``Big Bang'' to describe academic theory on the creation of the cosmos, died Wednesday. He was 86. Hoyle, a Cambridge University academic and science fiction writer, objected to many conventional cosmological theories and became known for his efforts to popularize science. He challenged the belief that a huge explosion 12,000 million years ago caused the cosmos, ironically giving the theory a name which would last, the ``Big Bang.'' He coined the phrase while describing the theory on a radio show. Instead of the ``Big Bang,'' Hoyle advocated the ``steady state'' theory that the cosmos had no beginning but that new galaxies were formed as others moved apart, and in collaboration with Chandra Wickramasinghe he has pioneered the modern theory of panspermia. Although scientific evidence mounted against his stance, Hoyle was acclaimed for much of his work on stars, galaxies, gravity and atoms. He has held the position of Plumian Professor of Astronomy at Cambridge University, and was also the founder of the Institute of Astronomy at Cambridge. He was an Honorary Fellow of both Emmanuel College and St.John's College Cambridge and an Honorary Professor at Cardiff University of Wales. Born in Yorkshire in northern England to wool merchant parents in 1915, Hoyle could navigate by the stars by the time he was 10 and often stayed up all night gazing at the stars through his telescope. In 1968 Hoyle was awarded the UN Kalinga Prize, he also received the Royal Medal of the Royal Society and the Gold Medal of the Royal Astronomical Society. In 1997 he was awarded the Crafoord Prize by the the Swedish Academy in recognition of outstanding basic research in fields not covered by the Nobel prize. He was a Fellow of the Royal Society and a Foreign Associate of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences. He has published over 40 books, including technical science, popular science and science fiction. "Hoyle can be credited with having led a revolution in British astrophysics which at least banished an uncritical acceptance of cosmological orthodoxy,'' the Times said in its obituary. ..................................... A bit belated, don't you think Ralph??? > ..................................... > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > ..................................... He went out with a "big bang" which is still reverberating throughout the cosmos to this day. > A bit belated, don't you think Ralph??? > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > > > ..................................... >> A bit belated, don't you think Ralph??? >He went out with a "big bang" which is still reverberating throughout >the cosmos to this day. Actually, he went out championing ideas about Archaeopteryx and diseases from space which threatened the reputation of one of the greatest astrophysicists of the 20th century. Which doesn't explain why Ralph is not quite four years late posting someone else's story..  SignatureWhat have they got to hide? Release the ESA Beagle 2 report. Remove spam and invalid from address to reply. [CLIP] > Actually, he went out championing ideas about Archaeopteryx and diseases > from space which threatened the reputation of one of the greatest > astrophysicists of the 20th century. That is your lie. That is your attempt to make the newsgroup into your personal psychological reality. You seem to be projecting your wishes to make it seem to you that your wishes are real. They aren't. > Which doesn't explain why Ralph is not quite four years late posting > someone else's story.. What you fail to understand is that there is no explanation. You lied again by saying that I plagiarized "someone else's story". You failed to note I did, in fact, provide the proper credit, and a followed that with a second post that provided the credit for the URL. Ralph Hertle [clip] >> Which doesn't explain why Ralph is not quite four years late posting >> someone else's story.. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Ralph Hertle Here's that missing URL: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/hoyle_obit_010822.html > > Actually, he went out championing ideas about Archaeopteryx and diseases > > from space which threatened the reputation of one of the greatest [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > personal psychological reality. You seem to be projecting your wishes to > make it seem to you that your wishes are real. They aren't. Ralph, what on Earth are you talking about? Of course FH was a great proponent of the diseases from space theory - why deny it? Fred wouldn't have. > > Which doesn't explain why Ralph is not quite four years late posting > > someone else's story.. > > What you fail to understand is that there is no explanation. > > You lied again by saying that I plagiarized "someone else's story". Ralph, nobody mentioned plagiarizing until you. The question is why you waited until the story was 3 years old. [CLIP] > Ralph, what on Earth are you talking about? Of course FH was a great > proponent of the diseases from space theory - why deny it? Fred wouldn't > have. Fred was probably interested in the hypothesis, and it does have some plausible merit. Using the scientific it remains to either find such molecules in space, or not. OG, it is illogical to twist meanings this way and that for your own personal convenience. You said, "Archaeopteryx .... threatened the reputation of one of the greatest astrophysicists of the 20th century." Is that the pre-historic bird ? re: http://daily-tangents.com/Aves/Archaeop/ To which "one of the greatest astrophysicists" do you refer? Newton? >>>Which doesn't explain why Ralph is not quite four years late posting >>>someone else's story.. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Ralph, nobody mentioned plagiarizing until you. The question is why you > waited until the story was 3 years old. You said the ideas: that I was "....posting someone else's story." I merely put one of the appropriate possible name, "plagiarizing," to your claim of, "posting someone else's story." There was no plagiarizing of any one "else's story." The news item was properly and fully quoted, and proper credits were given. That is not plagiarizing. Plagiarizing is the taking, copying or publishing of another's work as one's own work. Ralph Hertle >[CLIP] > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >personal psychological reality. You seem to be projecting your wishes >to make it seem to you that your wishes are real. They aren't. Wow. That's a hell of a chip on your shoulder. Are you saying that Sir Fred didn't make those claims? Or that they didn't affect his reputation? But I am somewhat surprised that space.com didn't mention them. >> Which doesn't explain why Ralph is not quite four years late posting >>someone else's story.. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >failed to note I did, in fact, provide the proper credit, and a >followed that with a second post that provided the credit for the URL. I don't like being called a liar. I didn't say you plagiarised SPACE.com's story. I said you reposted it. And there may be no explanation, but there's also no reason. Nor is there one for my saying "four years" :-) [ clip] > I don't like being called a liar. I didn't say you plagiarised > SPACE.com's story. I said you reposted it. That is not true. You are twisting the words in true Post Modernist fashion. In your own words you said, and I quote your words exactly, that I had been "posting someone else's story." I did, however, "repost" the story, but that is not what you said. Occasional errors of writing are easily overlooked, and they may be corrected with a subsequent post. I have corrected the errors from my post. You, however, has continued to distort words and not tell the truth about words that you yourself had said. Why didn't you have something to say regarding Hoyle's world-shaking ideas and, instead, you have taken an accusational approach? Ralph Hertle > >> A bit belated, don't you think Ralph??? > >He went out with a "big bang" which is still reverberating throughout [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Which doesn't explain why Ralph is not quite four years late posting > someone else's story.. While Fred Hoyle may be best known for his slightly boring Steady State Universe theory, his Panspermia theory is certainly a lot more interesting, even if a little less credible. That the spores of life could be carried throughout the universe by those dirty snowballs that are comets certainly has an appeal. I have wondered myself, as did Hoyle, whether the programming for all the advanced species could be present in the DNA of the most apparently primitive life forms, so that once life finds a suitable home, the higher species slowly develop like the blossoming of a flower. This would mean that evolution is not a blind process as Darwin envisioned, but process preprogrammed into life. Did the living cells ever evolve in the first place? Given Hoyle's Steady State theory, the universe had no beginning; it was always here. So, could life have been always here? Double-A > He went out with a "big bang" which is still reverberating throughout > the cosmos to this day. Unlike our dear little Mad Scientist, who seems to have disappeared with nary a whimper. <g> >> He went out with a "big bang" which is still reverberating throughout >> the cosmos to this day. > >Unlike our dear little Mad Scientist, who seems to have disappeared with >nary a whimper. <g> Haven't you heard of "talk of the devil"? ;-) >> He went out with a "big bang" which is still reverberating throughout >> the cosmos to this day. > > Unlike our dear little Mad Scientist, who seems to have disappeared > with nary a whimper. <g> Back at school. Jo > > He went out with a "big bang" which is still reverberating throughout > > the cosmos to this day. > > Unlike our dear little Mad Scientist, who seems to have disappeared with > nary a whimper. <g> But his absence is felt, and it is golden! Double-A > A bit belated, don't you think Ralph??? Yes. But truth is death, isn't it? > > A bit belated, don't you think Ralph??? > > Yes. > > But truth is death, isn't it? Interesting ... does that imply that falsehood is life ... ... WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU BABBLING ABOUT??? > > > A bit belated, don't you think Ralph??? > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > ... WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU BABBLING ABOUT??? Perhaps this is Ralph's way of saying that BS makes the world go 'round? As BS dwindles, anon approaches the Grim Reaper. "Life's an illusion -- Death the sole truth" happy days and starry starry nights Paine Lithium, its not just for breakfast anymore! > ..................................... > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > ..................................... > ..................................... > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > ..................................... No. no. It was Fred Whipple who died ... Mr Dirty Snowball... Get yer ears syringed! |
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