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Raving - 26 Nov 2008 02:48 GMT
The Federal Reserve and the Treasury announced $800 billion in new
lending programs on Tuesday, sending a message that they will print as
much money as needed to revive the crippled banking system.

The two new efforts — one mainly to finance loans for consumers, and
an even bigger one to push down home mortgage rates — marked the
latest but hardly the last of the federal government’s efforts to
shoulder the losses that began with subprime mortgages and have spread
throughout the economy.

All told, the government has assumed at least $7 trillion in direct
and indirect financial obligations in the form of Wall Street
bailouts, emergency lending and government guarantees on bank
deposits, inter-bank loans and home mortgages.  ...

 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/us/politics/26paulson.html

----------------------------------------------------

U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 26 Nov 2008 at 02:42:06 AM GMT is:
$10,658,914,704,392.65

The estimated population of the United States is 305,161,918
so each citizen's share of this debt is $34,928.72.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$3.89 billion per day since September 28, 2007!
Concerned? Then tell Congress and the White House!

       http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

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From $700 billion to $7 trillion in a blink of an eye.

 ... Look who is doing creative accounting now!

 Hmm, something doesn't add up.
greysky - 26 Nov 2008 08:29 GMT
The Federal Reserve and the Treasury announced $800 billion in new
lending programs on Tuesday, sending a message that they will print as
much money as needed to revive the crippled banking system.

The two new efforts — one mainly to finance loans for consumers, and
an even bigger one to push down home mortgage rates — marked the
latest but hardly the last of the federal government’s efforts to
shoulder the losses that began with subprime mortgages and have spread
throughout the economy.

All told, the government has assumed at least $7 trillion in direct
and indirect financial obligations in the form of Wall Street
bailouts, emergency lending and government guarantees on bank
deposits, inter-bank loans and home mortgages.  ...

 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/us/politics/26paulson.html

----------------------------------------------------

U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 26 Nov 2008 at 02:42:06 AM GMT is:
$10,658,914,704,392.65

The estimated population of the United States is 305,161,918
so each citizen's share of this debt is $34,928.72.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$3.89 billion per day since September 28, 2007!
Concerned? Then tell Congress and the White House!

       http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From $700 billion to $7 trillion in a blink of an eye.

 ... Look who is doing creative accounting now!

 Hmm, something doesn't add up.
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The government is in a pure panic mode. They need to find a way to stop the
credit implosion that could result in the elimination of 800 trillion to 1
quintillion dollars in fiat currency. Looked at in this way, 7 trillion is
not so much. It is my view that they are only putting off  the reckoning day
for their bad decisions and moral corruption probably for only a year of two
because thay don't understand the nature or magnitude of the current crises.
The world economy will not be able to withstand the intense hyperinflation
that this is going to cause as this fiat infusion percolates through the
economy once the banks begin to release all the greenbacks they are
currently hoarding. Can the USA withstand a real time inflation rate of
1,000 % ? Not for long... Make no mistake, we are currently in the first
stages of a Depression that will make 1929 pale in comparison. In the end
paper money will be totally worthless trash - you wont even be able to burn
it because of all the chemicals that are in it.

Greysky
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 26 Nov 2008 14:52 GMT
Greysky  Best to keep the republican election cry  No new taxes. Which
in reality means Lets not pay up now. Which means let the next
generation get the bill.  The republican Mafia has buried America and
its democratic government of the people. 85% of the people poled are
against bailout,and they got a one finger solute.  Florida has been a
fascist state for 12 years. Washington has turned USA into a fascist
state.  Sad but think about it and you will have to realize this is
reality    TreBert
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 26 Nov 2008 18:11 GMT
TEST
Saul Levy - 27 Nov 2008 01:37 GMT
Very CLEVER of you, BEERTbrain!  lmfjao!

What the f.ck are you doing?

Saul Levy

>TEST
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 27 Nov 2008 18:33 GMT
Cactus Saul First time in 10 years my posts were not going up after over
2 hours  Go figure  TreBert
Raving - 27 Nov 2008 21:39 GMT
> Cactus Saul First time in 10 years my posts were not going up after over
> 2 hours  Go figure  TreBert
Webtv is losing it's technological edge? Surely not. Oh, the horror of
it!

... and happy Thanksgiving, eh.
Saul Levy - 28 Nov 2008 17:12 GMT
That's Troubling Planetary News, Raving?  lmfjao!

Sounds like WebTV needs to be burped!

Saul Levy

>> Cactus Saul First time in 10 years my posts were not going up after over
>> 2 hours  Go figure  TreBert
>Webtv is losing it's technological edge? Surely not. Oh, the horror of
>it!
>
> ... and happy Thanksgiving, eh.
Double-A - 27 Nov 2008 22:06 GMT
> Cactus Saul First time in 10 years my posts were not going up after over
> 2 hours  Go figure  TreBert

alt.test

Double-A
Saul Levy - 26 Nov 2008 20:52 GMT
It won't work.  Those MORONS have NO IDEA how to save anything but
their a.ses!

The Weimar Republic all over again, Raving!  lmfjao!

Wait until we spend $1000 for a loaf of BREAD!

Saul Levy

>The Federal Reserve and the Treasury announced $800 billion in new
>lending programs on Tuesday, sending a message that they will print as
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>
>  Hmm, something doesn't add up.
Double-A - 26 Nov 2008 21:51 GMT
> It won't work.  Those MORONS have NO IDEA how to save anything but
> their a.ses!

Are you sure that wasn't "assets"?

> The Weimar Republic all over again, Raving!  lmfjao!
>
> Wait until we spend $1000 for a loaf of BREAD!
>
> Saul Levy

Shall we buy the wheelbarrows now?

Double-A

> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:48:22 -0800 (PST), Raving
>
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>
> >  Hmm, something doesn't add up.
Saul Levy - 27 Nov 2008 01:35 GMT
No, a.ses is what I meant, DA!  lmfjao!  A lot of assets are GONE!

You won't be able to afford a wheelbarrow soon!

Saul Levy

>> It won't work.  Those MORONS have NO IDEA how to save anything but
>> their a.ses!
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>
>Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 27 Nov 2008 14:09 GMT
Double A  You can be a concerned citizen,and want to fight back,but are
boxed in.  The press is our watch dog,and most are republican owned.
The truth on USA economy is a Nixon coverup.  Its to late to
cure.Bailout money is like giving a corpse a shot of Bud light,instead
of formaldehyde.  TreBert
Double-A - 27 Nov 2008 22:26 GMT
> Double A  You can be a concerned citizen,and want to fight back,but are
> boxed in.  The press is our watch dog,and most are republican owned.

Really?  This is the notorious "liberal press" we're talking about?

When I was a boy, the Oregonian used to proudly display "A Republican
Newspaper" on its masthead.  But that has been gone for years.  It
later merged with the Oregon Jounal, which was the Democratic
newspaper.  Both papers had been bought by the Neuhouse chain.

> The truth on USA economy is a Nixon coverup.  Its to late to
> cure.Bailout money is like giving a corpse a shot of Bud light,instead
> of formaldehyde.  TreBert

But the rot in the economy cannot be hidden any longer.

Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 27 Nov 2008 23:20 GMT
Double A People on my street see the same bank that took their down
payment money(their fifes savings) and then foreclose (kick them out as
soon as possible)  and now these same banks getting billions and
billions of bucks is down right despicable.  I will give these people my
blessings if they storm their bank to get their money back. Charlie
Crist will have his state police(storm troopers) guarding these banks
such as Central and Capital(Mafia owned)   TreBert
Double-A - 27 Nov 2008 23:55 GMT
> Double A People on my street see the same bank that took their down
> payment money(their fifes savings) and then foreclose (kick them out as
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Crist will have his state police(storm troopers) guarding these banks
> such as Central and Capital(Mafia owned)   TreBert

These are the kinds of things that made many people in past
generations rooted for the bank robbers, sometimes even hiding them
in  their homes!

Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 28 Nov 2008 13:17 GMT
Double A Bonnie & Clide are seen as heroes.  Maybe our forefathers were
smart having all citizens having guns. Rather than losing every thing to
these corrupt banks stealing their life savings and throwing them on the
street they should shoot it out.  That way the fascist in Washington
will take note,and know people are on the march. The new song will be
Pass the ammunition to be free.  TreBert
Double-A - 28 Nov 2008 21:07 GMT
> Double A Bonnie & Clide are seen as heroes.  Maybe our forefathers were
> smart having all citizens having guns.

Makes everybody equal.

>Rather than losing every thing to
> these corrupt banks stealing their life savings and throwing them on the
> street they should shoot it out.  That way the fascist in Washington
> will take note,and know people are on the march. The new song will be
> Pass the ammunition to be free.  TreBert

The 2nd Amendment is there in case the other Amendments stop working!

Double-A
Saul Levy - 29 Nov 2008 15:14 GMT
Or in case of an Obama-lama who wants to take all guns away, DA!
Jimminy Peanut Carter was going to do that too.  He never did!

I bought a gun just in case!  Didn't want to spend the money, but...

I need it to defend myself from MORONS like WartPiggy!

Saul Levy

>> Double A Bonnie & Clide are seen as heroes.  Maybe our forefathers were
>> smart having all citizens having guns.
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>
>Double-A
Double-A - 29 Nov 2008 20:53 GMT
> Or in case of an Obama-lama who wants to take all guns away, DA!
> Jimminy Peanut Carter was going to do that too.  He never did!
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>
> Saul Levy

I had some unregistered guns.  Unregistered because they were bought
by mail order back in the 50's before registration was required, and
Oregon has no law that you have to register guns just because you have
them.  But as soon as I sold them to the gunshop, they had to
immediately enter them into the police database.

Double-A

> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:07:06 -0800 (PST), Double-A
>
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>
> >Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 30 Nov 2008 13:09 GMT
Cactus Saul  Every Jew should have a gun now that USA has gone fascist.
Blacks as well. Osceola sheriff Bob Hansel has used his deputies to
threaten my life(Edward Flores) used his relatives he made deputies of
and searched my house without a warrant.  Used three deputies to keep me
from going into my civic center that he was attending thus taking away
my first amendment rights.  I now protect myself from the sheriff
department with a 357 magnum. I have had enough, Sheriff Bob Hansel is
aware of my gun,and knows I will use it.  Our forefathers were very
clever.  TreBert
BradGuth - 30 Nov 2008 13:18 GMT
> Cactus Saul  Every Jew should have a gun now that USA has gone fascist.
> Blacks as well. Osceola sheriff Bob Hansel has used his deputies to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> aware of my gun,and knows I will use it.  Our forefathers were very
> clever.  TreBert

Nice place you call home sweet home, that's worth dying for?

~ BG
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 30 Nov 2008 18:57 GMT
BG  A person home is his castle,and we all have the right to defend our
castles.  Osceola county is 100% corrupt. Having one honest official
would cause big problems   TreBert
Double-A - 30 Nov 2008 20:15 GMT
> BG  A person home is his castle,and we all have the right to defend our
> castles.  Osceola county is 100% corrupt. Having one honest official
> would cause big problems   TreBert

Might as well have a gun in your hand to begin with, Bert.  Because
after they gun you down, they will stick a gun or knife in your hand
anyway to give them their excuse.

Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 30 Nov 2008 21:20 GMT
Double A They that kill me need no excuse. A sheriff deputy could be
holding a smoking gun,and have a hundred people witness him shutting me
in the back of the head,and none would say a word.  This happens often
now that Florida is a fascist state.   Who really killed JFK?  It was
not a crazy person. It was a conspiracy of high officials and the Mafia.
You could see the cover up so easy it was not funny.   Ruby ran a Mafia
bar.   TreBert
BradGuth - 30 Nov 2008 22:58 GMT
> Double A They that kill me need no excuse. A sheriff deputy could be
> holding a smoking gun,and have a hundred people witness him shutting me
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> You could see the cover up so easy it was not funny.   Ruby ran a Mafia
> bar.   TreBert

The good news, JFK was just good target practice, as they'll have yet
another clean shot at BHO, especially before he starts handing out
those 10,000+ pink-slips as of day-1, and otherwise shutting down at
least 10% of public funded agencies under his command.

Unfortunately, of what we need we can no longer afford, thanks to our
mostly republican Mafia.

What other option does BHO have?

 ~ BG
Saul Levy - 01 Dec 2008 13:51 GMT
BO could just SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD, BradBoi!  lmfjao!

Saul Levy

>> Double A They that kill me need no excuse. A sheriff deputy could be
>> holding a smoking gun,and have a hundred people witness him shutting me
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>  ~ BG
BradGuth - 30 Nov 2008 22:48 GMT
> BG  A person home is his castle,and we all have the right to defend our
> castles.  Osceola county is 100% corrupt. Having one honest official
> would cause big problems   TreBert

They could always accuse that "one honest official" as being part of a
terrorist sleeper cell (no actual objective evidence required), and
that way DHS would do all the dirty work, similar to their getting
Romans to put Christ on a stick.

~ BG
Saul Levy - 01 Dec 2008 00:52 GMT
KILL THE MARXIST PIGS!

Saul Levy

>> Cactus Saul  Every Jew should have a gun now that USA has gone fascist.
>> Blacks as well. Osceola sheriff Bob Hansel has used his deputies to
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> ~ BG
Double-A - 01 Dec 2008 21:08 GMT
> KILL THE MARXIST PIGS!
>
> Saul Levy

Careful with that kind of talk, Saul.  Homeland Security is always
monitoring.  It's not like we live in a free country anymore.

Double-A

> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:18:24 -0800 (PST), BradGuth

> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Cactus Saul  Every Jew should have a gun now that USA has gone fascist.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> > ~ BG
Saul Levy - 02 Dec 2008 05:22 GMT
f.ck THOSE MARXIST PIGS, DA!  lmfjao!

Saul Levy

>> KILL THE MARXIST PIGS!
>>
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>
>Double-A
Saul Levy - 30 Nov 2008 18:18 GMT
They didn't save us from the DISASTER of Obama-lama, BEERTbrain!
lmfjao!

An uneducated society is just PLAIN STUPID!

Saul Levy

>Cactus Saul  Every Jew should have a gun now that USA has gone fascist.
>Blacks as well. Osceola sheriff Bob Hansel has used his deputies to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>aware of my gun,and knows I will use it.  Our forefathers were very
>clever.  TreBert
Saul Levy - 01 Dec 2008 00:50 GMT
Mine is not registered either and the gun shop it was purchased at has
gone out of business, DA.

Saul Levy

>> Or in case of an Obama-lama who wants to take all guns away, DA!
>> Jimminy Peanut Carter was going to do that too.  He never did!
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 01 Dec 2008 14:38 GMT
Cactus Saul Gun kept in your home does not need to be licensed   Trebert
BradGuth - 01 Dec 2008 17:23 GMT
> Cactus Saul Gun kept in your home does not need to be licensed   Trebert

Nor would a WMD, such as VX that our nation still has way more than
its fair share of.

How about a quart of pure Ricin for good measure.  In Russia they use
Po210.

~ BG
Double-A - 01 Dec 2008 21:02 GMT
> > Cactus Saul Gun kept in your home does not need to be licensed   Trebert
>
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>
>  ~ BG

I wonder where one goes to license his Ricin?

Double-A
BradGuth - 01 Dec 2008 21:22 GMT
> > > Cactus Saul Gun kept in your home does not need to be licensed   Trebert
>
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>
> Double-A

Keeping your mouth shut allows you to have as much Ricin on hand as
you'd care to store for that rainy day, so to speak, to use whenever
you need to get rid of anyone or any large group of individuals that's
bothering you.

There are faith-based groups that actually worship by using toxins.

Dip each bullet into the Ricin and you've got yourself a for-real WMD
that'll fly.  Of course you may as well have to pay the ultimate price
if any of that Ricin gets on yourself.  In other words, never stand
upwind, especially if working with deploying VX.

~ BG
Saul Levy - 01 Dec 2008 18:49 GMT
Not in Arizona, but elsewhere it does, BEERTbrain!  lmfjao!

Look at that IDIOT in New York who SHOT HIMSELF!  He's been charged
with illegal possession of a gun.

Saul Levy

>Cactus Saul Gun kept in your home does not need to be licensed   Trebert
Double-A - 01 Dec 2008 21:00 GMT
> Not in Arizona, but elsewhere it does, BEERTbrain!  lmfjao!
>
> Look at that IDIOT in New York who SHOT HIMSELF!  He's been charged
> with illegal possession of a gun.
>
> Saul Levy

The gun ban in Washington, DC will soon be going before the Supereme
Court.  If they throw it out, that should be the end of these outright
gun bans.  They're all unconstitutional, you know.

Double-A

> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:38:34 -0500, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2
>
> Glazier) wrote:
> >Cactus Saul Gun kept in your home does not need to be licensed   Trebert
Saul Levy - 02 Dec 2008 01:23 GMT
Yes I know, DA!  That's another reason to live in Arizona!

Saul Levy

>> Not in Arizona, but elsewhere it does, BEERTbrain!  lmfjao!
>>
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>
>Double-A
Saul Levy - 29 Nov 2008 08:55 GMT
Obama-lama the Messiah too, BEERTbrain!  lmfjao!

He's a DISASTER!

Saul Levy

>Double A Bonnie & Clide are seen as heroes.  Maybe our forefathers were
>smart having all citizens having guns. Rather than losing every thing to
>these corrupt banks stealing their life savings and throwing them on the
>street they should shoot it out.  That way the fascist in Washington
>will take note,and know people are on the march. The new song will be
>Pass the ammunition to be free.  TreBert
Double-A - 26 Nov 2008 21:47 GMT
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> The estimated population of the United States is 305,161,918
> so each citizen's share of this debt is $34,928.72.

Why that's completely unsustainable!

Double-A
BradGuth - 30 Nov 2008 12:55 GMT
> The Federal Reserve and the Treasury announced $800 billion in new
> lending programs on Tuesday, sending a message that they will print as
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>
>   Hmm, something doesn't add up.

Our national do-everything federal debt is more like $57 trillion and
counting, of which this does not include individual state debts.

Amazing what artificially adding $100/barrel of oil did to us and the
entire world that had no option but to inflate most everything in
order to break even, or simply in order to minimize their losses.

Way to go corrupt (mostly offshore protected) corporations.

Way to go corrupt governments and greedy agencies within.

Way to go republican Mafia.

Way to go warlord Bush.

~ BG
 
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