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Space Forum / Astronomy / December 2008Mission Accomplished: India fifth in world to reach moon
soon, the orbiter will turn on its terrain mapper. We will find out if US actually landed on the moon. The presence (or absence) of a lander at the alleged landing area would be proof. ------ Mission Accomplished: India fifth in world to reach moon 15 Nov 2008, 0154 hrs IST, Srinivas Laxman, TNN MUMBAI: The tricolour landed on the Moon at 8.31 pm on Friday, opening a new chapter in the history of India’s space exploration. Up Close: An image of the Moon's surface taken by the MIP as it approached the lunar surface. Courtesy ISRO Other entities which have reached the Moon are the US, former Soviet Union, Japan (albeit via a malfunction that sent its orbiter crashing onto the lunar surface) and the European Space Agency (17 nations). India becomes the fifth member of this club. The tricolour was painted on all sides of the 29 kg Moon Impact Probe (MIP) which was attached to the top portion of the main lunar orbiter, Chandrayaan. The MIP is the brainchild of former President A P J Abdul Kalam who witnessed its separation from the main orbiting craft and its crashlanding 32 km from the Shackleton crater on the moon’s south pole from the mission control room at ISRO’s telemetry, tracking and command network (ISTRAC) in Bangalore. ISRO officials told TOI that the countdown for the MIP’s much-awaited flight to the surface of the Moon began at 7.47 pm. It went off smoothly and at 8.01 pm the command was issued for it to separate from the orbiting spacecraft. The MIP began its flight towards the Moon’s south pole and after a 25-minute flight, crashlanded. During its flight, its video camera took pictures of the Moon, the spectrometer began its analysis and the altitude meter did what is known as a ranging. While approaching the Moon, it slowed down slightly, then spun. While spinning, its three instruments went into action. When it was 5 km above the Moon’s surface, the altimeter did the ‘ranging of the Moon’. ‘‘All this while the atmosphere was pretty tense in the mission control room,’’ said a scientist. Kalam’s rationale for including the MIP was that since Chandrayaan was orbiting the Moon at an altitude of 100 km above the lunar surface, a landing would make India’s presence felt on the Moon’s surface. He believed that if this was done, India could always stake a claim to a portion of the Moon. On Nov 14, 6:20 pm, visualseep...@yahoo.com wrote: > soon, the orbiter will turn on its terrain mapper. We will find out > if US actually landed on the moon. The presence (or absence) of a [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > believed that if this was done, India could always stake a claim to a > portion of the Moon. I'm sure Bollywood will produce some nice fake photos...JG Then there will be the hoaxters who will build up a case that the Indian moon shot project is a fake, too. They also had this hoax hoax go around in China back 1/2-1 year ago when they did some big space project, too. > Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:20:35 -0800 (PST) > From: visualseeplus@yahoo.com [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > believed that if this was done, India could always stake a claim to a > portion of the Moon. > Then there will be the hoaxters who will build up a case that the > Indian moon shot project is a fake, too. They also had this hoax hoax > go around in China back 1/2-1 year ago when they did some big space > project, too. Are you thinking about their claimed microsatellite that was supposed to have rendezvoused with another satellite a few years back? A lot of people thought that was a hoax at the time. Pat i think the mip drop is not intended for the purpose - of making india's presence felt - attributed to pres kalam. the idea is that a high impact would kick up large enough a cloud of dust which could be studied for h3 content. soon, the orbiter will turn on its terrain mapper. We will find out if US actually landed on the moon. The presence (or absence) of a lander at the alleged landing area would be proof. ------ Mission Accomplished: India fifth in world to reach moon 15 Nov 2008, 0154 hrs IST, Srinivas Laxman, TNN MUMBAI: The tricolour landed on the Moon at 8.31 pm on Friday, opening a new chapter in the history of India’s space exploration. Up Close: An image of the Moon's surface taken by the MIP as it approached the lunar surface. Courtesy ISRO Other entities which have reached the Moon are the US, former Soviet Union, Japan (albeit via a malfunction that sent its orbiter crashing onto the lunar surface) and the European Space Agency (17 nations). India becomes the fifth member of this club. The tricolour was painted on all sides of the 29 kg Moon Impact Probe (MIP) which was attached to the top portion of the main lunar orbiter, Chandrayaan. The MIP is the brainchild of former President A P J Abdul Kalam who witnessed its separation from the main orbiting craft and its crashlanding 32 km from the Shackleton crater on the moon’s south pole from the mission control room at ISRO’s telemetry, tracking and command network (ISTRAC) in Bangalore. ISRO officials told TOI that the countdown for the MIP’s much-awaited flight to the surface of the Moon began at 7.47 pm. It went off smoothly and at 8.01 pm the command was issued for it to separate from the orbiting spacecraft. The MIP began its flight towards the Moon’s south pole and after a 25-minute flight, crashlanded. During its flight, its video camera took pictures of the Moon, the spectrometer began its analysis and the altitude meter did what is known as a ranging. While approaching the Moon, it slowed down slightly, then spun. While spinning, its three instruments went into action. When it was 5 km above the Moon’s surface, the altimeter did the ‘ranging of the Moon’. ‘‘All this while the atmosphere was pretty tense in the mission control room,’’ said a scientist. Kalam’s rationale for including the MIP was that since Chandrayaan was orbiting the Moon at an altitude of 100 km above the lunar surface, a landing would make India’s presence felt on the Moon’s surface. He believed that if this was done, India could always stake a claim to a portion of the Moon. > i think the mip drop is not intended for the purpose - of making india's > presence felt - attributed to pres kalam. [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > believed that if this was done, India could always stake a claim to a > portion of the Moon. http://www.ridingwithrobots.org/blog/?p=976 http://www.indiashines.com/saran-blog-6550 ~ BG > soon, the orbiter will turn on its terrain mapper. We will find out > if US actually landed on the moon. The presence (or absence) of a > lander at the alleged landing area would be proof. > With a resolution of five meters from orbit, it might have a hard time seeing the LM descent stages, much less footprints or flags: http://tinyurl.com/6rn7g4 Pat Hundreds of millions of people in India are suffering from severe poverty. The government of India would rather waste money on a useless space program than improve conditions for citizens. > Hundreds of millions of people in India are suffering from severe > poverty. The government of India would rather waste money on a > useless space program than improve conditions for citizens. Y'know, I'm the first one to defend the space program but I have to say other than a major ego-boost what exactly does this project bring to India? On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:25:56 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, Disneygeek <edrhodes@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: >> Hundreds of millions of people in India are suffering from severe >> poverty. The government of India would rather waste money on a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >say other than a major ego-boost what exactly does this project bring >to India? The ability to develop space technology, and leverage it to eventually get wealth from off planet. > The ability to develop space technology, and leverage it to eventually > get wealth from off planet. Since your greed for wealth on the planet and from the planet has almost destroyed it by now. Great job you f.cking ignorant, pathetic fascist. >> The ability to develop space technology, and leverage it to eventually >> get wealth from off planet. > >Since your greed for wealth on the planet and from the planet has almost >destroyed it by now. Great job you f.cking ignorant, pathetic fascist. Lookiee! Everyone's least-favorite Nazi troll has crawled back out from under his rock. Whassamattter, Elfnazi? Couldn't find any of the local island kids to bugger for a quarter? Go f.ck yourself, eh? >>> The ability to develop space technology, and leverage it to eventually >>> get wealth from off planet. >> Since your greed for wealth on the planet and from the planet has almost >> destroyed it by now. Great job you f.cking ignorant, pathetic fascist. Hidden in the headers " *Organization : Peek-a-boo! I see you, you fuckwit troll!* > Go f.ck yourself, eh? Robert Mosley III of Austin, Texas USA >The ability to develop space technology, and leverage it to eventually >get wealth from off planet. ...Or, depending on how you look at it, get wealth *off* the planet :-P OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ > Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:58:39 GMT > From: Rand Simberg <simberg.interglobal@org.trash> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > The ability to develop space technology, and leverage it to eventually > get wealth from off planet. Or, in other words, not only sell cheap currency and cheap flesh to the first world, but sell cheap launch services to the first world. i.e. more jobs _out_ of the first world and into third world. Good deal for third world, bad deal for jobs in first world. On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:50:51 +0000, in a place far, far away, Stray Dog <sdog2008@sdf.lonestar.org> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: >> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:58:39 GMT >> From: Rand Simberg <simberg.interglobal@org.trash> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >first world, but sell cheap launch services to the first world. i.e. more >jobs _out_ of the first world and into third world. Those "other words" are your words, and have nothing to do with what I wrote. In fact, they are a complete non sequitur. > Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:24:44 GMT > From: Rand Simberg <simberg.interglobal@org.trash> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Those "other words" are your words, and have nothing to do with what I > wrote. In fact, they are a complete non sequitur. Every third world country, attempting to become something higher up the food chain, organizes itself to do just two things: i) keep its currency (and cost of local flesh) cheap, and ii) sell anything it can to anyone and everyone in the first world. They do this because they want the "fast track" trajectory to a higher status instead of a slower growth by which they grow themselves up without taking jobs away from first world countries, which is what is happening now. "Getting wealth off the planet"--your words--is actually by getting it from where it already exists, the first world. And, in the process, its already making banana republics out of the first world. On Nov 15, 10:58 am, simberg.interglo...@org.trash (Rand Simberg) wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:25:56 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > The ability to develop space technology, and leverage it to eventually > get wealth from off planet. So they're going to ignore the UN resolution that stated that no nation on Earth would claim or expolit resources from space? And even if they did, "eventually," life is miserable in India NOW! (I realize this is similar to the old argument; "There are people in the ghetto, why are we going into space?" but we were trying to both help the people in the ghetto, AND go to space. I don't see a lot of help for the destitute in India while they're developing nuclear capability and now venturing into space.) On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, Disneygeek <edrhodes@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: >On Nov 15, 10:58 am, simberg.interglo...@org.trash (Rand Simberg) >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >So they're going to ignore the UN resolution that stated that no >nation on Earth would claim or expolit resources from space? There is no such UN resolution. But if there were, yes, they should ignore it. >And even if they did, "eventually," life is miserable in India NOW! (I >realize this is similar to the old argument; "There are people in the >ghetto, why are we going into space?" but we were trying to both help >the people in the ghetto, AND go to space. I don't see a lot of help >for the destitute in India while they're developing nuclear capability >and now venturing into space.) Reducing India's space expenditures wouldn't make a small dent in the problem of destitute Indian's. But it would make a huge dent in India's future capability to do something about it. On Nov 26, 10:16 am, simberg.interglo...@org.trash (Rand Simberg) wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > There is no such UN resolution. But if there were, yes, they should > ignore it. I'd have to 100% agree with that. Our Selene/moon is strictly a first come first served kinda thing, an off-world land grab so to speak, as in end of argument. > >And even if they did, "eventually," life is miserable in India NOW! (I > >realize this is similar to the old argument; "There are people in the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > problem of destitute Indian's. But it would make a huge dent in > India's future capability to do something about it. Once again, I'm 100% with your mindset. However, why is our DARPA and NASA moderating whatever ISRO has to offer about our Selene/moon? ~ BG > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > Disneygeek <edrhodes@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > There is no such UN resolution. But if there were, yes, they should > ignore it. To clarify, there is a UN treaty (Outer Space Treaty) that forbids territorial claims in space, but that does *not* preclude mineral rights. There is precedent for this in terrestrial law, and now there is precedent in space law: no one has contested US claims of ownership of the Apollo samples, or the USSR claim of ownership of the Luna samples. The Moon Treaty would have pretty much killed mineral rights, but fortunately was never ratified by the major space-faring nations. > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > The Moon Treaty would have pretty much killed mineral rights, but > fortunately was never ratified by the major space-faring nations. These minerals and otherwise spendy elements such as He3 are for those capable of going there and exporting such back to Earth. India and China should each have that right, even if it means WWIII. Actually the Selene L1 (Earth-moon L1) is perhaps the most valuable asset. ~ BG > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > The Moon Treaty would have pretty much killed mineral rights, but > fortunately was never ratified by the major space-faring nations. Ah, thank you. So we're perfectly authorized to strip-mine the Moon? Lovely. >> The Moon Treaty would have pretty much killed mineral rights, but >> fortunately was never ratified by the major space-faring nations. > >Ah, thank you. So we're perfectly authorized to strip-mine the Moon? >Lovely. You'd rather we keep strip-mining the Earth? Can we start with your back yard? Brian > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:33:39 -0800 (PST), Disneygeek > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Brian That's true, whereas at the daunting rate we're going, with soon to be 1e10 hungry and energy starved folks to take care of, it seems most dry land and even some that's underwater will have to be pillaged and raped for all it's worth, even if it tales 90% of the mined energy or mineral value in the process. ~ BG > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:33:39 -0800 (PST), Disneygeek > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You'd rather we keep strip-mining the Earth? Can we start with your > back yard? The way the landlord keeps up my backyard? Nobody'd notice! > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Ah, thank you. So we're perfectly authorized to strip-mine the Moon? > Lovely. Why would a pretend-Atheist rabbi like yourself care either way? ~ BG went unread as he put his comments at the bottom You didn't miss anything! lmfjao! Same old sh.t from our VILLAGE IDIOT! Saul Levy > went unread as he put his comments at the bottom > went unread as he put his comments at the bottom > > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:16:33 -0800 (PST), BradGuth > > <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote: I've reposted as a clean reply page, so to speak. Hope that's a little better. ~ BG We don't care, BradBoi! lmfjao! Saul Levy >> went unread as he put his comments at the bottom >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ~ BG > went unread as he put his comments at the bottom That's where they are supposed to go!  SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster >> went unread as he put his comments at the bottom > >That's where they are supposed to go! Newbies! -- Shill #2 Dopeler effect: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when they come at you rapidly. > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Why would a pretend-Atheist rabbi like yourself care either way? Why do you have to turn everything into an insult quest? As I am neither "pretend-Atheist" (nor do I consider myself any sort of atheist) nor am I in any way Jewish, much less a "Rabbi," I really don't understand what point you are trying to make! > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > atheist) nor am I in any way Jewish, much less a "Rabbi," I really > don't understand what point you are trying to make! OK, so you are a devout heathen, and whenever anything turns bad or gets downright ugly or way spendy, there's not a faith-based soul on this Earth that's ever responsible or in any way complicit. If that's what makes you a happy camper, so be it. ~ BG >> > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, >> > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >OK, so you are a devout heathen, No ~ BG. Ed is a Believer. I'm the devout heathen. Can't you keep the sane people in this conversation straight in your "mind"? -- Shill #2 A man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle. Vique > >> > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > >> > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > A man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle. > Vique With hocus-pocus code names like Disneygeek or Government Shill #2, why of course it's easy to think of most everyone being as sane as Bugs Bunny, Hitler or GW Bush. ~ BG >> >> > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, >> >> > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >why of course it's easy to think of most everyone being as sane as >Bugs Bunny, Hitler or GW Bush. Bugs was sane. Not sure about Hitler. You and GW are total nuts ~ BG. Does that help? -- Shill #2 Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round... theobviousgcashman > >> >> > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > >> >> > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Bugs was sane. Not sure about Hitler. You and GW are total nuts ~ BG. Does > that help? I see that you're pissing off DARPA, MI-5 and those Rothschild Mafia types by responding to this topic. Of course you're not constructively contributing a damn thing that's on-topic. Go figure. ~ BG ~ BG In article <73dabafc-63f0-4399-b49a- 10c6dcd95b1c@a12g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, bradguth@gmail.com says... > > >> >> > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > >> >> > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > ~ BG Again, you just babble away.... Lollipop. SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster > In article <73dabafc-63f0-4399-b49a- > 10c6dcd95...@a12g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, bradg...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Lollipop. And your constructive contribution to "Mission Accomplished: India fifth in world to reach moon" is ????? ~ BG In article <c511aa5b-71cd-49b9-950c-c157802099d5 @s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, bradguth@gmail.com says... > > In article <73dabafc-63f0-4399-b49a- > > 10c6dcd95...@a12g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, bradg...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > ~ BG What I said is at least equally constructive as your's was. Lollipop broomhandle CZ75. SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster > In article <c511aa5b-71cd-49b9-950c-c157802099d5 > @s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, bradg...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > -- > BDK Is that so? Could have fooled Einstein. ~ BG In article <bc7d6839-c450-445f-b2e2- ff8859d6eaba@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, bradguth@gmail.com says... > > In article <c511aa5b-71cd-49b9-950c-c157802099d5 > > @s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, bradg...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > ~ BG Einstein would think you're nuts too, lollipop man. Sharp Sony Samsung LG Mitsubishi JVC Panasonic Westinghouse Polaroid. SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaste > In article <bc7d6839-c450-445f-b2e2- > ff8859d6e...@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, bradg...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > -- > BDK Say there, BDK. Just wondering why your JAXA with their 12+ bit HDTV can't manage to record any color/hue saturation, other than a pastel Earth? (where the hell did their color/hue dynamic range go?) Was there too much sodium fogging up their lens? This next one is for yourself and our resident Zionist/Nazi rabbis Saul Levy, Art Deco, plus our very own wizard of Oz William Mook, and otherwise for each of their vast company of brown-nosed minions and silly clowns of their DARPA and NASA mainstream status quo cabal, or bust. http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080310.html http://www.danilopivato.com/solar_system/moon/moon.htm How about we Google “moon occultation” then select Images Jupiter - Moon occultation: http://www.equatorialplatforms.com/moon.saturn.jpg http://sweiller.free.fr/AstroMovies/composites/20070302-SaturnOccultationMoonCol or.jpg http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/kleine_Ina.html http://www.avertedimagination.com/img_pages/kleine_Ina_vertical.html This public archive of mostly Selene/moon images isn’t half bad, though imagine how the f40 (395 meter focal length) of KECK could do nearly 100 fold better, including via earthshine and green laser illumination in addition to polarized optics, and then perhaps a whole lot better yet from ISRO that’s sort of holding back their 10 m/pixel TMC images. http://lpod.wikispaces.com/2008 http://www.avertedimagination.com/main1.htm http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm Moon mineralogy: (kinda bluish saturated due to the degree of UV secondary/recoil black-light affect), and otherwise soon enough a whole lot better yet from those ISRO HySI color/hue composites of their 64 (+/- 8 nm) color/hue bands.. http://lpod.wikispaces.com/November+7%2C+2008 This guy could certainly do a damn fine job of imaging our physically dark but otherwise fully solar illuminated Selene/moon along with a little old planet as reddish and relatively dim albedo as Mars included within the same FOV. Just think what Jupiter, Saturn and especially if having Venus within the same FOV as Selene is going to look like. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet” In article <6caab24c-1beb-4c4c-9e2b- a34515bb0adb@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, bradguth@gmail.com says... > > In article <bc7d6839-c450-445f-b2e2- > > ff8859d6e...@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, bradg...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > Earth? (where the hell did their color/hue dynamic range go?) Was > there too much sodium fogging up their lens? Is that the Guthball express I hear?? > This next one is for yourself and our resident Zionist/Nazi rabbis > Saul Levy, Art Deco, plus our very own wizard of Oz William Mook, and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080310.html > http://www.danilopivato.com/solar_system/moon/moon.htm Lollipop? > How about we Google =3Fmoon occultation=3F then select Images > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > http://www.avertedimagination.com/main1.htm > http://www.avertedimagination.com/latest_1.htm Yes, yes, All Day Lollipop! > Moon mineralogy: (kinda bluish saturated due to the degree of UV > secondary/recoil black-light affect), and otherwise soon enough a > whole lot better yet from those ISRO HySI color/hue composites of > their 64 (+/- 8 nm) color/hue bands.. > http://lpod.wikispaces.com/November+7%2C+2008 Sure, sure, lollipop. > This guy could certainly do a damn fine job of imaging our physically > dark but otherwise fully solar illuminated Selene/moon along with a > little old planet as reddish and relatively dim albedo as Mars > included within the same FOV. Just think what Jupiter, Saturn and > especially if having Venus within the same FOV as Selene is going to > look like. Cherry Lollipop? > ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / =3FGuth Usenet=3F Yep, that's the Guthball express I hear, the train to Babbletown. Whooooooo-whooooooo! SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster If you had HALF a brain cell working, BradBoi, you'd SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE HEAD FOR POSTING sh.t LIKE THIS! lmfjao! Saul Levy >Say there, BDK. Just wondering why your JAXA with their 12+ bit HDTV >can't manage to record any color/hue saturation, other than a pastel [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / Guth Usenet > > >> > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > >> > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > why of course it's easy to think of most everyone being as sane as > Bugs Bunny, Hitler or GW Bush. I've explained this before, I'll explain it again. I picked "Disneygeek" as my name for certain Walt Disney World boards that I frequent. I don't know why Google decided to keep the nickname for every board I visit. (I don't even subscribe to alt.conspiracy!) but there's certainly nothing sinister about it. Government Shill #2 is just pulling everybody's chain. >> > >> > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, >> > >> > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >Government Shill #2 is just pulling everybody's chain. I'm still amazed when some kOOker believes that because I call myself that it's proof that I am. Truly kOOktardish. -- Shill #2 Pay Section Disinformation Directorate Ministry of Information European Division > >> > >> > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > >> > >> > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > Ministry of Information > European Division Well, they believe all the crazy sh.t on the kookpages, so why are you shocked they would take the shill stuff seriously. It makes it even funnier. SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster >> >> > >> > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, >> >> > >> > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >Well, they believe all the crazy sh.t on the kookpages, so why are you >shocked they would take the shill stuff seriously. Yeah. I know I shouldn't, but it's hard to think like a kOOker. If someone calls themselves a shill for the Egg Board I, naturally, assume they are taking the piss. kOOkers like Brad go "Ah ha! An admission!" Weird. >It makes it even funnier. Oh yeah. Especially when I'm a shill for "The" government, as if there is only one. :-) -- Shill #2 Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round... theobviousgcashman > >> >> > >> > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > >> >> > >> > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > calls themselves a shill for the Egg Board I, naturally, assume they are > taking the piss. kOOkers like Brad go "Ah ha! An admission!" Weird. It is weird, but they don't think, well you know, like normal people, it's part of the kooktardic "process". > >It makes it even funnier. > > Oh yeah. Especially when I'm a shill for "The" government, as if there is > only one. :-) Shhhhhhhhhh! > -- > Shill #2 > > Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round... > theobviousgcashman SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster >> >> >> > >> > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, >> >> >> > >> > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > >Shhhhhhhhhh! Don't worry. Anyone who thinks someone calling themselves gov.shill is a shill of "The" government is never going to work out that there are governments all over the world. In fact they think the world extends approximately 10 miles from their front door. -- Shill #2 Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia. Charles M. Schulz (1922 - 2000) > >In article <j8tej4dngc4j7t8boam155k8jm65vc9...@4ax.com>, > >gov.sh...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > calls themselves a shill for the Egg Board I, naturally, assume they are > taking the piss. kOOkers like Brad go "Ah ha! An admission!" Weird. "taking the piss"? Where are you from? In a general sense of course, wouldn't want the Brad's of the world to get too close! >> >In article <j8tej4dngc4j7t8boam155k8jm65vc9...@4ax.com>, >> >gov.sh...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > >"taking the piss"? Where are you from? A Land Downunder. Although I'm currently posted to the European Division. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_the_piss >In a general sense of course, >wouldn't want the Brad's of the world to get too close! Brad couldn't find his arse with both hands and a map. -- Shill #2 Pfft...English! Who needs that? I'm never going to England. Homer J. Simpson > >> >In article <j8tej4dngc4j7t8boam155k8jm65vc9...@4ax.com>, > >> >gov.sh...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > Pfft...English! Who needs that? I'm never going to England. > Homer J. Simpson I wonder what he would be labeled on a map? "Here be a kooktard of kooktards!" SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster >> >> >In article <j8tej4dngc4j7t8boam155k8jm65vc9...@4ax.com>, >> >> >gov.sh...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > >"Here be a kooktard of kooktards!" Surrounded by a Bozone layer. -- Shill #2 Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stop bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future. > >In article <bhiij4tfncvvhcglp0gq9r48jhvfi3j...@4ax.com>, > >gov.sh...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the > near future. Why do you and every other brown-nosed clown in Usenet/newsgroups hate India and every other country except the United States (aka America)? ~ BG >> >In article <bhiij4tfncvvhcglp0gq9r48jhvfi3j...@4ax.com>, >> >gov.sh...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >Why do you and every other brown-nosed clown in Usenet/newsgroups hate >India India? I don't care about India, one way or another. The guy who sits next to me at work is from India. Nice enough guy. He's an aeronautical engineer. I *love* Indian curry. Mmmm... Vindaloo! >and every other country Hmm... I'm an Aussie, living in Europe. Quite a while back I lived in Malaysia for 2 years. Hate every other country? Nah. But I bet I know more about other countries than you do ~ BG >except the United States (aka America)? No "except" about it. If there was any country that I did hate it *would* be that one. As there isn't any, then the point it moot. -- Shill #2 Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) > >> >In article <bhiij4tfncvvhcglp0gq9r48jhvfi3j...@4ax.com>, > >> >gov.sh...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] > public. > H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) Then why do you believe and devoutly promote each and every last word our government and of its agencies (including our DARPA and multiple other cloak and dagger ones) as having their say about our Selene and other off-world places? Where exactly have you mentioned a good word on behalf of ISRO? How about a good word on behalf of China or Russia? (or are they simply all bad) ~ BG >> >> >In article <bhiij4tfncvvhcglp0gq9r48jhvfi3j...@4ax.com>, >> >> >gov.sh...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] >other cloak and dagger ones) as having their say about our Selene and >other off-world places? I have never, to my recollection, ever said what I do or don't believe ~ BG. My replies to your posts are usually ridiculing your attempts at English expression. Maybe if you could put together a few coherent sentences I might be able to agree with you, or at least understand your point. Try not posting in Babbleloonian. I think *your* government is as incompetent and greedy as anyone else's government. >Where exactly have you mentioned a good word on behalf of ISRO? I have no idea what ISRO is. Nor do I care. >How about a good word on behalf of China or Russia? (or are they >simply all bad) China has nice scenery and Russia makes good vodka. How's that? A good word each. Happy now ~ BG? -- Shill #2 Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) > >> >> >In article <bhiij4tfncvvhcglp0gq9r48jhvfi3j...@4ax.com>, > >> >> >gov.sh...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 117 lines] > > Happy now ~ BG? Certainly, why not. Anyone that can appreciate scenery and vodka at the same time can't be all bad, even though Hitler likes those as well. ~ BG In article <0423483b-6383-4077-bc26-2b116cd78b83 @z27g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, bradguth@gmail.com says... > > >> >> >In article <bhiij4tfncvvhcglp0gq9r48jhvfi3j...@4ax.com>, > > >> >> >gov.sh...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > > ~ BG Hitler didn't drink Brad. SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster Don't give in to him, Shill! lmfjao! RESIST! Saul Levy >I have never, to my recollection, ever said what I do or don't believe ~ >BG. My replies to your posts are usually ridiculing your attempts at [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Happy now ~ BG? ISRO? So damn what, BradBoi? lmfjao! Why should we care about it? China and Russia? f.ck THEM! Why? Because they are f.cking US! Saul Levy >Then why do you believe and devoutly promote each and every last word >our government and of its agencies (including our DARPA and multiple [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > ~ BG > >> >> >In article <j8tej4dngc4j7t8boam155k8jm65vc9...@4ax.com>, > >> >> >gov.sh...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the > near future. The kook's neural centers, similar to a human brain, expel Bozone as a by product of the kooktardic processes. Kinda smells like burnt rubber, I hear... SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > this Earth that's ever responsible or in any way complicit. If that's > what makes you a happy camper, so be it. Man, you do like to "black and white" everything, don't you? > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Man, you do like to "black and white" everything, don't you? I tell it as I see it. Either you're with us, or you're not. (clearly you are never with us) ~ BG In article <a1e3c048-743e-4048-80af-3c7cbc594937 @t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, bradguth@gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > ~ BG Who is "us" Brad? Who belongs to your little club, other than you? SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster >In article <a1e3c048-743e-4048-80af-3c7cbc594937 >@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, bradguth@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >Who is "us" Brad? Brad has a hamster in his pocket. >Who belongs to your little club, other than you? He seems sort of pally with Wornhole, although they sometimes have a kook spat. Loons of a feather... -- Shill #2 Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round... theobviousgcashman > >In article <a1e3c048-743e-4048-80af-3c7cbc594937 > >@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, bradguth@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Brad has a hamster in his pocket. Oh my! > >Who belongs to your little club, other than you? > > He seems sort of pally with Wornhole, although they sometimes have a kook > spat. Loons of a feather... I think Brad and Wormy are kind of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" type of buds. Other than the jew hatin', they don't really like each other.. I would donate to have a "Kooktardic Summit", where the top kooktards are flown into, say London, (If they are allowed to travel) and sit them all down at a huge table, give them topics and let the fun begin. I wonder how long it would take for one of them to shank one of the others? And how long it would be before one of them melts down to the point he has to be carted off. DVD sales could be big!! > -- > Shill #2 > > Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round... > theobviousgcashman SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster >> >In article <a1e3c048-743e-4048-80af-3c7cbc594937 >> >@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, bradguth@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > >DVD sales could be big!! I'd buy one. They'd make great xmas presents too. -- Shill #2 Is God really real, or is there some doubt? Monty Python (1983) > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > I tell it as I see it. Either you're with us, or you're not. (clearly > you are never with us) Considering some of the stuff you've come up with, you have no idea how happy that makes me! > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Considering some of the stuff you've come up with, you have no idea > how happy that makes me! In other words, you are not with anyone outside of our DARPA/NASA cartel and cabal of brown-nosed clowns and minions, because you have nothing to add or even to deductively contribute on behalf of this topic. Your ulterior motives and intentions are actually quite clear, just like those of a certain Pope, those Zionists and the Third Reich were quite unmistakably clear. You never deductively question or disqualify the likes of rabbis Art Deco or Saul Levy, and obviously your DARPA and NASA can do no wrong, so obviously you're unquestionably on their side of everything. ~ BG >> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, >> > > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >Deco or Saul Levy, and obviously your DARPA and NASA can do no wrong, >so obviously you're unquestionably on their side of everything. ~ BG just babbled you Ed. -- Shill #2 Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round... theobviousgcashman > >> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > >> > > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round... > theobviousgcashman Holy sh.t! And he wonders why he's thought of a a loon? ROTFL SignatureBDK BDK Klan leader? kOOk Magnet! NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster >> >> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, >> >> > > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > >ROTFL Did you know you're a DARPA/NASA cartel and cabal of brown-nosed clown and minion? You DARPA/NASA cartel and cabal of brown-nosed clown and minion you. -- Shill #2 There's nothing an agnostic can't do if he doesn't know whether he believes in anything or not. Monty Python > ~ BG just babbled you Ed. Sort of reminds me of the line from Michael Myer's "The Cat In The Hat." CHILD: The fish is talking! CAT: Yes, but is he really saying anything? > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > Deco or Saul Levy, and obviously your DARPA and NASA can do no wrong, > so obviously you're unquestionably on their side of everything. And you sir, have never seriously backed up a single claim you've made with anything resembling a verifiable reference! You don't even explain WHY the statements you make are significant to your proposition that we never went to the moon and that the entire thing was faked on a "guano island." > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > > > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > proposition that we never went to the moon and that the entire thing > was faked on a "guano island." You read whatever makes you a happy camper, and then never stop to think. You put words and/or analogies into the mouths of others, and then never stop to think. Like a parrot, you seldom if ever contribute anything original, and you have little if any deductive thinking capability, although I've known a few actual parrots that could. To the best of objective knowledge that we can all take to the bank, we did go to the moon (at least A-13). We simply did not walk on the moon. ~ BG >> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, >> > > > > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] >we did go to the moon (at least A-13). We simply did not walk on the >moon. And apart from dissertations written in Babbleoninloon you have never provide any evidence to back up this claim ~ BG. Lots of Babble. -- Shill #2 Pfft...English! Who needs that? I'm never going to England. Homer J. Simpson > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > > > > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > You put words and/or analogies into the mouths of others, and then > never stop to think. > Like a parrot, you seldom if ever contribute anything original, and > you have little if any deductive thinking capability, although I've [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > we did go to the moon (at least A-13). We simply did not walk on the > moon. I notice that once again, nowhere in this post do you support a damn thing you have to say with anything that can be verified. So you're still batting .000 on credibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > thing you have to say with anything that can be verified. So you're > still batting .000 on credibility. Someday when I'm seriously bored or getting paid for my efforts, I'll post each and every keystroke and web link that I've ever visited, as obviously of whatever I can find and deductively interpret, you can't. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > post each and every keystroke and web link that I've ever visited, as > obviously of whatever I can find and deductively interpret, you can't. "deductively interpret" as in "making it up as I go along." As I've said, my opinions are that the public record is right, we went to the moon several times and stopped because the public got bored. You made some allusion to my believing in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy because I believe the public record...this from the guy who believes (without a damn bit of verifiable evidence) that we could skim the toxic-acidic clouds of Venus in rigid airships borrowed from the inhabitits (sp) already there! As I said Brad, give up posting and start writing science-fantasy... you're a natural. Is BradBoi really better than Hoaxfart or Whitless Streiber, Dg? lmfjao! Saul Levy >As I said Brad, give up posting and start writing science-fantasy... >you're a natural. Dg is on our side, BradBoi, because we are RIGHT and you're NOT! lmfjao! Not hard to figure out, is it? Say where is Art Deco? Did you kidnap him? Saul Levy >In other words, you are not with anyone outside of our DARPA/NASA >cartel and cabal of brown-nosed clowns and minions, because you have [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > ~ BG BradBoi's on a RANT, Dg! lmfjao! One of MANY! Saul Levy >> Why would a pretend-Atheist rabbi like yourself care either way? > >Why do you have to turn everything into an insult quest? As I am >neither "pretend-Atheist" (nor do I consider myself any sort of >atheist) nor am I in any way Jewish, much less a "Rabbi," I really >don't understand what point you are trying to make! On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:33:39 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, Disneygeek <edrhodes@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: >> > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, >> > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >Ah, thank you. So we're perfectly authorized to strip-mine the Moon? >Lovely. You think that the moon is beautiful with all those craters on it? Why is it all right for nature to bombard it continuously for no reason at all, but not for us to mine it for resources to decrease local entropy, and bring life and joy to it? On Nov 29, 10:09 pm, simberg.interglo...@org.trash (Rand Simberg) wrote: > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:33:39 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > reason at all, but not for us to mine it for resources to decrease > local entropy, and bring life and joy to it?- Do you think a strip mine and the Grand Canyon have the same level of majesty and beauty? On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:23:19 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, Disneygeek <edrhodes@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: >> >> The Moon Treaty would have pretty much killed mineral rights, but >> >> fortunately was never ratified by the major space-faring nations. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Do you think a strip mine and the Grand Canyon have the same level of >majesty and beauty? No, not that it has any relevance. > On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:23:19 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > No, not that it has any relevance. We could use our best and most nasty of nuclear WMD in order to strip mine our Selene/moon, that is unless there's some cosmic kind of environmental impact policy that needs to be purchased, along with our taking actions of preserving or restoring some other moon. ~ BG > On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:23:19 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > No, not that it has any relevance. One is nature and one is mankind. On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 02:13:54 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, Disneygeek <edrhodes@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:23:19 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, >> Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >One is nature and one is mankind. And if mankind does it it's evil? Or what? What's your point? > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 02:13:54 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > And if mankind does it it's evil? Or what? What's your point?- I'm not trying to say "if man does it, it's evil." I'm saying that strip mining the Moon is not similar to it being riddled with craters. On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:41:42 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, Disneygeek <edrhodes@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: >> >> >> >> The Moon Treaty would have pretty much killed mineral rights, but >> >> >> >> fortunately was never ratified by the major space-faring nations. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >I'm not trying to say "if man does it, it's evil." I'm saying that >strip mining the Moon is not similar to it being riddled with craters. So? Again, what's your point? > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:41:42 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > So? Again, what's your point? The point is apparently to argue for the sake of wasting everyones time. Good thing and thank your lucky start that we're not arguing with William Mook. ~ BG > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:41:42 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away, > Disneygeek <edrho...@hotmail.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > So? Again, what's your point?- YOU'RE the one who started the thread on the Moon's craters! What was |
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