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Space Forum / Astronomy / July 2008What if (on bugs)
Years ago I use to go to sleep on hot nights listening to the crickets. I have not heard a cricket in a long time. Did the chemicals we spread in Florida kill them off? Is this another reason I see so few birds? I know Florida bees are in trouble. How are the beetles doing? If we kill them off we might not have coffee Go figure Bert > Years ago I use to go to sleep on hot nights listening to the crickets. > I have not heard a cricket in a long time. Did the chemicals we spread > in Florida kill them off? Is this another reason I see so few birds? I > know Florida bees are in trouble. How are the beetles doing? If we kill > them off we might not have coffee Go figure Bert The Guvnment imposed an entertainment tax on all nocturnal critters and also required them to possess a license to ply their musical trade ... There are still lots of bees, BEERTbrain! I've even been seeing lots of bumblebees lately. Lots of birds here too. The cacadas will no doubt return in HUGE numbers. They go through cycles. Saul Levy >Years ago I use to go to sleep on hot nights listening to the crickets. >I have not heard a cricket in a long time. Did the chemicals we spread >in Florida kill them off? Is this another reason I see so few birds? I >know Florida bees are in trouble. How are the beetles doing? If we kill >them off we might not have coffee Go figure Bert > Years ago I use to go to sleep on hot nights listening to the crickets. > I have not heard a cricket in a long time. Did the chemicals we spread > in Florida kill them off? Is this another reason I see so few birds? I > know Florida bees are in trouble. How are the beetles doing? If we kill > them off we might not have coffee Go figure Bert When i was a kid, my dad had an old friend who had retired to West Palm Beach on the east coast of FLA. His name was Duncan, and he was about 65 at the time this happened. This was back before the days of air-conditioners, and Duncan had taken to sleeping out in his screened-in FLA-room on his pool table. He said it was a lot cooler out there. There was the occasional Palmetto bug, as you probably know, it's like a large roach that flies, but Duncan didn't give them a second thought. One morning, after spending a cool night on the pool table, Duncan woke up and went to the bathroom to shave and such. As he reached up with his razor to start hackin' away at his stubble, he noticed that a rather large piece of his earlobe was gone! It had been chewed away! His doctor told him that one or more of the Palmetto bugs had dined on his earlobe while he slept! As a little boy, it caused me many sleepless nights. happy days and... starry starry nights!  SignatureIndelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth P.S.: Thank YOU for reading! P.P.S.: http://painellsworth.net Painius Now I will have sleepless nights and will count my ear lobes each morning. Go figure Bert > Painius Now I will have sleepless nights and will count my ear lobes > each morning. Go figure Bert Me too. Some memories just oughta stay buried. happy days and... starry starry nights! SignatureIndelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth P.S.: Thank YOU for reading! P.P.S.: http://painellsworth.net Muslin terrorists could be contaminating our foods. Its so easy to do. They will do it in the name of Allah. If there is an out break of heart attacks in NYC I can tell you what they put in its water. I stopped buying Fl. tomatoes. Like the airlines terrorists could have killed off our growing tomatoes. They got to expensive to eat in more ways than one Bert More Muslins, BEERTbrain! BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Saul Levy >Muslin terrorists could be contaminating our foods. Its so easy to do. >They will do it in the name of Allah. If there is an out break of heart >attacks in NYC I can tell you what they put in its water. I stopped >buying Fl. tomatoes. Like the airlines terrorists could have killed off >our growing tomatoes. They got to expensive to eat in more ways than >one Bert Cactus Saul I can't believe you are laughing when I mention Muslin terrorists. Bert “ Muslin is a type of finely-woven cotton fabric, introduced to Europe from the Middle East in the 17th century. Its first recorded use in England was in 1670. It was named for the city where Europeans first encountered it, Mosul, in what is now Iraq, but the fabric actually originated from Dhaka in what is now Bangladesh. ” -- WikiPedia muslim brotherhood sahih muslim muslim calendar muslim rajputs muslim league muslim magomayev muslim holidays non-muslim view of ali abu muslim aligarh muslim university “ The earliest cultivation of cotton discovered thus far in the Americas occurred in Mexico, some 5 thousand years ago. The indigenous species was [ the longer, stronger ] Gossypium hirsutum which is today the most widely planted species of cotton in the world, constituting about 90 percent of all production worldwide. The greatest diversity of wild cotton species is found in Mexico, followed by Australia and Africa. ” “ The Spanish, who came to Mexico in the early 1500s, found the people growing cotton and wearing clothing made of it. ” -- WikiPedia When I was a kid i used to wear Pima cotton shirts. I now live in Pima County. Yep, same Pima. Named for the Pima Indians. The cotton is long-staple Egyptian cotton. Good stuff! It's not the same species as G. hirsutum. It's G. barbadense. Look it up on Wiki. Saul Levy On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:24:43 +0200 (CEST), Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@0.Invalid> wrote: > The earliest cultivation of cotton discovered thus far in the Americas > occurred in Mexico, some 5 thousand years ago. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > found the people growing cotton and wearing clothing made of it. > -- WikiPedia I looked up “ Egyptian cotton ”, Gossypium barbadense came from Peru; and, likely, it wasn't grown in Egypt. I don't know what your “ Pima Indians ” have to do with it, if anything. Who's Helmut Abt ? how can you be sure a star is a binary ? So you have trouble reading, Jeff? lmao! I just reported what I know about the cotton grown around here. Helmut Abt is a very well-known astronomer who specializes in binary stars. He was my boss at Kitt Peak. Scatter in binary star pairs' radial velocities is higher than in single stars. Thus suggesting they actually have companion stars. Do you know how to use a search engine? Saul Levy On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:28:51 +0200 (CEST), Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@0.Invalid> wrote: >I looked up Egyptian cotton , Gossypium barbadense came from Peru; >and, likely, it wasn't grown in Egypt. >I don't know what your Pima Indians have to do with it, if anything. > >Who's Helmut Abt ? how can you be sure a star is a binary ? How is asking you a question the same thing as Googling ? “ 84 percent of citations were to papers published [ by authors that were ] between the ages of 40 and 75. Less than 6 percent of the citations refer to papers published before the age of 35 ! ” -- Helmut “ Helmut Abt has been an astronomer at the Kitt Peak National Observatory since 1959. He also has served as managing editor of the Astrophysical Journal since 1971, which is published by the American Astronomical Society and is the largest astronomical journal in the world. ” “ He did most of the field work that led to the selection of Kitx Peak as a National Optical Astronomy Observatory. He also has been president of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific, is a frequent consultant to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, and is on the editorial advisory board of Scientometrics. To date, Abt has published some 180 research papers on stellar spectroscopy, double stars, stellar rotation, and what he calls ‘ AstroSociology ’. ” -- garfield.library.upenn.edu I told you he was well-known, Jeff! lmao! He hasn't been the editor of Ap.J. since 1999. He served for 29 years. Young scientists MUST publish or perish! A worthless definition of astrosociology can be found at: http://www.astrosociology.com/iessay.html It is so circular that it sure ISN'T science. Psychology was bad enough, but this sh.t is much worse! Saul Levy On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:28:36 +0200 (CEST), Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@0.Invalid> wrote: >How is asking you a question the same thing as Googling ? > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > and what he calls AstroSociology . > -- garfield.library.upenn.edu > A worthless definition of astrosociology can be found at: > > http://www.astrosociology.com/iessay.html > > It is so circular that it sure ISN'T science. Psychology was bad > enough, but this sh.t is much worse! I'm not suer what to make of this. Either someone's been fooled into thinking he's learned anything useful in college, or he's having a good one over on the rest of us. It starts like this "The purpose of this essay is to articulate a preliminary understanding of astrosociology in terms of its definition, scope, and its relevance as a new subfield of sociology. " I never liked the phrase "in terms of" except when it was used in the context of algebra. I once asked someone who had delivered a computer to provide me a list of the computer's components. She asked me, "In terms of what?" I replied, "In terms of the computer's components." Anyway, for a laugh, I summarize the article: Introduction No one has ever heard of astrosociology. This web site is about astrosociology. We want people to believe that astrosociology exists. Astrosociology is important and we must define it. Definition Astrosociology is about how astronomers do astronomy, but astrosociology is not about how astronomers do astronomy. The word "astrosociology" is like the word "astrobiology". The word "astrosociology" is simple, so we will call astrosociology astrosociology. We didn't invent the word "astrosociology". "Astrosociology" means studying how astrosociology affects society. Astrosociology is about everything. Astrosociology is a new science. Figure One: A lot of things in society interact, but never at the same time. Astrosociology only happens in the USA. Science fiction is not part of astrosociology. Progress goes from left to right. Some things in society are astrosocial and other things are not. Some things in society are both. But society is not divided into astrosocial and non-astrosocial things. Turd-world countries don't have astrosociology. Astrosociology is complicated. Making astrosociology complicated makes it easier to understand. There is no theory of Astrosociology. We're not even sure what Astrosociology is. Astrosociology is complicated. Nobody is studying astrosociology. Astrosociology affects people. Astrosociology affects other people. Other people affect astrosociology. Other people affect other things. Astrosociologists will study rocket scientists. Astrosociology is complicated. Astrosociology affects people and people affect astrosociology. Astrosociology affects people and people affect astrosociology. Conclusion Astrosociology studies complicated sociological stuff. Astrosociology is complicated. There's more to Astrosociology. SignatureTimberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com "When you post sewage, don't blame others for emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. How many billions of people, throughout the ages, have been convince that this or that “ creation theory ” ( e.g. λ-CDM, Intelligent Design and / or Genesis ) was a hard fact supported by All the “ empirical ” evidence ? That's AstroSociology. I have to admit that I don't know what astrosociology actually is, Jeff. lmao! Something to do with astronomy and it's effects on people. Saul Levy On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:03:29 +0200 (CEST), Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@0.Invalid> wrote: >How many billions of people, throughout the ages, >have been convince that this or that creation theory >( e.g. ?-CDM, Intelligent Design and / or Genesis ) >was a hard fact supported by All the empirical evidence ? > >That's AstroSociology. You got it EXACTLY RIGHT, Timberwoof! lmao! Amazing ain't it? I haven't talked to Helmut Abt about this subject, but I bet he knows what it is he is studying! Too bad the sociologists have f.cked up another subject! This is how the soft "sciences" work. A hard scientist would laugh at them. Saul Levy >> A worthless definition of astrosociology can be found at: >> [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >Astrosociology is complicated. >There's more to Astrosociology. > >> A worthless definition of astrosociology can be found at: > >> [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > >Astrosociology is complicated. > >There's more to Astrosociology. > You got it EXACTLY RIGHT, Timberwoof! lmao! > > Amazing ain't it? I haven't talked to Helmut Abt about this subject, > but I bet he knows what it is he is studying! Too bad the > sociologists have f.cked up another subject! This is how the soft > "sciences" work. A hard scientist would laugh at them. I realized another thing about Astrosociology after I posted that: the author makes no difference between astronomers and rocket scientists. They're just lumped together in the astrosocial non-division. I'm surprised that he excluded science fiction (fans? movies? writers?) from the astrosocial non-division. A lot of science fiction is directly about the stars and the technology needed to get there; plenty of people have become astronomers and rocket scientists as a result of an early interest in science fiction. The guy does not know what he's writing about. SignatureTimberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com "When you post sewage, don't blame others for emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. I thought that was painfully obvious, Timberwoof! lmao! Saul Levy >I realized another thing about Astrosociology after I posted that: the >author makes no difference between astronomers and rocket scientists. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >interest in science fiction. The guy does not know what he's writing >about. > I don't know what your “ Pima Indians ” have to do with it, if anything. FWIW, in that immortal photo of U.S. Marines raising the Flag on Iwo Jima, one of them is Pfc. Ira Hayes, a Pima Indian from Arizona. http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ira+hayes+iwo+jima&fr=fptb--s&toggle=1&cop=mss& ei=UTF-8 That was a BEERTbrain typo, Jeff. And he's still doing it! lmao! Saul Levy On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:02:49 +0200 (CEST), Jeff?Relf <Jeff_Relf@0.Invalid> wrote: > Muslin is a type of finely-woven cotton fabric, > introduced to Europe from the Middle East in the 17th century. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >muslim rajputs muslim league muslim magomayev muslim holidays >non-muslim view of ali abu muslim aligarh muslim university You mean STILL laughing, BEERTbrain! lmao! You even woke Jeff up about it! Saul Levy >Cactus Saul I can't believe you are laughing when I mention Muslin >terrorists. Bert Cactus Saul I see Jeff smoking a short wet cigar as he reads my posts Bert I'm smoking thin, dry rollies, lighting 'em with my zippo. Better to smoke sun-dried grass than have it burn down houses. ( FYI, a “ rollie ” is a hand-rolled cig ) Too bad people are so allergic to goose droppings, geese ( or sheep ) would get rid of the dangerous grass. I can't believe you're there, all alone, popping viagra. Do you cut your own hair ? I recently buzzed off my longish gray hair / beard. Some times My Fl. barber died last year. Men never change barbers. My barber when I lived in Ma. his son was Len Neumoy (check spelling) Bert I cut my own when I have scissors. 3 clips, blunt at the edges. I just changed barbers in May, BEERTbrain! lmao! You're letting your hair grow now? Seems you're WRONG again. Saul Levy >Some times My Fl. barber died last year. Men never change barbers. My >barber when I lived in Ma. his son was Len Neumoy (check spelling) >Bert Cactus Saul Yes letting my hair grow long. Old people of the same weight and height start looking more and more alike. Im starting to look like Paul Newman. I have more hair,and he has more bucks. MSP made that possible Bert He's better looking too, isn't he, BEERTbrain? lmao! Saul Levy >Cactus Saul Yes letting my hair grow long. Old people of the same >weight and height start looking more and more alike. Im starting to look >like Paul Newman. I have more hair,and he has more bucks. MSP made >that possible Bert Cactus Saul Yes he is better looking than me even if he is a little older. Money can change your looks in one small operation. My big problem Saul is Im going deaf,and can not hear my children on the phone. Reality is I have a hard time hearing my thinking Go figure Bert You really have a problem then, BEERTbrain! lmao! I have tinnitus, but can still hear myself THINK! lmao! Saul Levy >Cactus Saul Yes he is better looking than me even if he is a little >older. Money can change your looks in one small operation. My big >problem Saul is Im going deaf,and can not hear my children on the phone. >Reality is I have a hard time hearing my thinking Go figure Bert Cactus Saul I dont have ringing in my head. I just think my ear drum is not doing a good job of vibrating. It got old. The doctor said it is not wax,and I will need a hearing aid. Aid fits well with getting old. It starts with roll aids etc Bert I had my wax removed, BEERTbrain! Didn't help the tinnitus any. lmao! Still don't need Rolaids nor hearing aids. You really are OLD! Saul Levy >Cactus Saul I dont have ringing in my head. I just think my ear drum is >not doing a good job of vibrating. It got old. The doctor said it is not >wax,and I will need a hearing aid. Aid fits well with getting old. It >starts with roll aids etc Bert The cockroach goes back 250 million years and it looks the same. Don;t bugs evolve over time? Were they the first Earth aliens? This just jumped in. I can relate that to the Horseshoe crab they are not touched by time,and we all know about sharks Bert > The cockroach goes back 250 million years and it looks the same. Don;t > bugs evolve over time? Were they the first Earth aliens? This just > jumped in. I can relate that to the Horseshoe crab they are not touched > by time,and we all know about sharks Bert Apparently only the most faith-based species of humans evolved, and somehow did so primarily within the last few million years, with 99% of our intelligent evolution taking place since the last ice-age this planet w/moon is ever going to see, although Ed Conrad has a fossilized man that's well certified as being old as coal, that kinda looks as though relatively modern by fossil standards. It's not that local evolution doesn't happen, because our own applied intelligent design proves that genetic code manipulations will cause physiological morphing into the good or bad kinds of revisions in the given species of life. All that's necessary for mother nature is billions of spare years with most everything of random happenstance going along in a mostly positive/constructive manner. Perhaps Earth is nearly half as old as the 100 billion year age of our expanding universe, or perhaps the Sirius B solar system prior to it going red giant and losing 5+ solar mass (one of those solar masses going into Sirius A) is where the majority of our evolved human species came from. Thus far we have only accounted for the 14,000 some odd species of ants, 16,000 some odd species of bees and perhaps countless numbers of the other mostly exoskeleton species like your Moe, that were as you say here and fully established as is for those hundreds of millions of years prior to the imported species of frail humans ever transpired. Sadly, there's no physiological connection to the terrestrial oceans of primordial muck as having given birth to the origin of the supposedly intelligent human species, at least not as originating of this recently evolved Earth. Besides, I rather like being evolved from another star/solar system that had the good notions and best of intention on behalf of terraforming other nearby worlds within a nearby solar system like ours. - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You are a total JOKE, BradBoi! lmfjao! Saul Levy >> The cockroach goes back 250 million years and it looks the same. Don;t >> bugs evolve over time? Were they the first Earth aliens? This just [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > Muslin terrorists could be contaminating our foods. Its so easy to do. > They will do it in the name of Allah. If there is an out break of heart > attacks in NYC I can tell you what they put in its water. I stopped > buying Fl. tomatoes. Like the airlines terrorists could have killed off > our growing tomatoes. They got to expensive to eat in more ways than > one Bert Those "Muslin terrorists" seem to be acting exactly like your Republican Mafia of pretend-Atheists, driving up the cost of most everything and stuffing their offshore bank accounts with our hard earned loot. - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth |
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