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Twittering One - 12 Nov 2008 15:38 GMT
Homeless Holiday Hype
New York Post
December 7, 2002

By Heather Mac Donald

It's the holiday season--the time when New York's press likes to
scarf
up the homelessness industry's lies even more eagerly than usual.
Thanksgiving week saw a cornucopia of made-for-the-media whoppers.

(more hype follows ...)

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/_nypost-homeless.htm

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More Holiday Homelesss Hype ...
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=gn&ned=us&q=homeless&btnG=Search+News

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Linda - 12 Nov 2008 18:50 GMT
> Homeless Holiday Hype
> New York Post
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> ~ * ~

On America's Satanic WASP's and Jews Outrageous War Economy

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/54250
Twittering One - 12 Nov 2008 18:59 GMT
Homelessness Cause Is Complicated
By Kimberly Orsborn

Mount Vernon News
November 12, 2008

MOUNT VERNON — There is no single cause to blame for homelessness and,
sometimes, the issue is complicated.

“Oftentimes we find that if they are younger people,” said Joy Harris,
executive director of Interchurch Social Services, “they have either
had a fight with someone they were staying with, or mom and dad are
trying to make them take responsibility for themselves by making them
leave home.

“Their stories vary, just as people vary. I do sometimes believe they
have made ‘bad’ choices, but unless they’ve had guidance in their
earlier lives, they may not know what is a good choice or an
appropriate choice. But who am I to make that judgment?” Harris asked.

(more)
http://www.mountvernonnews.com/local/08/11/12/homelessness-cause-is-complicated

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More Holiday Homelesss Hype ...
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=gn&ned=us&q=homeless&btnG=Searc...

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Linda - 12 Nov 2008 19:17 GMT
> Homelessness Cause Is Complicated

Lie.

ALL Displaced Americans are casualties of the warfare which America's
Satanic WASP's and Jews have been waging against all other Americans.

Being Displaced as a result of the warfare which America's Satanic
WASP's and Jews are waging against all other Americans is the ONLY
cause of Homelessness.

On America's Satanic WASP's and Jews Outrageous War Economy

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/54250
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 13 Nov 2008 14:31 GMT
Twitty  Its just about time for the republican Mafia to blame other
groups of people what Bush and Chaney have done to the USA economy
system. Jews have always been the best group to blame as history has
shown. Hispanic blamed for taking the low end jobs. and blacks blamed
for being to lazy to work,and only interested in being on welfare   Its
so very sad,but so very true. It is a big part of humankind history.
TreBert  Ps This begs the question will we Americans put the blame on
those that should in reality take the blame? Or has the stone walling
and cover up now in place to much to show the truth???
Twittering One - 13 Nov 2008 15:23 GMT
ALBANY, N.Y. -- November is Homeless Awareness Month ...
Capital 9 News

... and in an effort to help those who are less fortunate this holiday
season Albany County DA David Soares and Albany County Executive
Michael Breslin are putting on their dancing shoes. They're teaming up
with the Interfaith Partnership for the Homeless to perform the Cha-
Cha Slide to help "Stomp Out Homelessness".

Paper product donations will be accepted at noon today at West Capital
Park.

The Interfaith Partnership has provided shelter, clothes as well as
breakfast programs to the needy for about 25 years.

http://capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/127980/breslin--soares-team-up-for-the
-homeless/Default.aspx


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http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=gn&ned=us&nolr=1&q=homeless&btnG=Search
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Hagar - 14 Nov 2008 14:54 GMT
Only in America do the "homeless" have computers and Web access, but somehow
cannot be motivated to find a job and spend all day on-line bitching about
how bad off they are.

> Homeless Holiday Hype
> New York Post
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> ~ * ~
Linda - 14 Nov 2008 16:44 GMT
> Only in America do the "homeless" have computers and Web access,

but somehow
> cannot be motivated to find a job and spend all day on-line bitching about
> how bad off they are.

U.S. Aluminum Can Recycling Steady in 2006

The Aluminum Association, Can Manufacturers Institute (CMI), and
Institute of Scrap Recycling Industries (ISRI) today announced
statistics indicating that Americans and the aluminum industry
recycled 51.9 billion aluminum cans in 2006, half a billion more than
in 2005. It has the highest recycling rate of any beverage container
at 51.6 percent.

The aluminum beverage can is the most recycled consumer beverage
product in the United States and has been for more than 20 years. In
the U.S., 100.6 billion cans were produced in 2006 and the cans
recycled equaled approximately 1.52 billion pounds.

"The aluminum can is the most valuable packaging material to recycle,"
said Patrick M. Franc, chairman of The Aluminum Association and
president of ARCO Aluminum, Inc. "The practice of recycling aluminum
cans provides environmental, economic, and social benefits to
communities and organizations across the country."

"Aluminum cans continue to provide our customers and consumers with an
exceptional environmental package of choice," said Robert Budway,
president of the Can Manufacturers Institute. "When you recycle it
gets better and better compounding the benefits."

Recycling conserves energy, saves precious resources and minimizes
consumer and production waste. A can that is recycled can be back on
the store shelf in just 60 days. And it requires 95 percent less
energy and generates 95 percent less emissions.

The aluminum can industry continues to actively promote recycling
through the Curbside Value Partnership (CVP). CVP is a national
recycling program that helps communities grow participation in
residential curbside recycling programs and measures their
effectiveness. Recycling reduces carbon emissions and helps combat
climate change; so it is more important than ever to help re-energize
community recycling.

Funded by the Aluminum Association and the Can Manufacturers Institute
and their members - Alcoa, Anheuser-Busch Recycling, ARCO, Ball
Corporation, Novelis and REXAM, CVP is engaged with more than 40
communities. Partner communities have seen an average increase of 22
percent in recycling volume and 20 percent in participation.
Additionally, hundreds of other communities have benefited from the
best practices and resources shared on-line at www.recyclecurbside.org
and in print in the quarterly newsletter Bin Buzz.

The aluminum can industry supports the domestic market for aluminum
cans through marketing, research and recycling initiatives. Other
programs include the Cans for Habitat for Humanity recycling
partnership, the Recycle Challenge school drop-off program, can
advertising promotions, recycling promotion, student environmental
education programs, school and civic organization collection programs,
and other projects. The aluminum can industry recognizes and promotes
the value and importance of recycling.

The aluminum beverage can is 100 percent recyclable into new beverage
cans indefinitely - a demonstration of recycling at its finest.
Today's beverage can is lighter than ever with 34.21 cans per pound of
aluminum, almost 10 percent lighter than in 2004.

The aluminum can is the only packaging material that more than covers
the cost of collection and re-processing for itself. It also helps
subsidize the collection of other recyclable materials.

"The scrap recycling industry is encouraged that despite the modest
year-over-year growth, the report shows an increase in the volume of
recycled cans," said Robin Wiener, president of the Institute of Scrap
Recycling Industries. "This demonstrates that the all-aluminum can
continues to be recognized as a valuable recyclable commodity."

Recycling saves energy. Recycling 40 aluminum beverage cans has the
energy-saving equivalent of one gallon of gasoline. During 2006,
Americans recycled enough aluminum cans to conserve the energy
equivalent of over 15 million barrels of oil.

http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/163759/U_S_Aluminum_Can_Recycling_Steady_in_2
006_.htm

Mr Scooter - 20 Nov 2008 06:08 GMT
On , , Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:44:32 -0800 (PST), Re: ~ * Heather on
Homeless Holiday Hype * ~, Linda <Indomitable2@netzero.com>
wrote:

>Recycling saves energy. Recycling 40 aluminum beverage cans has the
>energy-saving equivalent of one gallon of gasoline.

Gee, I will have to drink more beer in aluminium (that's the way
we spell it in the rest of the world) cans.
I know an even better way, I'll refill the empty vodka bottles
that I fill from my still.
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 20 Nov 2008 18:21 GMT
Scooter  I help make the Earth green. Can Bud light gives the homeless 5
cents a can. 100 cans and he can have lunch   TreBert
Saul Levy - 21 Nov 2008 13:35 GMT
How much beer do you drink, BEERTbrain?  lmfjao!

How many blades of grass have you bought?

Saul Levy

>Scooter  I help make the Earth green. Can Bud light gives the homeless 5
>cents a can. 100 cans and he can have lunch   TreBert
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 21 Nov 2008 21:28 GMT
I only drink a six pack. My house is green.              Solar panels
Universal electric motors air aircondition with Sun heat Grow tall trees
on southern plane.  Good insulation.  Keep my aircondition up to snuff.
etc   TreBert
Linda - 14 Nov 2008 16:46 GMT
> Only in America do the "homeless" have computers and Web access, but somehow
> cannot be motivated to find a job and spend all day on-line bitching about
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Recycling is an economic development tool as well as an environmental
tool. Reuse, recycling, and waste reduction offer direct development
opportunities for communities. When collected with skill and care, and
upgraded with quality in mind, discarded materials are a local
resource that can contribute to local revenue, job creation, business
expansion, and the local economic base.

Recycling-based economic development has been a 30-year focus of
ILSR's work. It is the heart of our Waste to Wealth program. For three
decades, we have provided technical assistance linking reuse and
recycling with community development and have documented the job
creation and value added benefits of reuse and recycling.

On a per-ton basis, sorting and processing recyclables alone sustain
10 times more jobs than landfilling or incineration. However, making
new products from the old offers the largest economic pay-off in the
recycling loop. New recycling-based manufacturers employ even more
people and at higher wages than does sorting recyclables. Some
recycling-based paper mills and plastic product manufacturers, for
instance, employ on a per-ton basis 60 times more workers than do
landfills.

Product reuse is even more job-intensive than recycling. It is a
knowledge-based industry, with a premium placed on accurate sorting
and pricing, and good inventory management. More on jobs at reuse
operations

Job Creation:
Reuse and Recycling Vs. Disposal

Type of Operation Jobs per
10,000 TPY
Product Reuse
Computer Reuse  296
Textile Reclamation 85
Misc. Durables Reuse  62
Wooden Pallet Repair  28
Recycling-based Manufacturers 25
Paper Mills  18
Glass Product Manufacturers  26
Plastic Product Manufacturers 93
Conventional Materials Recovery Facilities 10
Composting 4
Landfill and Incineration 1

TPY = tons per year
Note: Figures are based on interviews with select facilities around
the country.
Source: Institute for Local Self-Reliance, Washington, DC, 1997.

Value is added to discarded materials as a result of cleaning,
sorting, and baling. Manufacturing with locally collected discards
adds even more value by producing finished goods. For example, old
newspapers may sell for $30 per ton, but new newsprint sells for $600
per ton. Each recycling step a community takes locally means more
jobs, more business expenditures on supplies and services, and more
money circulating in the local economy through spending and tax
payments.1

Recycling has had a major impact on job creation in local and state
economies:

In North Carolina, recycling industries employ over 8,700 people. The
job gains in recycling in this state far outnumber the jobs lost in
other industries. For every 100 recycling jobs created, just 10 jobs
were lost in the waste hauling and disposal industry, and 3 jobs were
lost in the timber harvesting industry.

A survey of ten northeastern states found that they employ 103,413
people in recycling.2

A 1992 survey in Washington found that this state had created 2,050
recycling-based jobs since 1989. 3

Massachusetts employs more than 9,000 people in more than 200
recycling enterprises. About half of these jobs are in the recycling-
based manufacturing sector. These businesses represent more than half
a billion dollars in value added to the state's economy.4

In California, meeting the state's 50% recycling goal is expected to
create about 45,000 recycling jobs, over 20,000 of which are slated to
be in the manufacturing sector.5

In Iowa, a 2001 study found that recycling-related end-use
manufacturing operations sustain over 23,000 jobs and generate nearly
$3.33 billion in total industrial output. The direct manufacturing
jobs in Iowa's recycling industry typically support high wages, on
average $47,700 per job.6 Click here for more information.
Regional studies of employment and the remanufacturing industry
indicate that recycling activities employ more than 2.5% of
manufacturing workers. Extrapolating these findings to the entire
nation, recycling and remanufacturing activities could account for
approximately 1 million manufacturing jobs and more than $100 billion
in revenue.7 Indeed, according to a recent study of recycling's
national economic impact, the U.S. Recycling Economic Information
Study, in the year 2000, the recycling and reuse industry sustained
approximately 56,000 operations that employed over 1.1 million people,
generated an annual payroll of nearly $37 billion, and grossed over
$236 billion in annual revenues. The study also documented the
"indirect" impact of recycling on support industries, such as
accounting firms and office supply companies. It found that the reuse
and recycling industry indirectly supports 1.4 million jobs that have
a payroll of $52 billion and produce $173 billion in receipts. 8

While employment in the U.S. grew only 2.1% annually between 1967 and
2000, the recycling industry saw 8.3% increase in employment, and
12.7% growth in annual sales. In 1967, the recycling industry
consisted of approximately 8,000 companies, employing 79,000 people,
with $4.6 billion in sales. See ILSR press release, Recycling Sector
Has a 30-year Record of Impressive Growth.

Endnotes

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Michael Shore, The Impact of Recycling on Jobs in North Carolina, for
the NC Recycling Business Assistance Center (Raleigh, North Carolina:
July 1995) p. 1.

Roy F. Weston, Value Added to Recyclable Materials in the Northeast,
C-096-94 (Brattleboro, Vermont: The Northeast Recycling Council, May
1994).

Deirdre Grace, "Recycling is Working," The ReMarketable News (Seattle:
Clean Washington Center, November 1992), p. 1; and Deirdre Grace
(Clean Washington Center, Seattle, Washington), personal
communication, December 1, 1992.

Robin F. Ingenthron, Value Added by Recycling Industries in
Massachusetts (Boston: Department of Environmental Protection, July
1992).

California Recycling Means Business California Jobs: A Library of
Facts (Sacramento, California: Californians Against Waste Foundation,
October 1994); and A Market Development Plan for California
(Sacramento, California: the California Integrated Waste Management
Board, 1993).

"Economic Impacts Study," press release, Recycle Iowa Office, Iowa
Department of Economic Development, October 8, 2001. Available on the
Web at: http://testing.recycleiowa.org/impact.html

Recycling... for the future: Consider the benefits, prepared by the
White House Task Force on Recycling (Washington, DC: Office of the
Environmental Executive, 1998).

U.S. Recycling Economic Information Study, prepared by RW Beck for the
National Recycling Coalition, July 2001, available on the Web at:
http://www.nrc-recycle.org/resources/rei/reihome.htm

"Recycling Sector Has a 30-Year Record of Impressive Growth," press
release, Institute for Local Self-Reliance, Washington, DC, January
11, 2002. Available on the Web at: http://www.ilsr.org/recycling/recyclingma.htm.

http://www.ilsr.org/recycling/recyclingmeansbusiness.html
Raving - 14 Nov 2008 17:23 GMT
> > Only in America do the "homeless" have computers and Web access, but somehow
> > cannot be motivated to find a job and spend all day on-line bitching about
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> resource that can contribute to local revenue, job creation, business
> expansion, and the local economic base.
Bye, bye. Have fun.

http://greenopolis.com/myopolis/blogs/hlund05/india-becoming-worlds-toxic-dump
Linda - 14 Nov 2008 18:58 GMT
> > > Only in America do the "homeless" have computers and Web access, but somehow
> > > cannot be motivated to find a job and spend all day on-line bitching about
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> http://greenopolis.com/myopolis/blogs/hlund05/india-becoming-worlds-t...

Ahem!

America was only a mecca for gangsters with duh-grees so long as
America insanely turned a blind eye to the gangsters with duh-grees
defrauding America of $1.2 trillion dollars annually or 10% of it's
GDP for health services that do not improve health.

Americans can no longer afford to turn a blind eye to Americans being
defrauded of $1.2 trillion dollars annually or 10% of it's GDP for
health services that do not improve health.

Hence,  the party is over for all the gangsters with duh-grees who
emigrated to America to join all the other gangsters with duh-grees
defrauding America of $1.2 trillion dollars a year or 10% of America's
GDP for health services which don't improve health.

It goes without saying,  that the party being over will occaision a
mass exodus of gangsters with duh-grees.

(medical tourism is all the rage; therefore,  the gangsters with duh-
grees can always set up shop in developing countries)

In any event,  kicking America's gangsters with duh-grees to the curb
will free up the loot which America requires to rebuild and maintain
it's infrastructure,  which,  in turn,  will stem the flow of waste
from America to the developing countries which have been utilizing
America's waste,  toxic or otherwise,  to build infrastructures which
America's current infrastructure pales in comparison to.
marcia - 14 Nov 2008 19:01 GMT
> > > > Only in America do the "homeless" have computers and Web access, but somehow
> > > > cannot be motivated to find a job and spend all day on-line bitching about
[quoted text clipped - 66 lines]
> America's waste,  toxic or otherwise,  to build infrastructures which
> America's current infrastructure pales in comparison to.

Don't count on it.
Linda - 14 Nov 2008 17:28 GMT
> > Only in America do the "homeless" have computers and Web access, but somehow
> > cannot be motivated to find a job and spend all day on-line bitching about
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> > - Show quoted text -

Oops!

I cut and pasted that article without proper attribution.

The title of the article is Recyclying Means Business.

http://www.ilsr.org/recycling/recyclingmeansbusiness.html

> Recycling is an economic development tool as well as an environmental
> tool. Reuse, recycling, and waste reduction offer direct development
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Saul Levy - 14 Nov 2008 18:19 GMT
It's a sign of the times, Hagar!  lmfjao!

Saul Levy

>Only in America do the "homeless" have computers and Web access, but somehow
>cannot be motivated to find a job and spend all day on-line bitching about
>how bad off they are.
Twittering One - 14 Nov 2008 19:13 GMT
Thousands to Sleep Under the Stars to Help Homeless
By Kirstin Mcguire

Miami Herald
November 14, 2008

Thousands of people will participate in a sleep-a-thon at Markham Park
Friday night to bring attention to homelessness.

Fifteen years later, his risky lifestyle led to a drunk driving
arrest, and his mother kicked him out of the house.

Feeling hopeless, Rivera, 29, turned to the Miami Rescue Mission. Now
sober for 32 months and counting, Rivera has graduated from the
program and volunteers regularly at the mission.

''I thought I was living before, but I wasn't,'' Rivera said. ``I
wasn't living until I came here.''

Friday night, Rivera and thousands of community members will
participate in an outdoor sleep-a-thon to bring awareness to
homelessness. Like those living on the streets, participants will
sleep in cardboard boxes and sleeping bags in Sunrise's Markham Park,
16001 W. State Road 84.

(more)
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking-news/story/770898.html

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More Holiday Homelesss Hype ...
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=gn&ned=us&q=homeless&btnG=Search+News

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Jeff▲Relf - 14 Nov 2008 20:48 GMT
You're homeless .. are you happy about that ?
Would you like a place to stay, in Manhattan, with a locker ?
If so, how bad do you want it ? how long before you get it ?
Twittering One - 14 Nov 2008 20:52 GMT
> You're homeless .. are you happy about that ?
> Would you like a place to stay, in Manhattan, with a locker ?
> If so, how bad do you want it ? how long before you get it ?

Leave me alone Jeff Relf, and stop messing with the titles of my
thread.
Jeff▲Relf - 14 Nov 2008 21:21 GMT
I'm not your lackey ― duh !
All I see here is me, talking to you,
using titles that reflect the drift.
Saul Levy - 14 Nov 2008 22:55 GMT
Guys mess with females all the time, Twit!  lmfjao!

Especially when they aren't quite there in the head!

Sometimes the girls like it!

Saul Levy

>On Nov 14, 3:48 pm, Jeff?Relf <Jeff_R...@Seattle.Invalid> wrote:
>> You're homeless .. are you happy about that ?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Leave me alone Jeff Relf, and stop messing with the titles of my
>thread.
Linda - 14 Nov 2008 21:41 GMT
> Thousands to Sleep Under the Stars to Help Homeless
> By Kirstin Mcguire
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Like those living on the streets, participants will
> sleep in cardboard boxes ...

Scam!

The displaced americans I'm acquainted with sleep under bridges,  or,
sleep in tunnels,  or,  sleep in abandoned buildings,  or,  sleep in
abandoned motor homes,  or,  sleep in abandoned buses,  or,  sleep in
abandoned shipping containers,  or,  sleep in "hooches" they build out
of pallets and plywood, etc.

The only displaced americans I've ever encountered sleeping in
cardboard boxes are the displaced americans who let themselves be
exploited by the predators making a mint running shelters,  who
endeavor to maximize the contributions they receive by virtue of their
having  the displaced americans they exploit camp outside their
shelters in cardboard boxes to ensure maximum visibility.

Furthermore,  the war / economy coming to a complete standstill must
have created a humongous surplus of tents,  as the cardboard boxes of
the displaced americans camped outside shelters preying on them have
recently been replaced by brand new tents---so they aren't even
sleeping in cardboard boxes anymore.
Raving - 14 Nov 2008 22:52 GMT
> > Thousands to Sleep Under the Stars to Help Homeless
> > By Kirstin Mcguire
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> abandoned shipping containers,  or,  sleep in "hooches" they build out
> of pallets and plywood, etc.

That's no scam. Here is your scam.

Nevada
291,190  or rather 48% of properties which are mortgaged have negative
equity.
The debt-to-value ratio for all mortgages pooled is 89%

     http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/11/10/business/20081111_MORTGAGES.html

To be honest, those numbers are hard to comprehend.
Linda - 15 Nov 2008 00:28 GMT
>Here is your scam.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>  To be honest, those numbers are hard to comprehend.

That's no scam.

Nevada being the last to boom,  makes Nevada first in line to go bust.

As a matter of fact,  I ran across a space at our local swap meet
which was advertizing a slew of homes being auctioned off a week or
two BEFORE the sub-prime lending crisis made the rest of America aware
of how dire things are.

Needless to say,  residents of Nevada are not holding vigils to raise
public awareness of the hardships endured by the displaced americans
living off the land.

Au contraire

Residents of Nevada seem quite eager to learn how the undomiciled
manage to survive.
Saul Levy - 14 Nov 2008 23:00 GMT
Why don't you post this on INSANITY ANONYMOUS instead of here?

Saul Levy

>Scam!
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>recently been replaced by brand new tents---so they aren't even
>sleeping in cardboard boxes anymore.
Mr Scooter - 20 Nov 2008 06:09 GMT
On , , Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:41:54 -0800 (PST), Re: ~ * Heather on
Homeless Holiday Hype * ~, Linda <Indomitable2@netzero.com>
wrote:

>Furthermore,  the war / economy coming to a complete standstill must
>have created a humongous surplus of tents,  as the cardboard boxes of
>the displaced americans camped outside shelters preying on them have
>recently been replaced by brand new tents---so they aren't even
>sleeping in cardboard boxes anymore.

The cardboard boxes opened out make good insulation to sleep on.
It's amazing how much cold risies from the ground if you aren't
properly insulated from it.
RF - 01 Dec 2008 21:16 GMT
>> Thousands to Sleep Under the Stars to Help Homeless
>> By Kirstin Mcguire
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> recently been replaced by brand new tents---so they aren't even
> sleeping in cardboard boxes anymore.

Linda's interference and attempted distraction
here suggests she is a devout supporter of the US
Military Industrial Complex.
Twittering One - 15 Nov 2008 20:28 GMT
Thanksgiving Meals to Be a little Thin for Homeless
By JULIET FLETCHER

November 15, 2008

VINELAND - As donations to food banks have dwindled, one local soup
kitchen faced a difficult time this week finding turkeys for its
Thanksgiving dinner.
Around lunchtime today, about 150 homeless and hungry adults and
children are expected to arrive at the sit-down event, held inside
First Presbyterian Church at Eighth Street and Landis Avenue, for a
turkey dinner with all the trimmings.

But members of the organizing group, Spirit and Truth Ministries, said
Friday that birds for this year's feast were hard to find, a sign that
the numerous organizations that supply such outreach have also been
feeling the economic pinch.

"We did have a problem with getting our turkeys," said kitchen head
Pam Carman, who has spent the past few weeks planning everything from
the menu - including stuffing, gravy, sweet potatoes and green beans -
down to handmade placemats designed by local Girl Scouts.

(more)
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/182/story/316461.html

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http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=gn&ned=us&q=homeless&btnG=Searc...

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Twittering One - 15 Nov 2008 21:34 GMT
~ * Special THANKS & appreciation to the group -- WHO HAS NO RELATION
TO NYC BELLEVUE HOSPITAL OR BELLEVUE CITY SHELTER -- who provides a
wonderful vegetarian lunch every Saturday, rain or shine, OUTSIDE on
the sidewalk, in front of Bellevue.

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More Holiday Homelesss Hype ...
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=gn&ned=us&q=homeless&btnG=Searc...

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G=EMC^2 Glazier - 15 Nov 2008 22:55 GMT
Twitty  I am sure if the street people donat a pint of blood to the Red
Cross they will get a free lunch. Blood money is the heart of the Red
Cross   TreBert
Double-A - 16 Nov 2008 21:06 GMT
> Twitty  I am sure if the street people donat a pint of blood to the Red
> Cross they will get a free lunch. Blood money is the heart of the Red
> Cross   TreBert

Skip the red cross free lunch.  Go to a commercial plasma center where
you can get paid up to $100 for your blood.  And yet so many people
just give away their blood not knowing it has so much value.  I
certainly now consider selling my blood as my ace in the hole when the
point comes where I can't get needed money any other way.

Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 17 Nov 2008 18:48 GMT
Double A I have never got paid for giving blood,but now thinking back I
should have been paid since Red Cross makes a good buck.  After giving
blood eat MSP and wash it down with 16oz of cranberry juice. TreBert
Double-A - 17 Nov 2008 20:52 GMT
> Double A I have never got paid for giving blood,but now thinking back I
> should have been paid since Red Cross makes a good buck.

You betcha!

The seem to make money pushing blood until doctors seem to have too
much of it.  Both my father and my wife reeived blood tranfusions
while in the hospital that they couldn't understand why they needed.
Concerns of getting aids from blood made them uneasy about it.  The
doctors make money off it too.  The plasma centers seem to think on
the other hand that draining pints of blood from you frequently
wouldn't negatively affect your health.  Doctors used to think blood
letting was beneficial.  I think it might help with high blood
pressure.

> After giving
> blood eat MSP and wash it down with 16oz of cranberry juice. TreBert

I thought that port wine was what the winos drank to build their blood
up for frequent sales of their blood.

Double-A
Twittering One - 17 Nov 2008 18:09 GMT
> Twitty  I am sure if the street people donat a pint of blood to the Red
> Cross they will get a free lunch. Blood money is the heart of the Red
> Cross   TreBert

Bert, normal blood-screening does not screen for Rodent Virus, which
can cause lethal complications for people with compromised immune
systems; moreover, the Red Cross is already in trouble for tainted
blood.
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 17 Nov 2008 19:04 GMT
Twitty  Red Cross killed so many people by giving them HIV that they
knew was in the blood. Mostly they killed children who needed the blood
clotting serum Tennis player Arthur Ash got AIDS that way.  It was the
biggest coverup in the history of medicine. It came out in the movie on
AIDS called THe Band Played On  Sounds unbelievable    TreBert
Double-A - 17 Nov 2008 20:55 GMT
> Twitty  Red Cross killed so many people by giving them HIV that they
> knew was in the blood. Mostly they killed children who needed the blood
> clotting serum Tennis player Arthur Ash got AIDS that way.  It was the
> biggest coverup in the history of medicine. It came out in the movie on
> AIDS called THe Band Played On  Sounds unbelievable    TreBert

Sounds terrible, Bert!  So how come the Red Cross still has their tax
free status?

Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 17 Nov 2008 21:55 GMT
Double A  Your answer is the Red Cross is part of the system that Obama
has to change.  Red Coss know how to pick its executives,and the
President of the Red Cross is usually the wife of a high official.  All
those the Red Cross killed their heirs never were able to sue.  Can not
sue Severn Trent(Mafia  Can not sue Waste Management. Can not sue
sheriff Bob Hansel  That is my reasoning USA has fallowed Florida lead
as being now fascist. Yes Charlie Crist has a balcony to wave to his
subjects from.  TreBert
Mr Scooter - 20 Nov 2008 06:13 GMT
On , , Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:28:57 -0800 (PST), Re: ~ * Heather on
Homeless Holiday Hype * ~, Twittering One <mournenwould@aol.com>
wrote:

>Thanksgiving Meals to Be a little Thin for Homeless
>By JULIET FLETCHER
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>the menu - including stuffing, gravy, sweet potatoes and green beans -
>down to handmade placemats designed by local Girl Scouts.

Every year the city near where I live has a community Christmas
Dinner. It is for people who have no prospect of anything special
for Christmas and also for people who are alone or have no
relatives or friends to spend the day with. It is done by
volunteers and also by donations of cash and things like sacks of
potatos etc. They always put on a good spread and have a good
time. They have to limit the volunteers as one year there was
almost as many volunteers as diners. I suspect a lot of the
volunteers were also alone and wanted to do something rather than
sit at home by themselves.
Twittering One - 16 Nov 2008 19:35 GMT
The Pains of Being Homeless ...

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_10997749
Twittering One - 17 Nov 2008 18:06 GMT
> The Pains of Being Homeless ...
>
> http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_10997749

Pain clouds cognition.
Twittering One - 17 Nov 2008 17:50 GMT
Homeless Won't Leave Pets to Get off Streets
By Jennifer Brooks

THE TENNESSEAN
November 17, 2008

The leaves are falling, the nights are cold and Carolyn Garton would
like nothing better than to move out of her makeshift shelter in Tent
City and into a nice, warm house.

But not without her Sunshine.

"She's my baby. God brought her to me," said Garton, pulling Sunshine
into a hug. The black and tan shepherd mix thumped her tail and
wriggled closer to lick her owner's chin.

Garton, who's known around Tent City as Mama Bear, has been homeless
for two years. Sunshine's been by her side for most of it.

(more)
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20081117/NEWS01/811170332/1001/RSS6001

~ * ~
More Holiday Homelesss Hype ...
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=gn&ned=us&q=homeless&btnG=Search+News

~ * ~
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 17 Nov 2008 18:56 GMT
Twitty On Huntington Beach this street person always walked around with
a large green parrot and kids fallowed HIM EVERY WHERE  He was on tv a
lot.  Pets can make you famous.         Rudy says high and knows you
might take care of her some day   Trebert
Double-A - 17 Nov 2008 21:00 GMT
> Twitty On Huntington Beach this street person always walked around with
> a large green parrot and kids fallowed HIM EVERY WHERE  He was on tv a
> lot.  Pets can make you famous.         Rudy says high and knows you
> might take care of her some day   Trebert

A pet might even get you your own TV show.  Take Grizzly Adams!

Double-A
Twittering One - 18 Nov 2008 15:22 GMT
"I Am One of the Homeless"
Faith communinity looks to take over men's shelter

Shelby Star
Monday, Nov 17 2008, 6:43 pm
Cassie Tarpley

SHELBY - If you were homeless and living in the woods, you'd probably
want something to help you done quickly.

Charles Moore does.

He's set up a tent in a thicket near a railroad track in Shelby. He
shares it with a few other men. He'd like some blankets and a non-
electric heater. Or a change in policy at The Beacon, the men's
homeless shelter.

A faith-based group talking about a new non-profit organization to
take over the shelter's operation and address related issues are
thinking much longer term.

It's been almost a year since the Mayor's Task Force on Homelessness
asked churches to step up and look at what they might do together to
help.

"I am one of the homeless," Moore said from the back row of the packed
Shelby City Council Chamber. "We have guys in the wood right now - one
with pneumonia - at camp sites with no blankets."

http://www.shelbystar.com/news/shelter_35072___article.html/homeless_shelby.html

~ * ~
More Holiday Homelesss Hype ...
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=gn&ned=us&nolr=1&q=homeless&btnG=Search

~ * ~
Jeff▲Relf - 19 Nov 2008 07:24 GMT
Sure, you can cut-and-paste, but can you write ? I think not.
Raving - 19 Nov 2008 13:11 GMT
> Sure, you can cut-and-paste, but can you write ? I think not.

Why would you expect her to be able to do so?
She hasn't got a 'mood disorder'.

Didn't you know?
Good, prolific writers have an annoying and inconvenient habit of
committing suicide.
johnbhurley@sbcglobal.net - 19 Nov 2008 13:36 GMT
> Sure, you can cut-and-paste, but can you write ? I think not.

Why whomever the source is cross posting and throwing stuff like this
in wreck running I have no idea.  It would be nice for that to stop
please.

Can they run and also write about running?  I think not.
Raving - 19 Nov 2008 14:03 GMT
On Nov 19, 8:36 am, johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> > Sure, you can cut-and-paste, but can you write ? I think not.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Can they run and also write about running?  I think not.

Can those with ADHD "Walk and chew gum at the same time?  I think so.

Can they run and chew gum at the same time?
 That would seem somewhat similar to driving whilst holding a cell
phone and talking. YMMV.
  Illegal where not permitted by law. Check with the authorities in
your local jurisdiction.

Cordially running on at the mouth, sincerely,

Raving
RF - 01 Dec 2008 21:18 GMT
> On Nov 19, 2:24 am, Jeff?Relf <Jeff_R...@Seattle.Invalid> wrote:
>> Sure, you can cut-and-paste, but can you write ? I think not.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Can they run and also write about running?  I think not.

Linda's interference and attempted distraction
here suggests she is a devout supporter of the US
Military Industrial Complex.
Twittering One - 19 Nov 2008 21:07 GMT
> Sure, you can cut-and-paste, but can you write ? I think not.

Not to professional standards, as I once did -- in a competitive NYC
work environment -- under normal circumstances, with appropriate ADHD
treatment.

But I can communicate.
Jeff▲Relf - 19 Nov 2008 23:11 GMT
What does it take to get a locker or an apartment in Manhattan ?
Can you see it happening someday ?
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 20 Nov 2008 18:00 GMT
Jeff In NY or LA they have empty warehouses,and I know how to make
prefab partition walls(make small rooms with door)  Just need johnes,and
big shower rooms.  Its gives central heat good roof privacy,and very
easy cheap construction.Not as good as jail,but a lot more privacy,and
less depressing   TreBert
Jeff▲Relf - 20 Nov 2008 21:03 GMT
I doubt we could help Twittering One.
Guessing, I'd say she gets Social Security
and she already has a secure place to keep her stuff.

Although she talks about her battles with the police and the hospital,
she says nothing about needing ( or wanting ) a locker ( or a room ).
Saul Levy - 20 Nov 2008 22:44 GMT
Watch it, Jeff, or they'll come GET YOUR STUFF!  lmfjao!

Whoever THEY are.

Saul Levy

On 20 Nov 2008 21:03:41 GMT, Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@Seattle.Invalid>
wrote:

>I doubt we could help Twittering One.
>Guessing, I'd say she gets Social Security
>and she already has a secure place to keep her stuff.
>
>Although she talks about her battles with the police and the hospital,
>she says nothing about needing ( or wanting ) a locker ( or a room ).
Double-A - 20 Nov 2008 21:05 GMT
> Jeff In NY or LA they have empty warehouses,and I know how to make
> prefab partition walls(make small rooms with door)  Just need johnes,and
> big shower rooms.  Its gives central heat good roof privacy,and very
> easy cheap construction.Not as good as jail,but a lot more privacy,and
> less depressing   TreBert

Housing the homeless could be the business opportunity of the future!
But who will fund it?  Not local government.  Just readin in today's
paper how Oregon government is having to cut almost a billion buicks
from its budget, mostly because the income taxes are not coming in
aanymore, as so many have joined the unemployment lines and businesses
have gone belly up.  If Pres. Obama decides to bailout the poor (along
with the fat cats), then such ideas as yours will be needed.

Double-A
Jeff▲Relf - 20 Nov 2008 21:19 GMT
Look how it's going.  Trillions for badly-run businesses that are
“ Too Large to Fail ” ― the homeless are off the radar.
But that's the idea, isn't it ? to be off the radar.
If you wanted to be noticed, you'd be a lobbiest for G.M.
Saul Levy - 20 Nov 2008 22:49 GMT
The auto companies haven't been doing so well at the trough, Jeff.

This may change in time, but it shouldn't!

NO BAILOUTS FOR ANYONE!

Saul Levy

On 20 Nov 2008 21:19:43 GMT, Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@Seattle.Invalid>
wrote:

>Look how it's going.  Trillions for badly-run businesses that are
>“ Too Large to Fail ” ? the homeless are off the radar.
>But that's the idea, isn't it ? to be off the radar.
>If you wanted to be noticed, you'd be a lobbiest for G.M.
Raving - 22 Nov 2008 18:29 GMT
> The auto companies haven't been doing so well at the trough, Jeff.
>
> This may change in time, but it shouldn't!
>
> NO BAILOUTS FOR ANYONE!
... aside from CEOs of AIG, American Express, Bank of America,
Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, etc.

> Saul Levy
Saul Levy - 22 Nov 2008 19:50 GMT
I don't run things, Raving, and they won't listen to me.

Saul Levy

>> The auto companies haven't been doing so well at the trough, Jeff.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>> Saul Levy
Raving - 24 Nov 2008 13:15 GMT
Lol.

Citigroup's, Uncle Sam rides in for the rescue.  Christmas bonuses all
round, eh.

"The complex plan calls for the government to back about $306 billion
in loans and securities and directly invest about $20 billion in the
company."

 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/24/business/24citibank.html

> I don't run things, Raving, and they won't listen to me.
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> >> Saul Levy
Double-A - 24 Nov 2008 21:37 GMT
> Lol.
>
> Citigroup's, Uncle Sam rides in for the rescue.  Christmas bonuses all
> round, eh.

And maybe they can buy another bank!

> "The complex plan calls for the government to back about $306 billion
> in loans and securities and directly invest about $20 billion in the
> company."
>
>  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/24/business/24citibank.html

Thank heavens the executive bonuses are safe for another Christmas!
Yes Virginia, there is an Uncle Santa!

Double-A

> > I don't run things, Raving, and they won't listen to me.
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 24 Nov 2008 22:03 GMT
Double A  Like I posted 4 years ago things were not good for its
citizens in Florida. It was going fascist. Now the people will belive me
when I say Washington is fascist. Only the people that need money the
most get the one finger solute.(poor families) The rich with there 7
homes(the fat cats) will have a great Christmas.    The poor and middle
class will pay   TreBert
BradGuth - 24 Nov 2008 23:04 GMT
> Double A  Like I posted 4 years ago things were not good for its
> citizens in Florida. It was going fascist. Now the people will belive me
> when I say Washington is fascist. Only the people that need money the
> most get the one finger solute.(poor families) The rich with there 7
> homes(the fat cats) will have a great Christmas.    The poor and middle
> class will pay   TreBert

Do you still believe no faith-based cabal or cartel is ever in charge?

~ BG
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 21 Nov 2008 18:09 GMT
Double A The room partitions could be put in place by men that will be
living in them. More and more warehouses are sitting empty. Its another
good reason for M&M to get that $10,000,000 and do good with it. GM has
about a million cars sitting on lots. Japanese cars sitting on lots. How
can GM afford to build more new cars when this condition is reality?
Those GM executives will grab the bucks get on their private jets and
head for their Swiss villas.        I would never do that. Reality is
the Godfather(head of our fascist government) has a bullet for me. No
small business could get a dime from this government.  3am chicken calls
are picking up as I let more and more people know about Severn Trent,and
the way their money has corrupted Osceola officials and use sheriff Bob
Hansel as prime example         TreBert
Double-A - 21 Nov 2008 21:19 GMT
> Double A The room partitions could be put in place by men that will be
> living in them. More and more warehouses are sitting empty.

Cubicles?

> Its another
> good reason for M&M to get that $10,000,000 and do good with it. GM has
> about a million cars sitting on lots. Japanese cars sitting on lots. How
> can GM afford to build more new cars when this condition is reality?

They can't.  They should close down for the holidays, and ponder their
prospects for the future in January.  I think they will be losing less
money with their plants closed.  The workers can draw their
unemployment benefits.

> Those GM executives will grab the bucks get on their private jets and
> head for their Swiss villas.

Just like they jumped in those private jets to go to Washington to ask
for handouts?

> I would never do that. Reality is
> the Godfather(head of our fascist government) has a bullet for me. No
> small business could get a dime from this government.  3am chicken calls
> are picking up as I let more and more people know about Severn Trent,and
> the way their money has corrupted Osceola officials and use sheriff Bob
> Hansel as prime example         TreBert

Why don't you unplug your phone at night?  I did.  Nothing could be
more important than my sleep!

Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 21 Nov 2008 21:42 GMT
Doublke A  From time to time my phone is unpluged,but I worry my kids
might call   TreBert
Saul Levy - 21 Nov 2008 13:34 GMT
Then you add in the cost of NYC overhead and taxes and the cost rises
to $1000s per unit, BEERTbrain!  lmfjao!

Has to be union made too.

Saul Levy

>Jeff In NY or LA they have empty warehouses,and I know how to make
>prefab partition walls(make small rooms with door)  Just need johnes,and
>big shower rooms.  Its gives central heat good roof privacy,and very
>easy cheap construction.Not as good as jail,but a lot more privacy,and
>less depressing   TreBert
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 21 Nov 2008 18:28 GMT
Cactus Saul Take only one hour to make each private room.Just 25 self
taping screws needed Each wall section just slides into an H mullion
Door is prehung.  12x10 room takes on average 5 panels. I use to
manufacture such material in LA  If slab was there I could install walls
and panelled insulated roof in 3 hours.Complete insulaed room  Even
putting in corner fire place,and wall to wall carpet.  If I could have
my construction knowledge put to good use(been in construction all my
life) I could save children.  Reality is children are hurt the hardest
in times of a great depression. I have told you I went through it,but
made off like it was fun.  I would never reveal how bad a bad day was
for me.  TreBert
Saul Levy - 22 Nov 2008 16:08 GMT
You're still ignoring the bureaucracy, BEERTbrain!  lmfjao!

They will CHARGE PLENTY to build ANYTHING!

Saul Levy

>Cactus Saul Take only one hour to make each private room.Just 25 self
>taping screws needed Each wall section just slides into an H mullion
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>made off like it was fun.  I would never reveal how bad a bad day was
>for me.  TreBert
Double-A - 19 Nov 2008 21:28 GMT
> Sure, you can cut-and-paste, but can you write ? I think not.

She's written more on Usenet alone than you could read in a month!

Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 25 Nov 2008 22:38 GMT
Jeff  Why are people trying to bring me down. Writing I am slopy at.
Spelling I am bad at. Know the meaning of most words(especially science
words.  My brain is geared for hypothetical thinking.  I think that is
why most like my posts??? (find them some what interesting)  I hope
TreBert
Jeff▲Relf - 25 Nov 2008 23:18 GMT
Few ( very few ) read my posts, even fewer ( if any ) enjoy them.
For most of us, that's the way it is here on Usenet.
Typically, free advice is worth  Less  than what you paid for it.

We enjoy your posts because you speak from the heart.
Unlike you, Twittering One ( and Sam Wormley ) mostly quote stuff,
Who needs that ? I don't.

How do Wormley or Twitty  Really  feel ? we'll never know.

Saul Levy probably likes himself less than he likes you,
so don't feel bad.

BradGuth bores me, he's too spacy, flighty, ungrounded.
Painius confuses me a lot, and he quotes too much.
When it comes to entropy, OldCoot is either ignorant or in denial.

Hagar is so rude it's just funny.

I enjoy Double-A's comments, but what is he hiding ?
What's his real name ?  Why doesn't he apply for low-income housing ?

T.J. Frazir ( in Sci.Physics ) is ultra interesting ( at times ),
but he doesn't come around much anymore.

Sci.Physics' Michael Moroney is good ( usually ),
but he too isn't around much, and he hates my comments ( I'm plonked ).
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 25 Nov 2008 23:53 GMT
Jeff TJ (wild coyote) is like an alien. Hard to figure out over 10 years
where his posts are going. He use to email me about 6 years ago. Send me
pictures inside of these big cargo ships. Ask me if I needed money. Made
off and still does he makes billions. He always tickled me.  I think he
has to be studied.   TreBert
Jeff▲Relf - 26 Nov 2008 04:12 GMT
Wild Coyote has come close to letting me rent
one of his mansions ( in Ohio ) for 100 bucks a month.

But he thinks I'd take pictures of him ( for money ? )
and hand out his phone number.

What I want is cheaper housing in Seattle, not Ohio.
As it is, I'm doing fine ― so far.
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 26 Nov 2008 14:07 GMT
Jeff  I you need a place to crash in central Florida I have extra rooms.
Being a whiz kid you know where I live. Its easy I am in the phone book.
AA and Twitty I have made the same offer.My son Ken might drive down for
Christmas(I hope)   I find it living alone difficult. Glad I have Rudy.
TreBert  Ps the other day I had to refuse renting my house again. They
had no credit,but both worked for the Wal Mart just 3 miles from me,and
its manager gave them a good send off. Still I am not going to fly back
and have them evicted.
Jeff▲Relf - 27 Nov 2008 01:46 GMT
Thanks for the offer.
If I had a way to get to your house, I might visit you;
but you should sell your house, I think, no matter the price.

My brother Steve's house is still worth 500 grand, .5 mega dollars.
Hope over his fence and you're on MicroSoft's campus, in the woods.
( My sister, who lives nearby, has a net worth of one millions dollars )

Steve is going to dive me to my mom's house, 50 miles south of here.
Driving with him is scary ― to say the least ― he gets ultra angry,
yelling and thrashing, pounding the stearing wheel, etc.

I start to wonder: “ Is this it ? are we going to die here and now ? ”.
Last time, he wouldn't share his water with me;
so, this time, I'll come prepared with my own bottle.

He's dead certain ( thanks to Mormon prophets, he says )
that there'll be nothing but total anarchy, come 2012.
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 27 Nov 2008 13:51 GMT
Jeff  As long as your not driving on a road like Florida I 4 you will be
safe. Do not smoke when in his car. I always bring my own beer. Last
advice let him do all the talking,and just butter him up  Happy
Thanksgiving   TreBert
Jeff▲Relf - 28 Nov 2008 04:12 GMT
It's 40 miles to my mom's house and back.
I took a motion-sickness pill that lasts all day;
so I slept most of time, while my family argued  Loudly .

I over-eat every day, but even more so today, Thanksgiving.
Alt.Astronomy is sedate, from top to bottom, compared to my family.

My brother Greg thinks absolutely every male in the world,
― except Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh ― is “ gay ”.
By “ gay ” he means effeminate, not “ boys sucking boys ”.

His blog** riffs on random connections,
matching numbers, names, dates, etc.
( **: “ GSR-TWN.BlogSpot.COM ”.
 BlogSpot.COM is: Copyright © 1999 – 2008 Google ).
Saul Levy - 29 Nov 2008 00:52 GMT
Keep eating like that and your stomach and intestines will make YOU
PAY FOR IT!

Acid reflux anyone?

Saul Levy

On 28 Nov 2008 04:12:23 GMT, Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@Seattle.Invalid>
wrote:

>It's 40 miles to my mom's house and back.
>I took a motion-sickness pill that lasts all day;
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>? except Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh ? is “ gay ”.
>By “ gay ” he means effeminate, not “ boys sucking boys ”.
Saul Levy - 27 Nov 2008 18:03 GMT
So brother Steve is a religious NUTJOB, Jeff!  lmfjao!

How come your relatives have lots of money, but YOU DON'T?

About 2012:  NOTHING WILL HAPPEN!

Saul Levy

On 27 Nov 2008 01:46:06 GMT, Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@Seattle.Invalid>
wrote:

>Thanks for the offer.
>If I had a way to get to your house, I might visit you;
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>He's dead certain ( thanks to Mormon prophets, he says )
>that there'll be nothing but total anarchy, come 2012.
Jeff▲Relf - 28 Nov 2008 03:38 GMT
My dad, who died of colon cancer at age 80, was ultra Mormon.
My mom ( 82 years old ) is very Mormon, as is my lone sister.

Of my 4 brothers, one is totally bonkers ( mentally ),
and the other 3 are very Mormon.
My ex-wife and “ my ” 2 kids ( from her ) are very Mormon.

Thanks to my brother Pete ( who's close to my ex ),
I know my daughter has a one year old baby ― I'm a “ grandfather ”.

Looking from the outside in, I feel:
 Mormonism is a drug, an upper, like meth.
 
Myself, I'm too sedate ( and rational ) for that.
Saul Levy - 29 Nov 2008 00:51 GMT
Thanks for explaining why YOU'RE SO WEIRD, Jeff!  lmfjao!

The first Mormon I ran into was Orson Scott Card.  Didn't like any of
his writing.

Saul Levy

On 28 Nov 2008 03:38:14 GMT, Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@Seattle.Invalid>
wrote:

>My dad, who died of colon cancer at age 80, was ultra Mormon.
>My mom ( 82 years old ) is very Mormon, as is my lone sister.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>  
>Myself, I'm too sedate ( and rational ) for that.
Saul Levy - 26 Nov 2008 05:36 GMT
I like myself just fine, Jeff!  lmfjao!

You forgot woofie!

Saul Levy

On 25 Nov 2008 23:18:35 GMT, Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@Seattle.Invalid>
wrote:

>Few ( very few ) read my posts, even fewer ( if any ) enjoy them.
>For most of us, that's the way it is here on Usenet.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>Sci.Physics' Michael Moroney is good ( usually ),
>but he too isn't around much, and he hates my comments ( I'm plonked ).
Twittering One - 19 Nov 2008 21:10 GMT
Cold Prompts N.Y.C. Homeless Outreach

by The Associated Press
Tuesday November 18, 2008

NEW YORK -- Emergency outreach teams headed to the streets today amid
concerns that a blast of wintry weather could put homeless people in
peril.

"Extreme cold weather can lead to deaths. We need to make sure that
the neediest New Yorkers are protected in severe weather," said
Department of Homeless Services Commissioner Robert Hess.

Last year, four unsheltered homeless people died in the city during
cold weather.

Lows of around 25 degrees were forecast from tonight night to
Wednesday. The city's Code Blue Cold Weather Emergency Procedure takes
effect at 32 degrees.

Starting today, the agency had about three dozen outreach teams in
vans, ready to respond around the clock to reports of homeless people
outdoors or in the subways. Police and Department of Parks teams also
perform homeless outreach.

They are trained to look for signs of distress including frostbite or
hypothermia. Symptoms also include slurred speech, shallow breathing,
skin discoloration, blisters and waxy-feeling skin.

Officials asked New Yorkers to call the 311 city hotline when they see
homeless people. They may request a callback if they'd like to know
what action was taken.

Homeless people can be coaxed indoors, but not forced unless their
life is in danger. In that case, ambulances or police take them to a
hospital or other emergency facility.

A Code Blue alert also is issued when snow is deeper than 6 inches,
with temperatures below 15 degrees; when the wind chill is below zero
for 48 hours; or when there are sustained winds of more than 4 mph
during an ice storm, freezing rain or coastal flooding.

The city has 8,000 beds reserved -- in shelters, drop-in centers,
apartments and other buildings including the YMCA or churches. Food
also is provided.

The last survey taken, in January, counted about 3,300 unsheltered
homeless New Yorkers -- down by 25 percent over the past two years,
Hess said. Since September, about 900 have been housed, the
commissioner said.

Hess said there are no figures on whether the homeless population has
increased amid the economic downturn.

http://www.nj.com/helpinghands/index.ssf/2008/11/cold_prompts_nyc_homeless_outr.html

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Twittering One - 19 Nov 2008 21:49 GMT
> They are trained to look for signs of distress including frostbite or
> hypothermia. Symptoms also include slurred speech, shallow breathing,
> skin discoloration, blisters and waxy-feeling skin.

Speaking from experience, during a 14-degree night last year, the
SLURRED SPEECH is a good self-monitoring sign.

It's like they say about heat stroke: BY THE TIME YOU ARE IN DANGER,
IT IS TOO LATE, because your reflexes to move and think clearly are
already compromised.
Twittering One - 20 Nov 2008 15:37 GMT
In Rural Areas, Homeless Often Remain Hidden
November 20, 2008

By Adam Behsudi
News-Post Staff

Counting the homeless is not without its challenges.
Every year, the Frederick Community Action Agency attempts to tabulate
those without homes.

Finding regulars to the agency's soup kitchen, food bank and health
clinic is the easy part, according to executive director Mike
Spurrier.

But the challenge of finding the homeless in rural Frederick County
can only be met through the cooperation of governments, agencies and
residents.

In past years, Spurrier said his staff has located people living in
substandard housing without indoor plumbing. One person was found
sleeping in a garage and another had made a home in a chicken coop.

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http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?StoryID=82945

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Double-A - 20 Nov 2008 20:58 GMT
> In Rural Areas, Homeless Often Remain Hidden
> November 20, 2008
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> substandard housing without indoor plumbing. One person was found
> sleeping in a garage and another had made a home in a chicken coop.

Sounds like upscale accomodations compared to mine.  What I wouldn't
give for a nice warm coop!  (You know, when the chickens are in there
they make it warmer!)

> (more)http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?StoryID=82945
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I am noticing more and more bewhiskered types with backpacks and bags
hanging around this posh suburban mall.  I think it is a sign of the
times.

Double-A
Saul Levy - 21 Nov 2008 13:55 GMT
And VERY stinky, DA!  lmfjao!

Saul Levy

>Sounds like upscale accomodations compared to mine.  What I wouldn't
>give for a nice warm coop!  (You know, when the chickens are in there
>they make it warmer!)
>
>Double-A
Twittering One - 21 Nov 2008 20:51 GMT
Boston Health Care Offers Suggestions
For Helping the Homeless

A List of Tips ...

http://www.wickedlocal.com/west-roxbury/news/lifestyle/health/x1720659035/Boston
-Health-Care-offers-suggestions-for-helping-the-homeless


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Twittering One - 21 Nov 2008 21:01 GMT
Real COFFEE ~ !

(it's the only thing you can't get from most Soup Kitchens ...

Although from Monday through Friday, in winter, The Church of the Holy
Apostles, New York City, offers hot tea and coffee, alternating days,
along with their lunch meal.

http://www.holyapostlesnyc.org/haskhome.htm

But I need coffee for breakfast, just to make sure I make it across
town to eat lunch.
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 21 Nov 2008 21:38 GMT
Twitty Can the homeless ride the subways?  Cold nights I road the Boston
subways,and they were clean and very warm, Half of their rout was above
ground(elevated) I was not in the dark,and the wicker seat was rather
comfortable.  TreBert
Double-A - 21 Nov 2008 21:51 GMT
> Real COFFEE ~ !
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> But I need coffee for breakfast, just to make sure I make it across
> town to eat lunch.

If any of you are feeling in the holiday spirit, you might help
Twittering out with that morning cup of coffee.  See:

https://www.dunkindonuts.com/shoponline/Product.aspx?CategoryId=GIFT&GroupId=TRSVC

Double-A
Double-A - 21 Nov 2008 21:26 GMT
> Boston Health Care Offers Suggestions
> For Helping the Homeless
>
> A List of Tips ...
>
> http://www.wickedlocal.com/west-roxbury/news/lifestyle/health/x172065...

It's hard to know if my speach is slurred when my teeth are chattering
so loudly!

Double-A

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G=EMC^2 Glazier - 21 Nov 2008 21:46 GMT
Double A Get to Mt Baldy. Make money have fun,and be comfortable   You
living in Oregon is a death wish. My living in Florida is my death wish.
I am heading for Huntington Beach before the Gofsther gives sheriff Bob
Hansel the thumbs down   TreBert
Twittering One - 22 Nov 2008 17:31 GMT
Churches Forced to Boot Homeless
KATHLEEN LUCADAMO

DAILY NEWS CITY HALL BUREAU
November 22nd 2008, 1:23 AM

As temperatures fall and the economy crashes, 22 city churches have
been told to stop providing beds for the homeless, advocates for the
poor charged Friday.

"We will see hundreds of people who will not have a place to sleep.
It's antithetical to what the mayor talks about," said Arnold Cohen,
president of the Partnership for the Homeless, a nonprofit that serves
as the middleman between the city and faith-based shelters.

The city recently began enforcing an often-overlooked rule that
requires faith-based shelters to open five days a week, said Cohen who
told a score of churches last month they no longer qualify to house
the homeless.

The city Department of Homeless Services said these shelters - many
that have been open three nights a week for decades - should never
have been allowed to operate under terms of a contract with the
Partnership.

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