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Space Forum / Astronomy / August 2008Global Rethink!
Even the Farmer's Almanac is predicting that next winter will be a cold one! That's Global Warming for ya! Such BULLSHIT! I first reported that we have been in a cooling period for the past 8-10 years. More and more evidence is accumulating that this is correct. The Farmer's Almanac isn't always correct, but they probably beat BEERTbrain's predictions. Who ya gonna believe? The Almanac or BEERTbrain? Saul Levy Cactus Saul I do better than my local meteorologist. He likes to predict using percentages,like 50% yes and 50% no. I never fudge I call it like my brain sees it. I like being a weather man. Thank you nightbat bert Snowfall in Tucson last January, BEERTbrain? Was that a 100% prediction? You were right once and wrong once. Does that average at 50%? Neither time did I make any snowballs! You get 0% for that one. Saul Levy >Cactus Saul I do better than my local meteorologist. He likes to >predict using percentages,like 50% yes and 50% no. I never fudge I >call it like my brain sees it. I like being a weather man. Thank you >nightbat bert Cactus Saul Snow ball fights are great fun. As I remember my snow prediction for Arizona the day was on the money. When I lived in Arizona for over a year it had little rain and no chance of snow. Times have charged and heavy air can blow your way from time to time. Still feel bad the3 heavy air knocked down your power poles Go figure bert > Cactus Saul Snow ball fights are great fun. As I remember my snow > prediction for Arizona the day was on the money. When I lived in Arizona > for over a year it had little rain and no chance of snow. Times have > charged and heavy air can blow your way from time to time. Still feel > bad the3 heavy air knocked down your power poles Go figure bert Snow is a direct result of global warming, as are droughts. Earth will never again see an ice-age, not even 10% of an ice-age. Our Selene/moon contributes 2e20 N worth of tidal force, and that's per each and every second. Go figure how that much tidal flex energy which distorts the crust of Earth by 55 cm doesn't create Earth geophysical heat, not to mention the secondary/recoil worth of the Selene/moon IR. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth I've always thought that statement was SO STUPID as to DEFY any INTELLIGENCE, BradBoi! lmfjao! How about explaining to us how GW causes snow? You believe it, so explain it! Saul Levy >Snow is a direct result of global warming, as are droughts. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Your prediction for snow this year was DEAD WRONG, BEERTbrain! lmao! Never forget that! Snow falls here every few years. This is NOT a new thing. Nothing has changed. Saul Levy >Cactus Saul Snow ball fights are great fun. As I remember my snow >prediction for Arizona the day was on the money. When I lived in Arizona >for over a year it had little rain and no chance of snow. Times have >charged and heavy air can blow your way from time to time. Still feel >bad the3 heavy air knocked down your power poles Go figure bert Cactus saul You have so little wit you in reality think inside a tiny match box. Bert > Cactus saul You have so little wit you in reality think inside a tiny > match box. Bert The Zionist/Nazi types (aka Republican Mafia) are w/o wit, but then you keep giving them live ammunition by way of replying to their flack. Go figure ~ BG Aren't you a FLACK for all the conspiracy theories you concoct, BradBoi? lmfjao! Your Borg aliens on Venus must love you! Saul Levy >> Cactus saul You have so little wit you in reality think inside a tiny >> match box. Bert [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > ~ BG And what exactly do you do, BEERTbrain? lmao! Careful now! Saul Levy >Cactus saul You have so little wit you in reality think inside a tiny >match box. Bert > Even the Farmer's Almanac is predicting that next winter will be a > cold one! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Saul Levy Isn't that why it's called a "trend", Saul? A Global Warming "Trend"? Over short periods it's expected that there will be many periods of cooling during the overall warming trend. And since the Pleistocene has had altogether about three major cooling and then warming trends, it's very possible that the present trend is warming. Thing is, in a billion years it won't matter. Because the Sun is slowly and steadily getting brighter and brighter, the "overall - overall" trend is definitely a warming trend. The Sun will get so bright in one billion years or so, that the water will all evaporate, and life is not expected to survive. happy days and... starry starry nights!  SignatureIndelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth P.S.: Thank *YOU* for reading! P.P.S.: http://painellsworth.net Painius Now your post gives me something to worry about. I liked your post on Andromeda missing us. Sun getting warmer gives me fears,and when I fear I sweat,and if Progress Energy turns my power of today I will only have my sweat to cool me off. Hmmm OK I changed my thinking Painius give me some thing to sweat over Thanks in advance bert > > Even the Farmer's Almanac is predicting that next winter will be a > > cold one! [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > happy days and... > starry starry nights! Since we know the job has to be done, perhaps we need to start developing the thrusters now to slowly move the Earth farther from the Sun over the next billion years so that things remain comfortable.. It will take a lot of thrusting, but fortunately we have lots of time to do it. Double-A I think there's plenty of time left, DA! lmao! Saul Levy >> "Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> wrote in message... >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> > Saul Levy >Since we know the job has to be done, perhaps we need to start >developing the thrusters now to slowly move the Earth farther from the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Double-A > I think there's plenty of time left, DA! lmao! > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > >Double-A But my experience is that when I keep putting things off, suddenly it's too late! Double-A > > "Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> wrote in message... > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Double-A All we'll need to do is to relocate our Selene/moon from it's relatively nearby orbit, out to station-keeping within Earth L1. I kid you not. It'll take some effort and interactive applications of tethered CM(counter mass) elements for keeping our Selene/moon situated within the halo orbit of Earth L1, but it's technically doable. That'll buy us 3+% of shade and perhaps an extra billion years before becoming toast, as well as giving our badly over- populated Earth those essential 100 teraWatts of clean and renewable energy. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth That won't happen for a long time, BradBoi! lmfjao! Saul Levy >All we'll need to do is to relocate our Selene/moon from it's >relatively nearby orbit, out to station-keeping within Earth L1. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Life should move elsewhere then, Paine! lmao! In about, oh say, 0.99999999e9 years! lmao! That should be soon enough! Saul Levy >> Even the Farmer's Almanac is predicting that next winter will be a >> cold one! [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >billion years or so, that the water will all evaporate, >and life is not expected to survive. > I first reported that we have been in a cooling period for the past > 8-10 years. More and more evidence is accumulating that this is > correct. Cite, please? SignatureTimberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com People who can't spell get kicked out of Hogwarts. It's given in old messages, woofie. I'll look for it when I have more time. Saul Levy >> I first reported that we have been in a cooling period for the past >> 8-10 years. More and more evidence is accumulating that this is >> correct. > >Cite, please? Cactus saul Global warming is putting more and more water in our atmosphere. Reality is you do not have the wit to get out of the rain. Sad but true Bert > Cactus saul Global warming is putting more and more water in our > atmosphere. Reality is you do not have the wit to get out of the rain. > Sad but true Bert In cool places that extra 50 teratonnes of atmospheric water from AGW and NGW has to fall as snow. Unfortunately, that snow doesn't stick around, much less build glaciers. Go figure. All we'll need to accomplish is to relocate our Selene/moon from it's relatively nearby orbit, out to station-keeping within Earth L1. I kid you not. It'll take some effort and interactive applications of tethered CM(counter mass) elements for keeping our Selene/moon situated within the halo orbit of Earth L1, but it's technically doable. That'll buy us 3+% of shade and perhaps an extra billion years before becoming toast, as well as giving our badly over- populated Earth those essential 100 teraWatts of clean and renewable energy. We'll still have 50% tides. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth We've been getting rain on and off most of today, BEERTbrain! lmao! Methinks its more what's left of Julio than anything from the BULLSHIT of Global Warming! You get a 0% for that one. Saul Levy >Cactus saul Global warming is putting more and more water in our >atmosphere. Reality is you do not have the wit to get out of the rain. >Sad but true Bert O.K., woofie, here's some links from searches on "global cooling last 8 years": http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Global+Cooling/ar ticle10866.htm And here's the main one I cited before: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/04/09/do0907.xml &sSheet=/news/2006/04/09/ixworld.html Even Wiki has a page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Cooling Note that there are some comflicting statements. Big surprise, huh? Other links from just the first page: http://icecap.us/images/uploads/TheCooling.pdf and even: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/01/the-global-cooling-myth/ Read as much or little of this as you want. You couldn't have done this search yourself? I got 12,000,000 hits! Saul Levy >Even the Farmer's Almanac is predicting that next winter will be a >cold one! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Saul Levy > O.K., woofie, here's some links from searches on "global cooling last > 8 years": > > http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Global+Cooling/ar ticle10866.htm This article tries to say that one year can reverse a trend of twenty years. If global cooling were a stock, would you invest in it on those "stock prices"? > And here's the main one I cited before: > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/04/09/do0907.xml &sSheet=/news/2006/04/09/ixworld.html An editorial is not a scientific reference. > Even Wiki has a page: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Cooling The first paragraph refutes your claim. > Note that there are some comflicting statements. Big surprise, huh? > > Other links from just the first page: > > http://icecap.us/images/uploads/TheCooling.pdf The conclusion contradicts your claim. > and even: > > http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/01/the-global-cooling-myth/ The entire article refutes your claim. It calls global cooling a myth! > Read as much or little of this as you want. You couldn't have done > this search yourself? I got 12,000,000 hits! My roommate is a well-traveled skydiver. He has gone on skydiving trips to both poles. North pole skydiving trips are becoming more and more rare, for it is more and more difficult to find areas of surface ice large enough for a safe landing zone. SignatureTimberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com People who can't spell get kicked out of Hogwarts. All this says more of which religion of global warming/cooling you adhere to, woofie! If the ice is melting, where is the sea level rise expected from that? There isn't any. Boaters have seen NO increase at all. Some glaciers are shrinking, but others are growing. The effects so far are small. Only more time will tell what is going on. CoNflicting statements? Saul Levy >> O.K., woofie, here's some links from searches on "global cooling last >> 8 years": [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >rare, for it is more and more difficult to find areas of surface ice >large enough for a safe landing zone. Cactus saul Is not Artic ice 90% immersed in the water.My theory of heavy air means more water in the atmosphere,and all this means the oceans need not rise very much. Saul it does not disprove the Earth is not getting warmer. If you were a penguin you would know better,but alias you only have a brain of a tick Bert No ocean rise, BEERTbrain? lmao! You have to be kidding that this is because the atmosphere would have to be SATURATED with water vapor! Obviously, it hasn't changed much! I'm not talking a LITTLE added water vapor. It would have to be a lot more than that. You'll have to do a better job! I see some from the remains of Julio, but no general increase in water vapor. The summer here has been a bit dry which shows that your theory isn't happening. Saul Levy >Cactus saul Is not Artic ice 90% immersed in the water.My theory of >heavy air means more water in the atmosphere,and all this means the >oceans need not rise very much. Saul it does not disprove the Earth is >not getting warmer. If you were a penguin you would know better,but >alias you only have a brain of a tick Bert As of yesterday Tucson is BEHIND by 1.12 inches of rain for this year. Does that sound unusual? Nope. It isn't. We are in a major drought here. The rainfall was ahead a bit early in the summer, but now we've been behind for a month or more. Had a beautiful display of lightning last night (from Julio and other sources). It really was spectacular! Best I've seen so far this year. Got some rain too, but not the major part of these storms. Even I can see that BEERTbrain's increase in water vapor and heavy air isn't happening here! Yet he still claims that it is. Lots of hurricanes lately? Sure. But that's normal, it's hurricane season! Some years don't do much. This year is making up for that. Saul Levy >No ocean rise, BEERTbrain? lmao! > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>not getting warmer. If you were a penguin you would know better,but >>alias you only have a brain of a tick Bert Cactus Saul you having a small brain can only think Arizona. Keep it in mind it is Called GLOBAL WARMING Fay dumped 30 inches of rain in Florida,and that broke all past records. You just do not have the wit to get it go figure Bert Florida deserved it, BEERTbrain! Arizona does not. lmao! Looks like Florida will miss Gustav. Or is it the other way around? lmao! Watch out NO! Saul Levy >Cactus Saul you having a small brain can only think Arizona. Keep it in >mind it is Called GLOBAL WARMING Fay dumped 30 inches of rain in >Florida,and that broke all past records. You just do not have the wit >to get it go figure Bert Cactus Saul I predicted the path of Gustav,and this meteorologist so far beat the others. You will never give me any credit. You are a negative person. Its easy to look over the other guys shoulders. You want me to look into the future with 20X20 vision. I still give Gustav a #4,and say Look out New Orleans bert |
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